If the Cubs were sellers right now

[dew1679666265]

I'll be stunned if Wood is traded.

 

Yeah, it's probably irrelevant whether or not Wood has a NTC since I can't imagine Hendry (or really most any GM) trading him after the mega discount he gave us in the offseason. I'm pretty sure he's here to stay and that's not really that bad a thing - a veteran reliever probably doesn't net us all that much anyway.

[davell]

Exactly. Wood as a Cub is a good thing, especially with the discount involved. Plus, with his history and all, I'm hoping he's a positive influence on Cashner.

[XZero771679666304]

I'll be stunned if Wood is traded.

 

Yeah, it's probably irrelevant whether or not Wood has a NTC since I can't imagine Hendry (or really most any GM) trading him after the mega discount he gave us in the offseason. I'm pretty sure he's here to stay and that's not really that bad a thing - a veteran reliever probably doesn't net us all that much anyway.

 

Stunned is too tame a word for the surprise I'd feel if Wood was traded. It seems pretty implicit that he came back to finish his career and that a future trade isn't even a consideration

 

And even if Wood degrades into a mop up guy I wouldn't mind having him around.

[dew1679666265]

I'll be stunned if Wood is traded.

 

Yeah, it's probably irrelevant whether or not Wood has a NTC since I can't imagine Hendry (or really most any GM) trading him after the mega discount he gave us in the offseason. I'm pretty sure he's here to stay and that's not really that bad a thing - a veteran reliever probably doesn't net us all that much anyway.

 

Stunned is too tame a word for the surprise I'd feel if Wood was traded. It seems pretty implicit that he came back to finish his career and that a future trade isn't even a consideration

 

And even if Wood degrades into a mop up guy I wouldn't mind having him around.

 

If he and his $1.5 mil contract is the worst deal we have in the bullpen, we'll be doing pretty well. Even if he does degrade into a mop-up guy, he won't be making enough to really matter that much - as long as we don't have a bunch of other guys being overpaid.

[hardcorecubfan]

Nobody has said it but Kerry Wood, come late July, to a contender that is desperate for a closer/set up man, because their man is on the DL.

[SouthSideRyan]

Nobody has said it but Kerry Wood, come late July, to a contender that is desperate for a closer/set up man, because their man is on the DL.

 

Yeah, why is everyone so afraid to bring up Kerry as a possibility?

[Banedon]

Nobody has said it but Kerry Wood, come late July, to a contender that is desperate for a closer/set up man, because their man is on the DL.

 

Did you read the thread at all before you posted?

[abuck1220]

Nobody has said it but Kerry Wood, come late July, to a contender that is desperate for a closer/set up man, because their man is on the DL.

 

what is this gibberish.

[biittner77]

If you're Kerry Wood I think you write your own ticket here. He signed at bargain basement because he wanted to move back to Chicago. Does that override his desire to get a ring? One thing about Hendry, his track record shows that he values what the players think of him more than anything else. So he wouldn't trade Wood without asking him first.

[Yeti]

If you're Kerry Wood I think you write your own ticket here. He signed at bargain basement because he wanted to move back to Chicago. Does that override his desire to get a ring? One thing about Hendry, his track record shows that he values what the players think of him more than anything else. So he wouldn't trade Wood without asking him first.

i've always thought that Kerry signed low with us for this very purpose...also thinking that he could always re-sign with us after and maybe net us a prospect in the meantime...if i were Kerry i would do this yearly until i got a ring or retired

[EhDubya]

Nobody has said it but Kerry Wood, come late July, to a contender that is desperate for a closer/set up man, because their man is on the DL.

 

It probably wasn't ever brought up before, but I think Arizona would be a good trade partner for Kerry Wood. Think we could get a good prospect for him? That is, if he waives his NTC.

[davearm2]

My guess is, Hendry doesn't actively shop Wood. But, once another team calls expressing interest, he can couch the conversation with Wood as "hey Kerry, so-and-so called asking if you'd like to join them, what would you like me to tell them?"

