College Basketball 2013-2014

[fiver]

Could Lyle still choose iu after jbj committing? Would like to trade a guard for a big.

[Exile on Waveland]

Could Lyle still choose iu after jbj committing? Would like to trade a guard for a big.

 

I would have preferred a big man in this class too--though guards were actually the biggest need. Blackmon, Jr., and Lyle are close--when Blackmon, Jr., tore his ACL, Lyle dyed the front of this hair grey to honor Blackmon, Jr.--and the rumor mill is that this will influence Lyle. They are much different players and a good duo. We will see . . . Lyle isn't one that makes prediction easy . . .

[SouthSideRyan]

Looks like Devin Robinson is about to choose Florida. What the hell happened to IUs 2014 class?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkr0A9633Q

 

Yeah, this disastrous class of a 5-star (Rivals No. 23), a 4-star (No. 42), and an unranked player (trust in Crean??). And very possibly leading for another 5-star (No. 22).

 

Yes, very much implosion-like.

 

It was an Indiana fan that posed the question. I love how sensitive you guys get.

[rawaction]

Yeah, would like a big in every class. But IU should bring back all of the guys who will rotate in at the 4-5 (Vonleh, Perea, [Hollowell, Williams- more 3's playing the 4] Fischer). Only have 3 scholarship players listed guards on the roster, one of them has been injured and Evan Gordon is only on campus for a year.

 

Solid class if Lyle commits. Could really use his ability to shoot the ball.

[fiver]

Looks like Devin Robinson is about to choose Florida. What the hell happened to IUs 2014 class?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkr0A9633Q

 

Yeah, this disastrous class of a 5-star (Rivals No. 23), a 4-star (No. 42), and an unranked player (trust in Crean??). And very possibly leading for another 5-star (No. 22).

 

Yes, very much implosion-like.

 

It was an Indiana fan that posed the question. I love how sensitive you guys get.

 

Yeah, I was definitely bummed about Robinson, thought there was zero chance jbj was coming back into the fold, and hadn't yet seen any momentum building with Lyle. It was a dark day and a half. I retract my original question and am happy again.

[Exile on Waveland]

Looks like Devin Robinson is about to choose Florida. What the hell happened to IUs 2014 class?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkr0A9633Q

 

Yeah, this disastrous class of a 5-star (Rivals No. 23), a 4-star (No. 42), and an unranked player (trust in Crean??). And very possibly leading for another 5-star (No. 22).

 

Yes, very much implosion-like.

 

It was an Indiana fan that posed the question. I love how sensitive you guys get.

 

Nah, just enjoy pointing out how reactionary you guys get.

 

Also forget fiver is an IU fan, thought he liked Auburn too?

[Exile on Waveland]

Yeah, would like a big in every class. But IU should bring back all of the guys who will rotate in at the 4-5 (Vonleh, Perea, [Hollowell, Williams- more 3's playing the 4] Fischer). Only have 3 scholarship players listed guards on the roster, one of them has been injured and Evan Gordon is only on campus for a year.

 

Solid class if Lyle commits. Could really use his ability to shoot the ball.

 

Right, IU really needed guards. It had to be the first priority. I also agree that every class should, preferably, include a big man. And while IU should return all their interior players, they are all unproven (and it would be nice to have some Big Ten "toughness" inside). This remains a concern.

 

Shooters were also needed and I think that's been answered. I wouldn't really consider Lyle to specifically be an answer to that though. He is a creator first and foremost, one with an ability to shoot. Streaky would be apt. I see Rivals labels his shooting as "outstanding" but that over sells things. Blackmon, Jr., is the shooter; Lyle the creator. Lyle is the more talented player, but also the one with more question marks.

Edited November 1, 2013 by Exile on Waveland

[hawkeyecub]

Booker commits to UK, UK with the #3 recruiting class, Blackmon looks like he will be heading back to IU, will announce tonight.

‏@nickbaumgardner Kentucky's ability to simply call a kid 3 months before a decision and wipe out years of recruiting is incredible.

 

pretty much, what a drag

 

Tyler Ulis. Said all along how important it was that Iowa believed in him early, built the relationship, etc. over 2+ years. Then he hears from Kentucky for the first time in like June, gets offered mid-summer and commits to them within a couple of months.

[fiver]

 

 

Also forget fiver is an IU fan, thought he liked Auburn too?

 

Yeah, I didn't go to school at IU. My parents are from Indiana, my father (also aunt and a couple of cousins) went to IU, and had me watching IU basketball from a young age. I certainly don't have the same type of claim that you, raw, and other alums have but have been a fan for over 30 years.

