2011 College Football Offseason

[Guest]

Rhabdomyolysis. That is crazy.

 

hmm, now what could cause a bunch of football players to have the same type of muscle damage?

 

Apparently it's an overexertion thing. Stories coming out about how grueling workouts have been since they came back from break last week.

 

If it was steroids I don't think they would be putting out a press release and then leaking what the illness is.

 

12 players all having the same condition due to overexertion? Uh-huh.

 

Rhabdo is actually something one can get easily w/o supplements (I know 2 people who've gotten it, neither of whom would touch illegal supplements). Strenuous workouts + lack of hydration is what did my friends in too. Admittedly that doesn't discount the possibility of illicit supplements being present.

[E.J.]

Big 10 "family" photo from 1969:

 

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/kr9Uo.jpg

 

[SouthSideRyan]

Current "Big 12" family photo

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/ag_in_tx/blog/6d0d5d8f.jpg

[TruffleShuffle]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6057094

 

man does that donor ever sound like a self-important douche.

[hawkeyecub]

Rhabdomyolysis. That is crazy.

 

hmm, now what could cause a bunch of football players to have the same type of muscle damage?

 

Apparently it's an overexertion thing. Stories coming out about how grueling workouts have been since they came back from break last week.

 

If it was steroids I don't think they would be putting out a press release and then leaking what the illness is.

 

12 players all having the same condition due to overexertion? Uh-huh.

 

Rhabdo is actually something one can get easily w/o supplements (I know 2 people who've gotten it, neither of whom would touch illegal supplements). Strenuous workouts + lack of hydration is what did my friends in too. Admittedly that doesn't discount the possibility of illicit supplements being present.

 

Being that it was after a Monday workout, it wouldn't be surprising if a weekend full of boozing (first weekend back on campus) had them dehydrated already.

[bleedingblue]

Hawkeye fans:

 

I'm just curious, but how much rope does Ferentz gets before Iowa fans say that's enough? You guys have had everything negative possible happen there from assaults to DUIs to rapes to CBI. Now, this? 13 of your own players hospitalized for being overworked?

 

It has to be embarrassing to try to protect that program every couple of months when something negative comes. Has to be embarrassing to root for them.

 

Rich Rodriguez pretty much got fired at Michigan for practicing his players too much. Ferentz' S&C coach pretty much puts 13 of his players in the hospital from overworking them, and most Iowa fans I've heard say so what - it happens?

 

Name me one program that has had many players problems (excluding Florida under Urban Meyer) as Ferentz has had? I can't think of one.

 

I get it - he's a decent coach, but when is enough enough?

[hawkeyecub]

Hawkeye fans:

 

I'm just curious, but how much rope does Ferentz gets before Iowa fans say that's enough? You guys have had everything negative possible happen there from assaults to DUIs to rapes to CBI. Now, this? 13 of your own players hospitalized for being overworked?

 

It has to be embarrassing to try to protect that program every couple of months when something negative comes. Has to be embarrassing to root for them.

 

Rich Rodriguez pretty much got fired at Michigan for practicing his players too much. Ferentz' S&C coach pretty much puts 13 of his players in the hospital from overworking them, and most Iowa fans I've heard say so what - it happens?

 

Name me one program that has had many players problems (excluding Florida under Urban Meyer) as Ferentz has had? I can't think of one.

 

I get it - he's a decent coach, but when is enough enough?

 

Troll fail. Or just stupidity, I can't tell which.

[bleedingblue]

Hawkeye fans:

 

I'm just curious, but how much rope does Ferentz gets before Iowa fans say that's enough? You guys have had everything negative possible happen there from assaults to DUIs to rapes to CBI. Now, this? 13 of your own players hospitalized for being overworked?

 

It has to be embarrassing to try to protect that program every couple of months when something negative comes. Has to be embarrassing to root for them.

