By all means Mr. Rosenthal, lets give Hendry an extension.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Hasnt Coletti pretty much done to the Dodgers what Hendry did to the Cubs, the difference being that the Dodgers traded Milton Bradley for Andre Ethier and had more prospects pan out, which would be more attributed to player developement than Colletti?

[jersey cubs fan]

How has Ned Colleti merited any kind of credibility as a good GM?

 

He's a "good baseball man" and once you get that label you will always have that label amongst a significant portion of the media and other "baseball men". Also, he sort of embodies the anti-analyst type of GM, and since his team made the playoffs three times under his watch, and you can shift blame for the demise on ownership, he will always get a free pass.

[SouthSideRyan]

Wasn't he a PR type with the Cubs back in the day? I'm sure the idiot media around here love him because he'd cater to their every whim in the 90s.

[MWV]

Not sure if such a thread already exists, but for those on the board with greater knowledge of potential front office candidates than myself, who would be your ideal choice for GM? Outside of a 2012 draft pick, it seems like the only positive that might come of this season is some housecleaning upstairs.

[NCCubFan]

Wasn't he a PR type with the Cubs back in the day? I'm sure the idiot media around here love him because he'd cater to their every whim in the 90s.

I was thinking it was traveling secretary, but yes, he did used to work for the Cubs.

[CP_414]

Not sure if such a thread already exists, but for those on the board with greater knowledge of potential front office candidates than myself, who would be your ideal choice for GM? Outside of a 2012 draft pick, it seems like the only positive that might come of this season is some housecleaning upstairs.

 

Andrew Friedman and Brian Cashman are not signed beyond this year. Friedman would probably be tough to get away from Tampa, but maybe he wants a bigger payroll to play with. Cashman might be sick of being overruled by ownership and want his own big market team to run. Either would be fine choices.

[Proven Veteran]

Not sure if such a thread already exists, but for those on the board with greater knowledge of potential front office candidates than myself, who would be your ideal choice for GM? Outside of a 2012 draft pick, it seems like the only positive that might come of this season is some housecleaning upstairs.

 

Andrew Friedman and Brian Cashman are not signed beyond this year. Friedman would probably be tough to get away from Tampa, but maybe he wants a bigger payroll to play with. Cashman might be sick of being overruled by ownership and want his own big market team to run. Either would be fine choices.

 

 

Getting Friedman would make me a Ricketts fan for life. Give him whatever he wants.

[davearm2]

And I thought Pujols was the big free agent this winter

[seanhopper]

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Now Rosenthal is speculating that Beane may want out of Oak. So, would he be a good choice to run the Cubs --I would lean towards yes. Bring him in as president and let him put the staff in order. Talk about a change. I don't believe the Ricketts would go for it however.

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't know why you'd think Ricketts would be against it. I get the feeling the next job Beane takes (assuming it's in baseball) will be a team president, not a GM. This would be great.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

[jersey cubs fan]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

 

It's played out only because there's only so long you can win 90 games on a shoestring budget. I'd be very happy to let a guy with a history of exploiting baseball people's idiocy try and do it again with twice the payroll.

[CubColtPacer]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

 

It's played out only because there's only so long you can win 90 games on a shoestring budget. I'd be very happy to let a guy with a history of exploiting baseball people's idiocy try and do it again with twice the payroll.

 

I'd be afraid that the same things that happened with MacPhail would happen with Beane. It's not easy to change your philosophy when you are transitioning from a small market with certain expectations to a big market with different expectations. I'm not sure Beane would be that much better with a bigger payroll.

[jersey cubs fan]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

 

It's played out only because there's only so long you can win 90 games on a shoestring budget. I'd be very happy to let a guy with a history of exploiting baseball people's idiocy try and do it again with twice the payroll.

 

I'd be afraid that the same things that happened with MacPhail would happen with Beane. It's not easy to change your philosophy when you are transitioning from a small market with certain expectations to a big market with different expectations. I'm not sure Beane would be that much better with a bigger payroll.

 

MacPhail was completely different though. He was completely beholden to the way a good baseball man would do it and apparently trying out for role as commisioner the entire time. I don't see Beane holding down payroll just to keep the establishment happy.