 

I am an AU alum.

 

I've compartmentalized my head such that I can enjoy college football and basketball most seasons.

[XZero771679666304]

I'm always fascinated by how people's fan affiliations are formed.

 

I am a rabid Illinois hoops fan, and have been since I was a kid. I didn't attend UI, but my father did and that's how I was indoctrinated. The schools that I have attended and received degrees from barely register anything more than a passive interest sports wise. I am always curious about how a person can be raised a huge fan of a school/team, but then replace that allegiance with another, even if it ends up being their alma mater.

 

And I certainly don't think that being an alum automatically makes someone's fanhood more legitimate.

 

Now if a person is a bandwagoner, that's a whole other thing altogether. I had an acquaintance who was all about the University of Michigan, despite the fact that he didn't go there, didn't know anyone who went there, never lived in or around the state of Michigan or had any connection to the university or the town. He just decided he was a Michigan fan while the Fab Five were there. I can't stand that guy.

[ConstableRabbit]

Being an alumnus and passionate fan doesn't legitimize one's fandom, but there's a personal connection I have with my alma mater that can't be replaced by any other team.

 

The highs are higher and the lows are lower. The Cubs are my number one team. It'd be extremely difficult, but if I really wanted to, I could give up on them. I could never, ever give up on my school. It's personal.

[XZero771679666304]

Being an alumnus and passionate fan doesn't legitimize one's fandom, but there's a personal connection I have with my alma mater that can't be replaced by any other team.

 

The highs are higher and the lows are lower. The Cubs are my number one team. It'd be extremely difficult, but if I really wanted to, I could give up on them. I could never, ever give up on my school. It's personal.

 

I get what you're saying. But my allegiance to the Illini was cemented long before I ever set foot on a campus as a student. There was no way I could just switch (of course that is pretty much due to the fact that my father and many relatives were/are UI alums, and conditioned me to be that way). The Cubs and Illini are in my blood, there's no undoing that for me.

 

And what about people who get an undergraduate degree from one school and a graduate degree from another? Does that confuse allegiances at all?

[Exile on Waveland]

 

 

Also forget fiver is an IU fan, thought he liked Auburn too?

 

Yeah, I didn't go to school at IU. My parents are from Indiana, my father (also aunt and a couple of cousins) went to IU, and had me watching IU basketball from a young age. I certainly don't have the same type of claim that you, raw, and other alums have but have been a fan for over 30 years.

I am an AU alum.

 

I've compartmentalized my head such that I can enjoy college football and basketball most seasons.

 

Oh, I certainly did not mean to imply anything like that. I don't worry about "claims" to rooting for schools. Even if I did, your parents and thirty-plus years of fandom surely would stake a claim.

 

I just, for whatever reason, relate you with Auburn. Perhaps you posted more, at least initially, in the football thread, I don't know.

[ConstableRabbit]

Being an alumnus and passionate fan doesn't legitimize one's fandom, but there's a personal connection I have with my alma mater that can't be replaced by any other team.

 

The highs are higher and the lows are lower. The Cubs are my number one team. It'd be extremely difficult, but if I really wanted to, I could give up on them. I could never, ever give up on my school. It's personal.

 

I get what you're saying. But my allegiance to the Illini was cemented long before I ever set foot on a campus as a student. There was no way I could just switch (of course that is pretty much due to the fact that my father and many relatives were/are UI alums, and conditioned me to be that way). The Cubs and Illini are in my blood, there's no undoing that for me.

 

And what about people who get an undergraduate degree from one school and a graduate degree from another? Does that confuse allegiances at all?

I don't have a grad degree but from what I've heard from friends, your undergrad is your first love, unless it doesn't really have a legitimate athletic program.

[Exile on Waveland]

Being an alumnus and passionate fan doesn't legitimize one's fandom, but there's a personal connection I have with my alma mater that can't be replaced by any other team.

 

The highs are higher and the lows are lower. The Cubs are my number one team. It'd be extremely difficult, but if I really wanted to, I could give up on them. I could never, ever give up on my school. It's personal.

 

I get what you're saying. But my allegiance to the Illini was cemented long before I ever set foot on a campus as a student. There was no way I could just switch (of course that is pretty much due to the fact that my father and many relatives were/are UI alums, and conditioned me to be that way). The Cubs and Illini are in my blood, there's no undoing that for me.

 

And what about people who get an undergraduate degree from one school and a graduate degree from another? Does that confuse allegiances at all?

I don't have a grad degree but from what I've heard from friends, your undergrad is your first love, unless it doesn't really have a legitimate athletic program.