 

Rich Rodriguez pretty much got fired at Michigan for practicing his players too much. Ferentz' S&C coach pretty much puts 13 of his players in the hospital from overworking them, and most Iowa fans I've heard say so what - it happens?

 

Name me one program that has had many players problems (excluding Florida under Urban Meyer) as Ferentz has had? I can't think of one.

 

I get it - he's a decent coach, but when is enough enough?

 

Troll fail. Or just stupidity, I can't tell which.

 

Not a troll attempt at all. Just asking a simple question.

[hawkeyecub]

No, not really. And a quick scan of your posts shows that 90% of your college football posts are related to Iowa, every one of them negative.

[bleedingblue]

No, not really. And a quick scan of your posts shows that 90% of your college football posts are related to Iowa, every one of them negative.

 

Considering Iowa's football season was a disaster (on the field and off the field) this year, I'm probably sure there wasn't much positivity coming from anyone regarding them.

 

I'm just asking a simple question. If you don't want to answer it, ignore it.

[E.J.]

Hawkeye fans:

 

I'm just curious, but how much rope does Ferentz gets before Iowa fans say that's enough? You guys have had everything negative possible happen there from assaults to DUIs to rapes to CBI. Now, this? 13 of your own players hospitalized for being overworked?

 

It has to be embarrassing to try to protect that program every couple of months when something negative comes. Has to be embarrassing to root for them.

 

Rich Rodriguez pretty much got fired at Michigan for practicing his players too much. Ferentz' S&C coach pretty much puts 13 of his players in the hospital from overworking them, and most Iowa fans I've heard say so what - it happens?

 

Name me one program that has had many players problems (excluding Florida under Urban Meyer) as Ferentz has had? I can't think of one.

 

I get it - he's a decent coach, but when is enough enough?

 

Troll fail. Or just stupidity, I can't tell which.

 

I don't think it's trolling. I think it's an honest question, although worded a little strongly. Iowa has had some issues over the past few years and things always seem to be swept under the rug with no one ever batting an eye at Ferentz. People give Dantonio grief for the crap he's pulled with letting players back on the team the day after they got out of jail, but Iowa probably has more players who've been in trouble with the law. I can't imagine the commotion that would have started at the Detroit Free Press if Rich Rod had 12 kids all in the hospital at the same time because of pushing them too hard. Hell, Rich Rod got thrown under the bus because they practiced 45 minutes too long.

[hawkeyecub]

No, not really. And a quick scan of your posts shows that 90% of your college football posts are related to Iowa, every one of them negative.

 

Considering Iowa's football season was a disaster (on the field and off the field) this year, I'm probably sure there wasn't much positivity coming from anyone regarding them.

 

I'm just asking a simple question. If you don't want to answer it, ignore it.

 

No the point is that every one of your posts here is about Iowa for some reason yet you're not a fan. You seem eerily similar to Rusch33.

Edited January 28, 2011 by hawkeyecub

[hawkeyecub]

I don't think it's trolling. I think it's an honest question, although worded a little strongly. Iowa has had some issues over the past few years and things always seem to be swept under the rug with no one ever batting an eye at Ferentz. People give Dantonio grief for the crap he's pulled with letting players back on the team the day after they got out of jail, but Iowa probably has more players who've been in trouble with the law. I can't imagine the commotion that would have started at the Detroit Free Press if Rich Rod had 12 kids all in the hospital at the same time because of pushing them too hard. Hell, Rich Rod got thrown under the bus because they practiced 45 minutes too long.

 

Of course they've had issues. I don't think it's been swept under the rug, in that one bad summer it was a national story for quite a while. Before then and since then it's been your run of the mill college football stuff so it pretty much went away and they went back to winning.

 

Now this past couple of months you've had the DJK thing which was a black eye and this deal which is pretty weird. Players are saying that the workouts that ended with these guys getting rhabdo is the exact same thing they've always done. The drug tests came back negative for anything illegal. So this group of players was apparently taking or doing something that wound up with them being dehydrated.

