Re: Darvish

[NonProfitCow]

Goldstein in saying there is a high bid and Nippon Ham knows the dollar amount but does not know the team. No bidding team knows if they've won or lost. The most Goldstein is getting from his sources is that they "feel their bid is competitive."

 

Who is they?

He didn't specify which teams, but I assume that's what all his random MLB team sources are saying.

[davearm2]

Does anyone know why Nippon Ham is sitting on this?

[UMFan83]

Does anyone know why Nippon Ham is sitting on this?

 

Lingering WWII resentment?

[Brett]

Does anyone know why Nippon Ham is sitting on this?

 

Lingering WWII resentment?

 

:shock:

 

=D>

[98navigator]

SI.com

 

 

Contrary to published reports, the top sealed bid submitted for star Japanese pitcher Yu Darvish on Wednesday was the highest in the history of the posting process, exceeding the record $51.1 million fee that the Boston Red Sox paid the Seibu Lions for the rights to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka in 2006, according to Japanese league officials.

[Guest]

Hopefully the report about the Blue Jays bid being between 40M and 50M was correct.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

SI.com

 

 

Contrary to published reports, the top sealed bid submitted for star Japanese pitcher Yu Darvish on Wednesday was the highest in the history of the posting process, exceeding the record $51.1 million fee that the Boston Red Sox paid the Seibu Lions for the rights to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka in 2006, according to Japanese league officials.

 

I will beg for your forgiveness Theo if you made this happen. :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg:

[JockJones]

Well, that is kinda exciting.

[98navigator]

SI.com

 

 

Contrary to published reports, the top sealed bid submitted for star Japanese pitcher Yu Darvish on Wednesday was the highest in the history of the posting process, exceeding the record $51.1 million fee that the Boston Red Sox paid the Seibu Lions for the rights to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka in 2006, according to Japanese league officials.

 

I will beg for your forgiveness Theo if you made this happen. :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg:

 

 

Yeah, I really want the Cubs to win this bid even though it's a total risk. Theo's track record shows him to be both stealthy and aggressive when he wants something. I just hope he really wanted Darvish.

[Little Slide Rooter]

A rotation of Darvish, Garza, Dempster, Z, and Maholm would be pretty sweet. Now if we could just build one of those West coast anti hitter ballparks by opening day we'll be the division favs.

[ctcf]

Part of me doesn't want the Cubs to win at that kind of a cost.

[Sammy Sofa]

All of me wants the Cubs to win at that kind of cost.

[JockJones]

People are looking at Darvish as better than Dice-K, right? I know Darvish is a year younger, has a better build, and had better numbers in Japan.

 

I think the fact that Theo put up $51.5 mil for Dice-K shows that he isn't afraid to take a big chance on these international guys. If he got the OK from Tom, I could see him placing a $53-55 million bid, thinking that he was getting a better return than he got with Dice-K.

[Epsteenie]

If the report about 40-50 million for the Blue Jays was accurate I think the Yankees are going to get him. But I hope I'm wrong.

[Conky]

This has Yankees written all over it, unfortunately. They are in a year where they want to acquire pitching. Probably why they let Wilson go by the board. Hope Theo got it done, but the Yanks have this kinda money to throw around. Not sure the Cubs do. Not yet.

[Rob]

The Yankees supposedly only made a "modest" bid. And most people comparing notes seem to be relatively confident the Blue Jays outbid them. I'm not sure why you would be so certain the Yankees won the bid.

[Epsteenie]

The Yankees supposedly only made a "modest" bid. And most people comparing notes seem to be relatively confident the Blue Jays outbid them. I'm not sure why you would be so certain the Yankees won the bid.

 

I heard that report, but I also heard another report that the Yankees actually made a substantial offer. Can't remember who said it though.

[davearm2]

I don't think we know anything more than the Blue Jays made a big bid.

[Conky]

No one is saying anything with certainty. But a new record bid certainly smacks Yankees. As stated, they are in pitching acquisition mode and did not go all in on Wilson. Everyone figured Matsuzaka would drive the posting price lower on Darvish. I could easily see the Yankees deciding that this was their guy and guaranteeing it by beating the Daisuke bid.

 

As an aside, it's also hard to imagine Theo eager to go down that road again or willing/ able to convince Ricketts to beat the Matsuzaka bid in order to land Darvish. Hope he did, but all signs do not favor the Cubs, imho.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The Yankees supposedly only made a "modest" bid. And most people comparing notes seem to be relatively confident the Blue Jays outbid them. I'm not sure why you would be so certain the Yankees won the bid.

 

I heard that report, but I also heard another report that the Yankees actually made a substantial offer. Can't remember who said it though.

 

It really is the Yankees main need and I could see them going all in on him like that. Beyond CC, their rotation is filled with uncertainty.

 

It wouldnt surprise me if they hadn't initially planned on a large bid or even a bid at all but when they learned how much teams were asking in return for front end starters like Garza, Danks, and Gonzalez they just said [expletive] let's just do what we do best and douse the problem with a bucket of money.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

People are looking at Darvish as better than Dice-K, right? I know Darvish is a year younger, has a better build, and had better numbers in Japan.

I think the fact that Theo put up $51.5 mil for Dice-K shows that he isn't afraid to take a big chance on these international guys. If he got the OK from Tom, I could see him placing a $53-55 million bid, thinking that he was getting a better return than he got with Dice-K.

Yes, for pretty much all of the reasons plus the fact that per a Fangraphs article comparing Darvish and Dice-K, Darvish is more of a power pitcher with a higher avg velocity on his FB. Also, Darvish's pitch counts in Japan have been far less, well, egregious than Dice K's were.

 

Basically, Darvish may not be a Cy Young winner over here, but he's a better prospect with more upside than Dice-K did by literally every conceivable measure.

[PrimeTime]

The Cubs' bid was "very low" and they have no illusions of winning the rights to negotiate with Darvish, a source tells Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.

[CUBZ99]

Pretty depressing if true. The article also goes on to say that the he thinks the Cubs are in full rebuilding mode and won't make a move for a big name free agent this off season.

 

It will be interesting to see after the Darvish/Fielder dust settles which sources are actually more accurate, Theo's old Sox pals, or the reporters actually paid to cover the Cubs.

Edited December 18, 2011 by CUBZ99

[dew1679666265]

The Cubs' bid was "very low" and they have no illusions of winning the rights to negotiate with Darvish, a source tells Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.

 

I could well be wrong, but wasn't Cafardo big on reporting crazy stuff about Theo's compensation? As in, the Red Sox were in the ideal position and the Cubs were giving up significant pieces for Theo? I tend to think Cafardo doesn't have strong sources in Chicago.

[Tyrant]

The Cubs' bid was "very low" and they have no illusions of winning the rights to negotiate with Darvish, a source tells Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.

 

Dumb report. Why would they bother bidding if they didn't think they might win? Did Theo think that maybe he could bid $5 million and all of the other teams might forget to submit anything?

 

I think Cafardo is the guy who said the other day that the Cubs aren't players for Fielder either. Sounds more like he has an agenda.