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so how did bradley get through an entire year with texas unscathed?

 

Because their fans aren't as dumb as ours?

 

people are really trying to blame the fans for this?

 

I'd probably put it at something like 50% Bradley's fault, about 30% the media's, and about 20% the fans.

 

might as well start off your time here by making yourself look like a moron

 

It's okay to disagree with other posters, but please show some respect.

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It's okay to disagree with other posters, but please show some respect

 

ok i apologize but the comment was insane nonetheless. Bradley is a a sissy. Fans in this town will cut you a lot of breaks if you are actually trying. They will not when you piss and moan and dont give it your all. i hope this person is gone, he is a cancer on ths team. we the fans saw this and thats not tolerable and called him on it and he is too weak to deal with it

 

we all wanted someone with fire but all we got was a complete loser and a quitter

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(Once again, take with a grain of salt due to the media's "Destroy Milton Bradley" bias.)

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-21-cubs-cardinals-chicago-sep21,0,1712208.story

 

 

"Bradley had been more erratic than usual this weekend, telling teammates he was having marital difficulties and sparring with hitting coach Von Joshua. Hendry spent the last three days contemplating the suspension.

 

Bradley's downfall began when he pulled himself from Thursday's game with apparent knee soreness, one day after manager Lou Piniella pulled him after the third inning on a double switch. Bradley's angry postgame media session embarrassed the organization, and his tug of war the last few days with Piniella became untenable.

 

Bradley took himself out of Saturday's lineup, then refused to pinch-hit late in the game, leading to Joshua getting in his face. When Bradley complained to the Daily Herald about "negativity" surrounding the organization, Hendry finally pulled the plug."

 

I'm sure more and more info will get out. It sounds like some time off may be a positive thing for him, so he can deal with his issues. We tend to forget that the players are people too, and have to deal with more than baseball.

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we all wanted someone with fire but all we got was a complete loser and a quitter

If that's all you wanted you should be happy with Bradley.

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It's okay to disagree with other posters, but please show some respect

 

ok i apologize but the comment was insane nonetheless. Bradley is a a sissy. Fans in this town will cut you a lot of breaks if you are actually trying. They will not when you piss and moan and dont give it your all. i hope this person is gone, he is a cancer on ths team. we the fans saw this and thats not tolerable and called him on it and he is too weak to deal with it

 

i don't have a point about bradley, but sometimes the fans and even the organization are really [expletive] stupid about who's trying and who's not. back in the '80s the sixers had a guy named andrew toney who was a great player when he came into the league, but he developed stress fractures in his feet and by the mid-80s was missing a lot of time. the sixers' ownership accused him of faking his foot problems as sort of a hold out for a long-term contract, and the owner even got the NBA to test him for drugs. the fans, like lemmings, bought into the garbage that ownership was spreading and started shouting terrible things at toney. he played a couple more years but wasn't good and couldn't stay healthy, and retired by age 30.

 

i guess my point is, sometimes a guy is trying but he's talented enough to make it look effortless; sometimes a guy wants to be out there but can't; sometimes ownership is just inept and treats a guy like [expletive] and the media and fans just buy into it.

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If all that stuff is true on top of everything else this year, I'm not sure how people can still say they didn't have to suspend him.

 

How long was Carlos Zambrano suspended for punching his own teammate? In my opinion Z's actions over the last few years have been a hell of alot worse than anything Bradley has said or done. Yet Jim Hendry hasnt done a damn thing to Z. Bradley is being used as a scapegoat, and had he been putting up numbers all year, and the Cubs werent way out of it, not a damn thing would have been done to Bradley. Hendry is trying to satisfy the dumbass fans of this teams, and take the attention away from this [expletive] team, and his horrible off season.

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If all that stuff is true on top of everything else this year, I'm not sure how people can still say they didn't have to suspend him.

