Bears game 14: Monday Dec 20, at MIN (TCF)

[jersey cubs fan]

This seems like the right time to remind everybody this Bears season never has been about winning the Super Bowl. This always has been about saving jobs.

 

Shut the hell up David Haugh!!!

 

I for one am not concerned with saving the highly compensated jobs of Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith (two guys who will still get paid if they get fired). This team has always had an opportunity to be a 12-game winner. They have several highly paid defensive players who can be studs. They have a franchise QB and other potential stars on offense. Expectations were relatively low because Lovie and Jerry have delivered so little for three years, not because of circumstances beyond their control. 6-10 or 10-6 should not have surprised anybody. 11 wins was never out of reach. If this team does win 11 or 12 it is time to be impressed with a job well done. But 10 still makes them only 33-31 for the past four years, hardly something to get giddy about.

 

For Jerry and Lovie it may be about saving their jobs. But for fans it is always about winning as many games as possible and getting a championship.

[rawaction]

No reason at all to play him. The Vikings have been eliminated and his streak has ended. I think he has played his last game.

 

If they don't have faith in Jackson going forward there are a few reasons to play Favre. One is that if Favre wants to play they probably want to go with the go they think gives them the best chance to win a game. I have trouble imagining Favre wanting to leave the game this way. The Vikings should love the opportunity to ruin the Bears hopes for the division.

 

Isn't there a rumor going around that Favre asked the team to IR him so he wouldn't have to do press conferences? I don't think Favre cares about how he "goes out". If so, he would have quit last year.

 

Haven't heard that rumor. There's been joking talk of a phantom suspension from Goodell regarding the dong photos.

 

That's actually probably pretty likely. She said she wanted him punished.

 

Is it weird that I kinda want to see the photos?

[Banedon]

Yeah....I view Smith's increased job security as an unfortunate consequence of having a "better than expected" season. At least better than *I* expected. Maybe I'm selling him short because I dislike him, but I think he lucked into some pretty talented assistant coaches this season.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah....I view Smith's increased job security as an unfortunate consequence of having a "better than expected" season. At least better than *I* expected. Maybe I'm selling him short because I dislike him, but I think he lucked into some pretty talented assistant coaches this season.

 

I'll go ahead and give him credit for the improved coaching staff. The problem is he spent so many years with a bad one and did so at his own choosing. He wanted the inexperienced teachers. Now he has actual NFL caliber coaches at several key spots, and not just special teams. Lovie is good at getting the most effort out of guys (most of the time) and generally doesn't lose them. But he needs an OC with a killer instinct and a DC with a mind for the job. If those guys all leave for greener pastures (something I see as doubtful with the exception of Tice) then it will be all for not. But if they keep the staff in place they can win with Lovie. But they need to do a lot more than win 10 games and qualify for the playoffs for the first time in 4 years in order for me to applaud a job well done.

[Banedon]

When I say that he "lucked" into them, it's that they were coaches that other teams weren't exactly clamouring for, and supposedly were not the Bears first choices. I suppose that could be the product of media speculation to some extent though.

[kujay]

For Jerry and Lovie it may be about saving their jobs. But for fans it is always about winning as many games as possible and getting a championship.

 

Of course. I don't think Haugh was implying anything else.

 

And that is the terrible thing about the success this year -- doomed to more in-game idiocy by Lovie and draft idiocy by Angelo.

[jersey cubs fan]

For Jerry and Lovie it may be about saving their jobs. But for fans it is always about winning as many games as possible and getting a championship.

 

Of course. I don't think Haugh was implying anything else.

 

And that is the terrible thing about the success this year -- doomed to more in-game idiocy by Lovie and draft idiocy by Angelo.

 

I think he was implying more. He was saying people should stop worrying about the Patriots disaster and be happy with where they are. He was implying that criticism of Lovie and Jerry is unfair if they do make the playoffs and that making the playoffs this year is a tremendous accomplishment for these two despite the fact that the only reason it wasn't a foregone conclusion is their own failures that led this team to three years of mediocrity.

[kujay]

For Jerry and Lovie it may be about saving their jobs. But for fans it is always about winning as many games as possible and getting a championship.

 

Of course. I don't think Haugh was implying anything else.

 

And that is the terrible thing about the success this year -- doomed to more in-game idiocy by Lovie and draft idiocy by Angelo.

 

I think he was implying more. He was saying people should stop worrying about the Patriots disaster and be happy with where they are. He was implying that criticism of Lovie and Jerry is unfair if they do make the playoffs and that making the playoffs this year is a tremendous accomplishment for these two despite the fact that the only reason it wasn't a foregone conclusion is their own failures that led this team to three years of mediocrity.

 

That's what I get for just reading the quote.

 

If he said what you are saying he said (still not going to go read the article), then yes, he needs to shut the hell up.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Is it weird that I kinda want to see the photos?

yes

[Banedon]

The Bears actually moved up a spot in the ESPN power rankings, from 9 to 8 thanks to the Pack and Jets losses.

[ELCABALLO45]

Tavaris Jackson has like about a 5% chance of playing this week. Favre is banged up. So it looks like it is either going to be Joe Webb or a street FA QB starting for the Vikings on Monday :banghead:

[bukie]

Crazy idea here, but maybe the Bears should game plan around Adrian Peterson, and try to make whoever is the QB beat them.

