Bradley Suspended for the Rest of the Season

[CUBZ99]

From chicagosports.com

 

Hendry's decision to suspend Bradley was based on several factors, including Bradley's claim to the Daily Herald that "negativity" surrounds the organization, as well as the outfielder's angry confrontation with hitting coach Von Joshua on Saturday after he refused to pinch hit.

 

well, racism is out the window

 

Maybe Von Joshua isn't entirely black?

[imb]

the way this all played out is bradley's fault. i don't know if he's unbalanced (likely) or what, but whatever, he's acted like a dick and his teammates don't care for him.

 

But the real villain in all this is Jim Hendry. I keep hearing that we'll have to eat 80-90 percent of this contract to move it. That's 16+ million dollars for a potentially cash-strapped team. There was a risk-assessment in this signing that the Cubs' brass totally failed at. Now we have to eat a lot of dough just to get Bradley off the roster, and the odds seem low that we'll be able to get a RF replacement in the deal, meaning we'll have to promote in-house (we have no one worthy of a spot on our current roster) or sign someone, which we can't do since we'll be paying 16 million dollars for Milton Bradley to play in Oakland, or wherever.

 

Unless Hendry can figure out a way to get someone in here for RF that isn't a complete disaster, this has to cost him his job. For better or worse, he's somewhat married to this situation and it went as badly as possible. This was such an avoidable situation and he walked into it head first.

[A-Cal]

the way this all played out is bradley's fault. i don't know if he's unbalanced (likely) or what, but whatever, he's acted like a dick and his teammates don't care for him.

 

But the real villain in all this is Jim Hendry. I keep hearing that we'll have to eat 80-90 percent of this contract to move it. That's 16+ million dollars for a potentially cash-strapped team. There was a risk-assessment in this signing that the Cubs' brass totally failed at. Now we have to eat a lot of dough just to get Bradley off the roster, and the odds seem low that we'll be able to get a RF replacement in the deal, meaning we'll have to promote in-house (we have no one worthy of a spot on our current roster) or sign someone, which we can't do since we'll be paying 16 million dollars for Milton Bradley to play in Oakland, or wherever.

 

Unless Hendry can figure out a way to get someone in here for RF that isn't a complete disaster, this has to cost him his job. For better or worse, he's somewhat married to this situation and it went as badly as possible. This was such an avoidable situation and he walked into it head first.

 

beautiful man

 

:good:

[Vanilla Ice]

It would have been nice to still have Pie

[Tyrant]

He performed like a league average RF.

 

This isn't really the point of all of this (though I don't know what the point of this thread is anymore), and it's nitpicking, but factoring in defense, Bradley was below-average this year.

[davell]

The Bradley situation will wind up being the reason the Cubs don't offer Harden arbitration.

[davell]

I just looked up Millwood's contract and while he is owed 1 year and 12 million, he is ALSO owed 15 mill in his signing bonus to be paid out between 2011-2015.

[coldsteel]

When I think about Milton Bradley and the 2009 Cubs, I fire up Philip Glass Metamorphosis Five. Seems to help.

[OleMissCub]

When I think about Milton Bradley and the 2009 Cubs, I fire up Philip Glass Metamorphosis Five. Seems to help.

 

glad to see I'm not the only one who listens to Glass

[Larry Horse]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1783342,CST-SPT-deluca22.article

 

As this season went on, I really came to dislike Bradley.

 

Now, I am starting to feel sorry for him. From the sounds of it, he has some mood swings/coping problems. I've heard about the terrible upbringing he had and I think he might need some professional help. Or maybe going back to Texas would help things considerably.

 

Where ever he ends up, hopefully it won't be a major market.

[Rob]

He performed like a league average RF.

 

This isn't really the point of all of this (though I don't know what the point of this thread is anymore), and it's nitpicking, but factoring in defense, Bradley was below-average this year.

 

UZR has him 2.6 runs below average. FRAA has him 6 runs over average. I imagine most metrics have him floating somewhere around average or within a few runs of it.

[wvcbxl]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1783342,CST-SPT-deluca22.article

 

... From the sounds of it, he has some mood swings/coping problems...

 

Procedural question: can stuff like that be a reason to put a guy on the DL? Because that would have been a more elegant way out of this mess, obtaining the same result (getting Bradley out of the clubhouse for the rest of the season).

[laurens]

When I think about Milton Bradley and the 2009 Cubs, I fire up Philip Glass Metamorphosis Five. Seems to help.

 

glad to see I'm not the only one who listens to Glass

 

Heh, I also use some Metamorphisises (One and Two) to calm down once in a while.

[Rob]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1783342,CST-SPT-deluca22.article

 

... From the sounds of it, he has some mood swings/coping problems...

 

Procedural question: can stuff like that be a reason to put a guy on the DL? Because that would have been a more elegant way out of this mess, obtaining the same result (getting Bradley out of the clubhouse for the rest of the season).

 

If we had Bradley's permission, I know it wouldn't be a problem. A lot of players have gone on the DL in the last couple years with psychological issues... Zack Greinke, Joey Votto, Dontrelle Willis, Justin Duchscherer, Khalil Greene...

 

As to whether we could do it without his permission? I'm not sure, but I'd sincerely doubt it. At the least, I can't imagine Bradley would consent to an evaluation, which would give him a slam dunk case when the players association decides to file a grievance on his behalf.