 

His post is clearly just trying to get a response. And LOL at Rich Rod being fired for practicing too much.

[abuck1220]

Hawkeye fans:

 

I'm just curious, but how much rope does Ferentz gets before Iowa fans say that's enough? You guys have had everything negative possible happen there from assaults to DUIs to rapes to CBI. Now, this? 13 of your own players hospitalized for being overworked?

 

It has to be embarrassing to try to protect that program every couple of months when something negative comes. Has to be embarrassing to root for them.

 

Rich Rodriguez pretty much got fired at Michigan for practicing his players too much. Ferentz' S&C coach pretty much puts 13 of his players in the hospital from overworking them, and most Iowa fans I've heard say so what - it happens?

 

Name me one program that has had many players problems (excluding Florida under Urban Meyer) as Ferentz has had? I can't think of one.

 

I get it - he's a decent coach, but when is enough enough?

 

Troll fail. Or just stupidity, I can't tell which.

 

I don't think it's trolling. I think it's an honest question, although worded a little strongly. Iowa has had some issues over the past few years and things always seem to be swept under the rug with no one ever batting an eye at Ferentz. People give Dantonio grief for the crap he's pulled with letting players back on the team the day after they got out of jail, but Iowa probably has more players who've been in trouble with the law. I can't imagine the commotion that would have started at the Detroit Free Press if Rich Rod had 12 kids all in the hospital at the same time because of pushing them too hard. Hell, Rich Rod got thrown under the bus because they practiced 45 minutes too long.

 

no, he got thrown under the bus because michigan sucks.

[Andy]

Wait, so can we get Michigan's AD on the record as saying Rodriguez was fired for practicing too long and not for having two losing seasons, never winning a game of note and getting [expletive] annihilated by like the 6th best SEC team in his only bowl game?

[hawkeyecub]

Wait, so can we get Michigan's AD on the record as saying Rodriguez was fired for practicing too long and not for having two losing seasons, never winning a game of note and getting [expletive] annihilated by like the 6th best SEC team in his only bowl game?

 

No it had nothing to do with them being awful, being 6-18 in the Big Ten with 4 of those wins being against the bottom 3 of the league. It was just because they practiced too much.

Edited January 28, 2011 by hawkeyecub

[E.J.]

Hawkeye fans:

 

I'm just curious, but how much rope does Ferentz gets before Iowa fans say that's enough? You guys have had everything negative possible happen there from assaults to DUIs to rapes to CBI. Now, this? 13 of your own players hospitalized for being overworked?

 

It has to be embarrassing to try to protect that program every couple of months when something negative comes. Has to be embarrassing to root for them.

 

Rich Rodriguez pretty much got fired at Michigan for practicing his players too much. Ferentz' S&C coach pretty much puts 13 of his players in the hospital from overworking them, and most Iowa fans I've heard say so what - it happens?

 

Name me one program that has had many players problems (excluding Florida under Urban Meyer) as Ferentz has had? I can't think of one.

 

I get it - he's a decent coach, but when is enough enough?

 

Troll fail. Or just stupidity, I can't tell which.

 

I don't think it's trolling. I think it's an honest question, although worded a little strongly. Iowa has had some issues over the past few years and things always seem to be swept under the rug with no one ever batting an eye at Ferentz. People give Dantonio grief for the crap he's pulled with letting players back on the team the day after they got out of jail, but Iowa probably has more players who've been in trouble with the law. I can't imagine the commotion that would have started at the Detroit Free Press if Rich Rod had 12 kids all in the hospital at the same time because of pushing them too hard. Hell, Rich Rod got thrown under the bus because they practiced 45 minutes too long.

 

no, he got thrown under the bus because michigan sucks.

 

Well, yeah, that too.