[ELCABALLO45]

Crazy idea here, but maybe the Bears should game plan around Adrian Peterson, and try to make whoever is the QB beat them.

 

That is a terrible idea.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Vikings released a statement that it'll either be at the Dome or TCF Bank Stadium, but it isn't decided yet.

[hawkeyecub]

Tavaris Jackson has like about a 5% chance of playing this week. Favre is banged up. So it looks like it is either going to be Joe Webb or a street FA QB starting for the Vikings on Monday :banghead:

 

5%? A street free agent won't beat out Webb.

 

I think it will be at TCF and Brett will play.

[cubbyvirus00]

Shameless question, but is there any doubt that the Bears draft will look like this?

 

1) DT

2) OL

3) CB

[jersey cubs fan]

shameless?

[UMFan83]

The Bears actually moved up a spot in the ESPN power rankings, from 9 to 8 thanks to the Pack and Jets losses.

 

The Packers lost by 4 points at less than full strength on the road and still put up a solid defensive performance.

 

The Bears got destroyed by 29 points at pretty much full strength at home and struggled mightily on both offense and defense.

 

Yet the Bears move ahead.

 

I know you all are thinking it. No I will never be satisfied with the power rankings :)

[Flames24Rulz]

Tavaris Jackson has like about a 5% chance of playing this week. Favre is banged up. So it looks like it is either going to be Joe Webb or a street FA QB starting for the Vikings on Monday :banghead:

 

5%? A street free agent won't beat out Webb.

 

I think it will be at TCF and Brett will play.

 

Yeah, it's sounding like Brett's going to play. He can't lose his final MNF game, right?

[UMFan83]

Tavaris Jackson has like about a 5% chance of playing this week. Favre is banged up. So it looks like it is either going to be Joe Webb or a street FA QB starting for the Vikings on Monday :banghead:

 

5%? A street free agent won't beat out Webb.

 

I think it will be at TCF and Brett will play.

 

Yeah, it's sounding like Brett's going to play. He can't lose his final MNF game, right?

 

Dunno, the man doesn't have a track record of finishing a portion of his career on top, considering in 2 of his 3 last games with a team he threw a pick to lose the NFC championship, and in the other he threw a pick to knock his team out of the playoffs.

[Flames24Rulz]

Tavaris Jackson has like about a 5% chance of playing this week. Favre is banged up. So it looks like it is either going to be Joe Webb or a street FA QB starting for the Vikings on Monday :banghead:

 

5%? A street free agent won't beat out Webb.

 

I think it will be at TCF and Brett will play.

 

Yeah, it's sounding like Brett's going to play. He can't lose his final MNF game, right?

 

Dunno, the man doesn't have a track record of finishing a portion of his career on top, considering in 2 of his 3 last games with a team he threw a pick to lose the NFC championship, and in the other he threw a pick to knock his team out of the playoffs.

 

I think there's a considerable difference between a meaningless Week 15 game for him and two of the last three NFC title games.

 

The problem is, he's a pretty bad QB as of right now. He can't be any worse than what we saw last night from Jackson, though.

[kujay]

Tavaris Jackson has like about a 5% chance of playing this week. Favre is banged up. So it looks like it is either going to be Joe Webb or a street FA QB starting for the Vikings on Monday :banghead:

 

5%? A street free agent won't beat out Webb.

 

I think it will be at TCF and Brett will play.

 

Yeah, it's sounding like Brett's going to play. He can't lose his final MNF game, right?

 

Dunno, the man doesn't have a track record of finishing a portion of his career on top, considering in 2 of his 3 last games with a team he threw a pick to lose the NFC championship, and in the other he threw a pick to knock his team out of the playoffs.

 

I think there's a considerable difference between a meaningless Week 15 game for him and two of the last three NFC title games.

 

The problem is, he's a pretty bad QB as of right now. He can't be any worse than what we saw last night from Jackson, though.

 

I'd be pretty surprised if Favre plays. I guess he's got one more chance to go out in glory on national TV, but the chances of that happening are pretty slim, even against our sometimes-good, sometimes-awful defense.

[Soul]

His hand was visibly purple. Not sure what that was about, but it looked really nasty.

 

I don't wish ill will on Favre. Through all this, I still admire what he's done.

 

But good Lord, go ahead and play him. He's not done very well against the Bears recently. He's really banged up. I don't see a reason Bear fans should fear him at all. He's a legend -- but quite beatable at this point.

[JonJayCutler]

But good Lord, go ahead and play him. He's not done very well against the Bears recently. He's really banged up. I don't see a reason Bear fans should fear him at all. He's a legend -- but quite beatable at this point.

 

This. A 41-year old QB with a bum shoulder who can't run? Yes, please.

 

Especially if it's outside at TCF.

[mul21]

But good Lord, go ahead and play him. He's not done very well against the Bears recently. He's really banged up. I don't see a reason Bear fans should fear him at all. He's a legend -- but quite beatable at this point.

 

This. A 41-year old QB with a bum shoulder who can't run? Yes, please.

 

Especially if it's outside at TCF.

 

Yeah, I have a hard time believing he'll be in any shape to play with a purple hand/arm that's obviously not getting normal circulation and feeling. Plus, this is normally a 3-4 week injury and they're going to end up playing outside. Not a good recipe for him to be ready and able to play.