By all means Mr. Rosenthal, lets give Hendry an extension.

[CubColtPacer]

That was probably the only real mistake in this pitching depth question.

So you are ignoring trading Gorz?

 

At the time the Cubs traded Gorz they had plenty of pitching depth and no place to put him. I don't consider that one a mistake. By the time Silva was released the equation had changed significantly.

[jersey cubs fan]

Injuries should be expected, but not to the magnitude we were hit with them all at once. If we don't get an abnormal amount of injuries all at once, nobody is decrying the trading of Gorz right now.

 

They got 2 injuries in the opening week. And a few more in late May. They didn't have an abnormal amount all at once.

 

The whole point is they didn't supply themselves with the necessary depth at starting pitcher. They went into it blind with a whole series of questionable pitchers in the rotation (and on top of that the manager foolishly risked the health of their most stable guy). You can't give them a pass for not having any depth just because if nobody got hurt they wouldn't have needed it.

[jersey cubs fan]

That was probably the only real mistake in this pitching depth question.

So you are ignoring trading Gorz?

 

At the time the Cubs traded Gorz they had plenty of pitching depth and no place to put him. I don't consider that one a mistake. By the time Silva was released the equation had changed significantly.

 

The day after they traded him they didn't have any depth. He was their best 6th option at the time.

[SouthSideRyan]

Gooney, do you think they should've kept Gorz and Silva in the big-league bullpen to start the year?

[jersey cubs fan]

Every major league team deals with unexpected setbacks throughout the season. You have to plan for setbacks, and one of the most basic ones you expect is you will need more than 5 starting pitchers. The Cubs did everything in their power to dwindle what had been decent depth. It doesn't make any sense to give them a pass because of unexpected injuries to pitchers when they purposefully went into the season without pitching depth.

 

For god's sake, they started a damn loogy for a month.

[CubColtPacer]

Gooney, do you think they should've kept Gorz and Silva in the big-league bullpen to start the year?

 

Yeah, I'm wondering that too. Would that have been your plan to keep depth?

[Sammy Sofa]

Injuries should be expected, but not to the magnitude we were hit with them all at once. If we don't get an abnormal amount of injuries all at once, nobody is decrying the trading of Gorz right now.

 

They got 2 injuries in the opening week. And a few more in late May. They didn't have an abnormal amount all at once.

 

Having two young starting pitchers simultaneously go on an extended DL stint during/after their first starts of the year is an abnormal amount at once.

Edited June 14, 2011 by Sammy Sofa

[Banedon]

"Obviously (Quade) didn't flip a light switch from last year to the beginning of this season and start managing differently or handling people differently," Hendry said. "We didn't play very well out of the gate, usually you can correct some of that."

 

"(The injuries are) unfortunate, but I certainly wouldn't dump any of that on Mike Quade," Hendry said. "He's certainly going to do a fine job here."

 

"I expected us to win at a higher level than three division championships even the first six years when it was going a lot better, I expected more out myself then," Hendry said. "This is professional baseball in a big market, with a great fan base. We should have done better the last year and half, that comes with the territory and that is my responsibility."

[davell]

To me, there's too much smoke to not have a fire: I think Hendry's done as GM pretty soon. But, here's the thing I'm wondering about: Will he still have some role with the Cubs? He's been here 16 years and whether we like it or not, he's extremely popular in baseball circles. I actually wonder if he could be named President, dump Kenney, and hire a guy from outside the organization to become GM.......

 

 

I know this sounds crazy(and I don't like it) but with his longevity here, the relationships he has with players here and the fact that he's had a couple of years to work his charm on Ricketts, I'm not sure this isn't a possibility.

[SouthSideRyan]

Hendry as president would be a [expletive] nightmare

[davearm2]

To me, there's too much smoke to not have a fire: I think Hendry's done as GM pretty soon. But, here's the thing I'm wondering about: Will he still have some role with the Cubs? He's been here 16 years and whether we like it or not, he's extremely popular in baseball circles. I actually wonder if he could be named President, dump Kenney, and hire a guy from outside the organization to become GM.......

 

 

I know this sounds crazy(and I don't like it) but with his longevity here, the relationships he has with players here and the fact that he's had a couple of years to work his charm on Ricketts, I'm not sure this isn't a possibility.

I don't think Hendry's skillset fits with the President role. He's purely a "baseball guy". The President oversees a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with the baseball side: marketing, sponsorships, TV and radio rights, interfacing with the city, infrastructure planning, stadium operations, rooftops, "premium" tickets, bringing football or concerts to Wrigley, etc. etc.

 

Keep Hendry in a role within baseball ops, or cut him loose.

[Backtobanks]

Nobody expects 2 of your starters to get injured early while one of your top prospects also gets injured. Also, Gorz was by far the best trading chip they had.

[Tarver]

It needs to be a clean sweep period. If Ricketts feels Kenney has done a good job on the marketing side of things, give him a different title and a more focused responsibility.

[dew1679666265]

They got 2 injuries in the opening week. And a few more in late May. They didn't have an abnormal amount all at once.

 

The whole point is they didn't supply themselves with the necessary depth at starting pitcher. They went into it blind with a whole series of questionable pitchers in the rotation (and on top of that the manager foolishly risked the health of their most stable guy). You can't give them a pass for not having any depth just because if nobody got hurt they wouldn't have needed it.

 

They had three starting pitchers get hurt - Wells, Cashner, McNutt - in the first two weeks of the season. Two of those were in the major league rotation and one was part of that depth you refuse to admit existed. Three young starting pitchers getting hurt in their first (Wells and Cashner) or second (McNutt) start of the year all at the same time is abnormal no matter how many times you want to deny it.

 

Once all three of those starters were hurt in the first two weeks of the season, our 4th, 5th and 7th best options were all hurt. To have the proper amount of depth to weather that, we would have had to have 8 quality MLB starting pitchers. Can you name me any team that regularly carries 8 quality MLB starting pitchers at the beginning of the year?