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Black features one of the best arms from the Yankees’ 2012 draft class, and he jumped to high Class A at the outset of the 2013 season. He sits 93-95 mph with sink and can reach 100 in short outings, though with below-average control he left the Florida State League ranked second in both strikeouts (88) and walks (45). Black has solid secondary weapons in a changeup and mid-80s slider, but given his wildness and size (he’s listed at 5-foot-11), his best path to the big leagues may be in the bullpen.
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Honestly, I'm looking forward to what our bullpen could look like in a few years.

 

I'm picturing the 2015+ dynasty Cubs as having insane power, a quintet of useful but not amazing starting pitchers every year, and a lights-out bullpen made up of 95+ fastballs.

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Honestly, I'm looking forward to what our bullpen could look like in a few years.

 

I'm picturing the 2015+ dynasty Cubs as having insane power, a quintet of useful but not amazing starting pitchers every year, and a lights-out bullpen made up of 95+ fastballs.

 

 

Yeah...except I could see this volume approach to pitching they've taken yielding a SP or two that is more than just "useful." I don't know who and it doesn't really matter.

 

And yep, there are definitely lots of potential power bullpen arms.

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I still don't understand the deal. We have little to plug into left field, and are hurting for right handed hitting. We got a very low level prospect and paid most of his salary.

We are basically paying Soriano to play for the Yankees in exchange for an A ball pitcher who might be a reliever, struggles with command.

We actually got a better deal for Hairston, and we aren't paying him. To me that doesn't make sense.

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I still don't understand the deal. We have little to plug into left field, and are hurting for right handed hitting. We got a very low level prospect and paid most of his salary.

We are basically paying Soriano to play for the Yankees in exchange for an A ball pitcher who might be a reliever, struggles with command.

We actually got a better deal for Hairston, and we aren't paying him. To me that doesn't make sense.

 

We are basically paying Soriano a lot less to play for the Yankees than we'd be paying him to play for us.

We open LF for other younger and more long-term interesting guys, whether Lake or somebody we pick up this winter.

And we're getting a good-armed prospect.

 

Good armed prospect, a bunch of free millions, and some opportunity to improve in LF this winter. Win-win-win.

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I still don't understand the deal. We have little to plug into left field, and are hurting for right handed hitting. We got a very low level prospect and paid most of his salary.

We are basically paying Soriano to play for the Yankees in exchange for an A ball pitcher who might be a reliever, struggles with command.

We actually got a better deal for Hairston, and we aren't paying him. To me that doesn't make sense.

 

We are basically paying Soriano a lot less to play for the Yankees than we'd be paying him to play for us.

We open LF for other younger and more long-term interesting guys, whether Lake or somebody we pick up this winter.

And we're getting a good-armed prospect.

 

Good armed prospect, a bunch of free millions, and some opportunity to improve in LF this winter. Win-win-win.

 

That and Soriano's overall production this year and next isn't difficult to replace.

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I still don't understand the deal. We have little to plug into left field, and are hurting for right handed hitting. We got a very low level prospect and paid most of his salary.

We are basically paying Soriano to play for the Yankees in exchange for an A ball pitcher who might be a reliever, struggles with command.

We actually got a better deal for Hairston, and we aren't paying him. To me that doesn't make sense.

 

The Cubs can find another Soriano type player in the offseason to play in LF. Average players there aren't that hard to find. The Cubs have a few of them on their roster right now. The 7 million the Yankees gave the Cubs should be plenty to find that player if the Cubs are interested in looking.

 

Soriano's trade value in the offseason would have been likely nil for that exact reason. The Yankees were willing to trade since they need help now, and there is little on the market at this point of the season.

 

Basically the Cubs are taking on a tiny amount of risk (somehow striking out on all of the LF options) in exchange for a prospect. Plus they've opened up more playing time for the rest of this season for other players they may want to try out. It's a good gamble to take.

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I know Soriano wasn't the most perfect player, but looking back at his power numbers I respect what he accomplished without the use of PEDs.
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I still don't understand the deal. We have little to plug into left field, and are hurting for right handed hitting. We got a very low level prospect and paid most of his salary.

We are basically paying Soriano to play for the Yankees in exchange for an A ball pitcher who might be a reliever, struggles with command.

We actually got a better deal for Hairston, and we aren't paying him. To me that doesn't make sense.

 

black is not a "very low level" prospect, and 7 million dollars is significant.

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I know Soriano wasn't the most perfect player, but looking back at his power numbers I respect what he accomplished without the use of PEDs.

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What don't you understand? I'm basically just saying with all this PED stuff out right now with Braun and A-Rod I appreciate Soriano more for the numbers he put up in Chicago. Sure, he wasn't the best hitter but at least he did it honestly.

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I know Soriano wasn't the most perfect player, but looking back at his power numbers I respect what he accomplished without the use of PEDs.

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What don't you understand? I'm basically just saying with all this PED stuff out right now with Braun and A-Rod I appreciate Soriano more for the numbers he put up in Chicago. Sure, he wasn't the best hitter but at least he did it honestly.

 

Pretty sure he doesn't understand how you know Soriano never took PEDs for a fact.

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I know Soriano wasn't the most perfect player, but looking back at his power numbers I respect what he accomplished without the use of PEDs.

 

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The deal that brought Alfonso Soriano back to the Yankees was consummated over the objections of GM Brian Cashman, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post. "I would say we are in a desperate time," said Cashman. "Ownership wants to go for it. I didn't want to give up a young arm." The club dealt young righty Corey Black (and took on salary) to add the 37-year-old Soriano.
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That would absolutely suck having an owner who feels the need to have their hands in everything. Let the man do his job.
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Jason Parks[/url]"]He's a short RHP with a high-effort delivery and a very good FB. I've seen him work 95-plus with ease, showing good late life on the ball. It's a 7 pitch. He's a reliever all the way. I've seen him drop a decent CH before, and I know he had both a CB and SL. He could be a seventh-inning type, but it's a limited ceiling.

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