[Little Slide Rooter]

If Woody loves the Cubs so much, he should know that the best thing for the team is if we were to trade him and get some solid prospects in return. We could then resign him for another 1.5 mil next year, and repeat the process.

[apete6]

What about the waiver process? Obviously we would let anyone just take Soriano's contract, but what about Zambrano, Kosuke, Pena (who I think will be dealt anyway), Byrd, Dempster, or Aramis?

 

I'd almost be willing to just let any of them go for nothing to get out of the contracts, although I'm pretty sure we could actually get someone back for Pena, Byrd, Kosuke, and possibly Dempster.

[Sammy Sofa]

What about the waiver process? Obviously we would let anyone just take Soriano's contract, but what about Zambrano, Kosuke, Pena (who I think will be dealt anyway), Byrd, Dempster, or Aramis?

 

I'd almost be willing to just let any of them go for nothing to get out of the contracts, although I'm pretty sure we could actually get someone back for Pena, Byrd, Kosuke, and possibly Dempster.

 

Three of those players are gone after this year regardless, so "getting out of their contracts" isn't really a pertinent issue. And why would the Cubs need to "get out" of Byrd's contract?

[davearm2]

Also, players with NTCs can block waiver claims if they wish.

[Guest]

What about the waiver process? Obviously we would let anyone just take Soriano's contract, but what about Zambrano, Kosuke, Pena (who I think will be dealt anyway), Byrd, Dempster, or Aramis?

 

I'd almost be willing to just let any of them go for nothing to get out of the contracts, although I'm pretty sure we could actually get someone back for Pena, Byrd, Kosuke, and possibly Dempster.

 

Three of those players are gone after this year regardless, so "getting out of their contracts" isn't really a pertinent issue. And why would the Cubs need to "get out" of Byrd's contract?

If getting out from millions of dollars in their contracts allowed the Cubs to sign all their overslot guys in the draft and still have enough to binge a bit on overseas FA, would that be making a difference?

[Sammy Sofa]

What about the waiver process? Obviously we would let anyone just take Soriano's contract, but what about Zambrano, Kosuke, Pena (who I think will be dealt anyway), Byrd, Dempster, or Aramis?

 

I'd almost be willing to just let any of them go for nothing to get out of the contracts, although I'm pretty sure we could actually get someone back for Pena, Byrd, Kosuke, and possibly Dempster.

 

Three of those players are gone after this year regardless, so "getting out of their contracts" isn't really a pertinent issue. And why would the Cubs need to "get out" of Byrd's contract?

If getting out from millions of dollars in their contracts allowed the Cubs to sign all their overslot guys in the draft and still have enough to binge a bit on overseas FA, would that be making a difference?

 

Sure, but I don't think they're in that position.

[jersey cubs fan]

What about the waiver process? Obviously we would let anyone just take Soriano's contract, but what about Zambrano, Kosuke, Pena (who I think will be dealt anyway), Byrd, Dempster, or Aramis?

 

I'd almost be willing to just let any of them go for nothing to get out of the contracts, although I'm pretty sure we could actually get someone back for Pena, Byrd, Kosuke, and possibly Dempster.

 

Three of those players are gone after this year regardless, so "getting out of their contracts" isn't really a pertinent issue. And why would the Cubs need to "get out" of Byrd's contract?

If getting out from millions of dollars in their contracts allowed the Cubs to sign all their overslot guys in the draft and still have enough to binge a bit on overseas FA, would that be making a difference?

 

Sure, but I don't think they're in that position.

 

Well, I'm sure revenue is going to be lower than expected this year. A few million shifted away from a dying major league roster to the minor league system could easily be meaningful.

[Sammy Sofa]

What about the waiver process? Obviously we would let anyone just take Soriano's contract, but what about Zambrano, Kosuke, Pena (who I think will be dealt anyway), Byrd, Dempster, or Aramis?