[laurens]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1783342,CST-SPT-deluca22.article

 

From the sounds of it, he has some mood swings/coping problems. I've heard about the terrible upbringing he had and I think he might need some professional help.

 

Well, that would explain the whole "I hate Cubs fans/ I love 'em!", "I love it here/Hate it here" stuff. I hope he can get professional help, and start with a clean slate next season. But I guess that's wishful thinking on my part.

[Eric Clipperton]

the way this all played out is bradley's fault. i don't know if he's unbalanced (likely) or what, but whatever, he's acted like a dick and his teammates don't care for him.

 

But the real villain in all this is Jim Hendry. I keep hearing that we'll have to eat 80-90 percent of this contract to move it. That's 16+ million dollars for a potentially cash-strapped team. There was a risk-assessment in this signing that the Cubs' brass totally failed at. Now we have to eat a lot of dough just to get Bradley off the roster, and the odds seem low that we'll be able to get a RF replacement in the deal, meaning we'll have to promote in-house (we have no one worthy of a spot on our current roster) or sign someone, which we can't do since we'll be paying 16 million dollars for Milton Bradley to play in Oakland, or wherever.

 

Unless Hendry can figure out a way to get someone in here for RF that isn't a complete disaster, this has to cost him his job. For better or worse, he's somewhat married to this situation and it went as badly as possible. This was such an avoidable situation and he walked into it head first.

 

Agree entirely, Hendry looked like an idiot through this entire scenario. Piniella too. They looked like complete amateurs who were overmatched in the big leagues. They were the Aaron Miles and Jose Macias of coaching and GMing, respectively. Except way fatter.

[SCCubbieFAN]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1783342,CST-SPT-deluca22.article

 

... From the sounds of it, he has some mood swings/coping problems...

 

Procedural question: can stuff like that be a reason to put a guy on the DL? Because that would have been a more elegant way out of this mess, obtaining the same result (getting Bradley out of the clubhouse for the rest of the season).

 

Chris DeLuca said in his article that is/was an option because Bradley refused to play. The better question is can the Cubs void his contract for his antics?

[Little Slide Rooter]

According to WSCR, the Players Union is considering filing a grievence againt the Cubs in regards to the Bradley suspension.

[fiver]

the way this all played out is bradley's fault. i don't know if he's unbalanced (likely) or what, but whatever, he's acted like a dick and his teammates don't care for him.

 

But the real villain in all this is Jim Hendry. I keep hearing that we'll have to eat 80-90 percent of this contract to move it. That's 16+ million dollars for a potentially cash-strapped team. There was a risk-assessment in this signing that the Cubs' brass totally failed at. Now we have to eat a lot of dough just to get Bradley off the roster, and the odds seem low that we'll be able to get a RF replacement in the deal, meaning we'll have to promote in-house (we have no one worthy of a spot on our current roster) or sign someone, which we can't do since we'll be paying 16 million dollars for Milton Bradley to play in Oakland, or wherever.

 

Unless Hendry can figure out a way to get someone in here for RF that isn't a complete disaster, this has to cost him his job. For better or worse, he's somewhat married to this situation and it went as badly as possible. This was such an avoidable situation and he walked into it head first.

 

correct.

[Kid Gleason]

Is this whole thing with Bradley worse than the Todd Hundley and Dave Kingman situations? Will Bradley eventually be crowned "most reviled" Cub?

[wvcbxl]

According to WSCR, the Players Union is considering filing a grievence againt the Cubs in regards to the Bradley suspension.

 

The question is: what would be the purpose of that? If indeed Bradley refused to play when asked to, such a grievance could backfire easily.

[CUBZ99]

According to WSCR, the Players Union is considering filing a grievence againt the Cubs in regards to the Bradley suspension.

 

The question is: what would be the purpose of that? If indeed Bradley refused to play when asked to, such a grievance could backfire easily.

 

And the fact that the Cubs are probably still going to pay him during the suspension. It seems to me that they were doing him a favor by suspending him and not placing him on the DL, due to the clause in his contract regarding his option vesting in 2011.

[Soul]

According to WSCR, the Players Union is considering filing a grievence againt the Cubs in regards to the Bradley suspension.

 

The question is: what would be the purpose of that? If indeed Bradley refused to play when asked to, such a grievance could backfire easily.

 

And the fact that the Cubs are probably still going to pay him during the suspension. It seems to me that they were doing him a favor by suspending him and not placing him on the DL, due to the clause in his contract regarding his option vesting in 2011.

 

Plus, what would be the remedy in a situation like this? The Cubs are forced to play a guy that even the players don't want around for a couple meaningless games at the end?

[SouthSideRyan]

According to WSCR, the Players Union is considering filing a grievence againt the Cubs in regards to the Bradley suspension.

 

The question is: what would be the purpose of that? If indeed Bradley refused to play when asked to, such a grievance could backfire easily.

 

And the fact that the Cubs are probably still going to pay him during the suspension. It seems to me that they were doing him a favor by suspending him and not placing him on the DL, due to the clause in his contract regarding his option vesting in 2011.

 

The union wants to make sure he does get paid, which its been rumored they're considering not doing.

[Soul]

Is this whole thing with Bradley worse than the Todd Hundley and Dave Kingman situations? Will Bradley eventually be crowned "most reviled" Cub?

 

Hundley was flicking off fans after home runs.

 

It's close.

 

I was too young to really remember all the behind-the-scenes stuff with Kingman. I knew he wasn't liked, but that's about it.