 

That is how everyone I know thinks. Grad school friends have adopted IU as a secondary team to root for; while one good friend that went to a small school without a legitimate athletic program has adopted IU fully. I just made it easy on myself and always attended IU.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Being an alumnus and passionate fan doesn't legitimize one's fandom, but there's a personal connection I have with my alma mater that can't be replaced by any other team.

 

The highs are higher and the lows are lower. The Cubs are my number one team. It'd be extremely difficult, but if I really wanted to, I could give up on them. I could never, ever give up on my school. It's personal.

 

I get what you're saying. But my allegiance to the Illini was cemented long before I ever set foot on a campus as a student. There was no way I could just switch (of course that is pretty much due to the fact that my father and many relatives were/are UI alums, and conditioned me to be that way). The Cubs and Illini are in my blood, there's no undoing that for me.

 

And what about people who get an undergraduate degree from one school and a graduate degree from another? Does that confuse allegiances at all?

I don't have a grad degree but from what I've heard from friends, your undergrad is your first love, unless it doesn't really have a legitimate athletic program.

 

 

This, exactly. Undergrad is the number 1, and then grad school is a passive interest. Kinda like cheering for an AL team, like the Royals for instance.

[Ryno12]

I was born and raised a Hawkeye. Went to UNI for undergrad, and Iowa for law school. Iowa will always be #1 for me and I root for them when they play UNI. However, I root for UNI in everything else. Even had I not attended Iowa, I would be the same way, though.

[Splendid Splinter]

I root for both Purdue (born/raised 40 mins away, bachelor degree, now living there) and Arkansas (bachelor degree in Architecture after I went to Purdue). I pay attention to Purdue more since I live like 2 miles from campus, but if I live somewhere else, it would probably be Arkansas then Purdue.

 

Might be because I always had an interest in Arkansas ever since the Corliss Williamson days and knew they had an Architecture program while Purdue didn't.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Trevon Bluiett, after de-committing from Alfaud, commits to Xavier.

 

The revamped Big East has recruited really well, with the most top 150 recruits for 2014 of any conference other than the 14 school ACC. Starting to think the basketball-only model may work just fine.

[SouthSideRyan]

Wow, Seton Hall and Providence??

[pitchcs]

1) Illinois basketball (Dad grew up outside Champaign & Grandpa went there)

 

2) Illinois Wesleyan basketball (My Undergrad; A superb D3 program; Good conference, fun to keep up with; Would root for them over UI but that's not realistic so they are #2)

 

3) Loyola basketball (My Graduate school; Sucked since like the 60's)

 

4) Michigan State (Favorite non-Illinois Big Ten school; My Aunt & Uncle own book stores on campus)

 

5) Rest of Big Ten (Always root for B10 over other conferences, sometimes hard with Indiana, Iowa & Michigan)

[Guest]

I bet north central's college football team could give the illini a run.

[bukie]

With Basketball Prospectus pretty much dissolving this past offseason (thanks to ESPN hiring pretty much everyone on the staff), John Gasaway started his own hoops blog here.

[UMFan83]

1. Michigan - No affiliation, wear the Walmart Wolverine tag with pride. Started following them in 1997 (never followed Fab 5), watched them go from #4 in the country to out of the NCAA tourney with a late season collapse. Next year they won the inaugural BTT and lost to UCLA as a 3 seed in the second round, then waited until 2009 for another trip to the tourney. Several great starts and late season collapses, the bubble always burst. For some reason I kept watching and following. I have no idea why I like them more than my undergrad, other than that DePaul's team blows and has blown for awhile.

 

2. DePaul - this is a close #2. Went to Blue Demons games in the early 90's as a kid. Always had a thing for them. The year before I transferred to DePaul I really enjoyed their last tourney appearance, Delonte Holland, Drake Diener and co went on a late season run and made the tourney, beat Dayton in 2OT in the 1st round before losing to eventual champs UConn. Went to a lot of games during my 3 years there...this was the period just before the bottom fell out of the program, still in Conference USA, Dave Leitao was still there, and only making the NIT was still a disappointment. Still go to 1-2 games a year.

 

3. Dayton - My wife's team, I started following them because its pretty much the only team she shows any passion for.

 

4. Northwestern - Always followed them from afar hoping they'd make the tourney one of these years....

 

5. Illinois - Slightly ahead of....

 

6. The Big Ten Field minus MSU and OSU

[pitchcs]

I bet north central's college football team could give the illini a run.

 

To anyone who thinks this was supposed to be funny, it's only funny cause it's true.