 

I'd almost be willing to just let any of them go for nothing to get out of the contracts, although I'm pretty sure we could actually get someone back for Pena, Byrd, Kosuke, and possibly Dempster.

 

Three of those players are gone after this year regardless, so "getting out of their contracts" isn't really a pertinent issue. And why would the Cubs need to "get out" of Byrd's contract?

If getting out from millions of dollars in their contracts allowed the Cubs to sign all their overslot guys in the draft and still have enough to binge a bit on overseas FA, would that be making a difference?

 

Sure, but I don't think they're in that position.

 

Well, I'm sure revenue is going to be lower than expected this year. A few million shifted away from a dying major league roster to the minor league system could easily be meaningful.

 

Sure. But again, I don't think they're in a position where that has to happen. If the Ricketts want to shell out whatever it takes for their draft picks they can regardless of how much the MLB team is taking in this year.

[jersey cubs fan]

Sure. But again, I don't think they're in a position where that has to happen. If the Ricketts want to shell out whatever it takes for their draft picks they can regardless of how much the MLB team is taking in this year.

 

I don't see the point in talking about what they can and cannot do. Sure, the Ricketts could always just throw a few more million into the Cubs to allow for another signing. The point is there is a budget for the Chicago Cubs irrespective of the wealth of the family, which is based on the revenue of the Chicago Cubs. That budget is divided in many ways, but the meaningful one is the distinction between major league ballclub and prospect acquisition. Assume the budget is fixed. They didn't expect to suck this bad and be out of the race this early. Revenue is probably going to be lower. If they are going to spend $150m this year (made up number between payroll and signings), why not cut a little bit of that out of the major league budget and give a little boost to that prospect acquisition in what is already an exremely disappointing year?

[Sammy Sofa]

Sure. But again, I don't think they're in a position where that has to happen. If the Ricketts want to shell out whatever it takes for their draft picks they can regardless of how much the MLB team is taking in this year.

 

I don't see the point in talking about what they can and cannot do. Sure, the Ricketts could always just throw a few more million into the Cubs to allow for another signing. The point is there is a budget for the Chicago Cubs irrespective of the wealth of the family, which is based on the revenue of the Chicago Cubs. That budget is divided in many ways, but the meaningful one is the distinction between major league ballclub and prospect acquisition. Assume the budget is fixed. They didn't expect to suck this bad and be out of the race this early. Revenue is probably going to be lower. If they are going to spend $150m this year (made up number between payroll and signings), why not cut a little bit of that out of the major league budget and give a little boost to that prospect acquisition in what is already an exremely disappointing year?

 

I never gave a reason as to "why not." I asked why they should have to worry about getting out of the remaining money for several contracts that end after this year and you gave a potential reason.

[Tryptamine]

Ricketts has already said that there would be money to spend at the trade deadline. Rather than letting go of Kosuke, Pena etc for nothing but salary relief, they could just use that deadline money for their draft picks.

[ChiCubsFan]

Ricketts has already said that there would be money to spend at the trade deadline. Rather than letting go of Kosuke, Pena etc for nothing but salary relief, they could just use that deadline money for their draft picks.

 

However, the revenue they were expecting is well under expectations (especially compared to the situation you're talking about where the Cubs are acquiring players at the deadline). Therefore, that money they thought they'd have may not be there afterall.

[Little Slide Rooter]

If the Cubs really want to do some selling, and Woods OK with it, the Phillies would be the perfect partner. I know he loves his Cubs, but I really cant imagine him blocking a trade to a World Series, or at least pennant favorite. They definitely need some help in the pen, and dont seem to have much money to spend at the deadline, but may very well be willing to overpay in prospects for an arm like Wood, and we could maybe be able to sell them on Grabow as well if we pay whats left of the salaries, which wont be too much.