[bleedingblue]

forget it. delete. Edited January 28, 2011 by bleedingblue

[SouthSideRyan]

I thought rusch was an Iowa fan

[hawkeyecub]

I thought rusch was an Iowa fan

 

Well he was but he mostly loved to rant about them and was banned from multiple Iowa boards. He also liked to post in the political threads here and post the Cubs lineups here early.

 

This guy started posting when Rusch stopped, has never posted about Indiana despite being a fan, loves to rant about Iowa, seems to know a lot of details on and off the field, posts the same way in the political thread and gets the lineups in game threads early.

[bleedingblue]

I thought rusch was an Iowa fan

 

Well he was but he mostly loved to rant about them and was banned from multiple Iowa boards. He also liked to post in the political threads here and post the Cubs lineups here early.

 

This guy started posting when Rusch stopped, has never posted about Indiana despite being a fan, loves to rant about Iowa, seems to know a lot of details on and off the field, posts the same way in the political thread and gets the lineups in game threads early.

 

If you want to talk Indiana football, we can. I just find no point in doing so.

 

Since you say I say nothing about Indiana football, I'll chime in: They're probably going to be terrible like always especially with Chappell graduated/Doss gone to the NFL next year. The offensive line next year with McDonald, Pagan, Damisch, and Matte returning should improve but offensively they have nothing left besides Belcher. He should flourish next year but there won't be Tandon to help take the pressure off. I expect him to be heavily covered next year by everybody.

 

I'm hoping for a pretty decent battle into camp between Roberson (Indiana's Mr. Football), Kiel and Wright-Baker for quarterback. I'm really not sure that Wilson would start a true freshmen over a sophomore, but Wright-Baker is nothing really impressive from what I've seen (more a runner than a passer). Both Wright-Baker and Roberson are dual-threat quarterbacks, and it'll be interesting with Oklahoma's style of football how it'll fit. I wonder if they'll lean towards Kiel since he's more of a pro-style quarterback, and that fits with Oklahoma's schemes. We're really going to miss Chappell for sure.

 

I would also expect Nick Turner to possibly take and really battle the job from Darius Willis depending if Willis can get back to 100 percent from patellar injury. It probably won't really matter because Willis can't seem to get through a season without getting hurt.

 

Up front defensively, I'm interested in seeing how Johnson plays as he seems to be the guy with Beckum the most in the backfield. Replogle isn't too bad upfront either. Other than that, the rest of the defense is pretty much garbage. They have Zack Shaw (4 star guy) coming in at linebacker, and that's about it there.

 

The cupboard is pretty much empty like always.

 

They should win 2-3 games next year (South Carolina State and maybe @ North Texas/Ball State). Conference-wise the only win is at home against Purdue and that's a long shot. Road schedule is hardest in conference - @ Iowa, Wisconsin, Mich. St, and Ohio St.

[shnsajax]

Ray Drew committed to Georgia today. Huge get for them, if they can land Crowell too they will have a top 5 class.

[dew1679666265]

Timmy Jernigan is apparently going to visit UT's campus this weekend. All signs indicate him not coming to Tennessee, but getting a visit out of him this close to signing day has to be a good sign even if it turns out to not change the outcome.

 

I'm still hoping we close out with Clear, Richardson, Byron Moore and Gabe Wright. If you add Jernigan to that list, Dooley has done very, very well.

[Jon]

The Iowa stuff is pretty scary. According to Joe Schad, an Iowa parent said that one player lost 20-30% of his kidney function and may never get it back. And some players have gained 30-50 pounds because of the amount of fluids that have been forced into their bodies since being hospitalized.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The Iowa stuff is pretty scary. According to Joe Schad, an Iowa parent said that one player lost 20-30% of his kidney function and may never get it back. And some players have gained 30-50 pounds because of the amount of fluids that have been forced into their bodies since being hospitalized.

There's something going on that we don't know about yet. They all tested negative for illegal drugs, but nobody has said anything about supplements or their weekend activities before Monday's workout (my guess is a lot of alcohol was consumed). They've been doing this exact same workout for years without any issues at all.