[davearm2]

This whole "one trick pony" is an interesting question, I think.

 

Obviously Beane thrived on exploiting a weakness, and making more effective use of data than others around the league were (at the time).

 

Now, most other clubs have caught on, and caught up, and his advantage has (seemingly) vanished.

 

So it remains an open question: can Beane find another way to innovate, or another weakness to exploit? We haven't seen it yet, IMO.

[SouthSideRyan]

It's why I'd like him as a president, implementing a talent evaluation system, using actual stats, and then letting the GM spend the money.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

 

It's played out only because there's only so long you can win 90 games on a shoestring budget. I'd be very happy to let a guy with a history of exploiting baseball people's idiocy try and do it again with twice the payroll.

 

It's played out because it worked and everyone aped it. Pretty much all the teams understand the value of OBP now. What's his next inefficiency going to be to exploit? I'm guessing he doesn't have one.

[CubColtPacer]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

 

It's played out only because there's only so long you can win 90 games on a shoestring budget. I'd be very happy to let a guy with a history of exploiting baseball people's idiocy try and do it again with twice the payroll.

 

I'd be afraid that the same things that happened with MacPhail would happen with Beane. It's not easy to change your philosophy when you are transitioning from a small market with certain expectations to a big market with different expectations. I'm not sure Beane would be that much better with a bigger payroll.

 

MacPhail was completely different though. He was completely beholden to the way a good baseball man would do it and apparently trying out for role as commisioner the entire time. I don't see Beane holding down payroll just to keep the establishment happy.

 

I don't think Beane would keep down payroll but I would be worried about an unwillingness for large contracts. A small market stays away from large, long contracts as much as it can. But that's not a good trait for a team like the Cubs to have. Would Beane try so hard to be efficient that he would end up keeping the Cubs away from the best players/

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't think Beane would keep down payroll but I would be worried about an unwillingness for large contracts. A small market stays away from large, long contracts as much as it can. But that's not a good trait for a team like the Cubs to have. Would Beane try so hard to be efficient that he would end up keeping the Cubs away from the best players/

 

Every report indicates he actually made strong offers to their best players. I really see no reason to assume he wouldn't sign stars to star contracts. MacPhail didn't even avoid that. It's a pointless worry.

[SouthSideRyan]

Pass on Beane. One trick pony. That trick is played out.

 

It's played out only because there's only so long you can win 90 games on a shoestring budget. I'd be very happy to let a guy with a history of exploiting baseball people's idiocy try and do it again with twice the payroll.

 

I'd be afraid that the same things that happened with MacPhail would happen with Beane. It's not easy to change your philosophy when you are transitioning from a small market with certain expectations to a big market with different expectations. I'm not sure Beane would be that much better with a bigger payroll.

 

MacPhail was completely different though. He was completely beholden to the way a good baseball man would do it and apparently trying out for role as commisioner the entire time. I don't see Beane holding down payroll just to keep the establishment happy.

 

I don't think Beane would keep down payroll but I would be worried about an unwillingness for large contracts. A small market stays away from large, long contracts as much as it can. But that's not a good trait for a team like the Cubs to have. Would Beane try so hard to be efficient that he would end up keeping the Cubs away from the best players/

 

I don't see why you'd think that. You assume he'd sign nothing but 2-3 year deals for mid-level players?

[Banedon]

When the Cubs are reportedly considering ppl like Ned Coletti....Billy Beane seems like a great choice.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

When the Cubs are reportedly considering ppl like Ned Coletti....Billy Beane seems like a great choice.

 

Conceded.

[Tarver]

Didn't Beane go all out to snag Beltre a few months ago? The Chavez deal was an obvious bust, but it's not like the guy is allergic to offering multi-year deals.

[Tarver]

When the Cubs are reportedly considering ppl like Ned Coletti....Billy Beane seems like a great choice.

 

Let's all pray thats just Rogers blowing smoke out of his ass.

[jersey cubs fan]

When the Cubs are reportedly considering ppl like Ned Coletti....Billy Beane seems like a great choice.

 

I'm not sure they are reportedly after him, as much as Phil Rogers' boring good old boy stupidity just brought up his name out of the blue.