 

How long was Carlos Zambrano suspended for punching his own teammate? In my opinion Z's actions over the last few years have been a hell of alot worse than anything Bradley has said or done. Yet Jim Hendry hasnt done a damn thing to Z. Bradley is being used as a scapegoat, and had he been putting up numbers all year, and the Cubs werent way out of it, not a damn thing would have been done to Bradley. Hendry is trying to satisfy the [expletive] fans of this teams, and take the attention away from this [expletive] team, and his horrible off season.

 

no zambrano has not

 

i don't think anyone has ever offered any quote referencing Z not contributing to a positive team atmosphere

 

bradley wouldn't have said these things if we were looking at this team from a successful season vantage point...no way

 

i agree that hendry has done a bad job, trying to appease the fans? not likely i think the situation should (and could have) been handled internally, but hendry IMO has punched his ticket out of town just as much as bradley

 

unless hendry has some serious jedi mind trick power, i don't see how tom ricketts can stand by and let him continue this festival of bad management...look for an extremely active offseason on the northside both on and off the field

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i agree with a lot of his points, but the piling on by his teammates is pretty damning, and joe didn't touch on that at all.

 

I dont expect the team to go out against their GM and Manager and say it shouldnt have happened etc... Also its not like Demp and ARam are going to come out and agree with anything he said about the fans, the city, the organization etc.... DLee made a statement that stood out to me.

 

"If a guy gets suspended, I'm sure he did something to deserve it," Lee said

 

That quote to me sounds like DLee doesnt even know why he was suspended, but he isnt going to go against the "company speak".

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If all that stuff is true on top of everything else this year, I'm not sure how people can still say they didn't have to suspend him.

 

How long was Carlos Zambrano suspended for punching his own teammate? In my opinion Z's actions over the last few years have been a hell of alot worse than anything Bradley has said or done. Yet Jim Hendry hasnt done a damn thing to Z. Bradley is being used as a scapegoat, and had he been putting up numbers all year, and the Cubs werent way out of it, not a damn thing would have been done to Bradley. Hendry is trying to satisfy the [expletive] fans of this teams, and take the attention away from this [expletive] team, and his horrible off season.

 

no zambrano has not

 

i don't think anyone has ever offered any quote referencing Z not contributing to a positive team atmosphere

 

bradley wouldn't have said these things if we were looking at this team from a successful season vantage point...no way

 

i agree that hendry has done a bad job, trying to appease the fans? not likely i think the situation should (and could have) been handled internally, but hendry IMO has punched his ticket out of town just as much as bradley

 

unless hendry has some serious jedi mind trick power, i don't see how tom ricketts can stand by and let him continue this festival of bad management...look for an extremely active offseason on the northside both on and off the field

 

When you say "no Zambrano has not" are you saying he hasnt done stuff as bad or worse than Bradley?

 

Z's comments about not being in shape, and "if they dont want me they can trade me" isnt exactly pointing positive messages to the team.

 

Bradley may not have said these things if the team was more successful, but Hendry wouldnt have suspended him in my opinion either if Bradley had put up numbers he thought he would.

 

I 100% believe Hendry is doing this to appease the fans, and take the attention away from himself, and his horrible off-season, and away from this teams horrible season.

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i agree with a lot of his points, but the piling on by his teammates is pretty damning, and joe didn't touch on that at all.

 

I dont expect the team to go out against their GM and Manager and say it shouldnt have happened etc... Also its not like Demp and ARam are going to come out and agree with anything he said about the fans, the city, the organization etc.... DLee made a statement that stood out to me.

 

"If a guy gets suspended, I'm sure he did something to deserve it," Lee said

 

That quote to me sounds like DLee doesnt even know why he was suspended, but he isnt going to go against the "company speak".

 

are you kidding me, you sure are inferring an awful lot there in regards to DLee

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i agree with a lot of his points, but the piling on by his teammates is pretty damning, and joe didn't touch on that at all.

 

I dont expect the team to go out against their GM and Manager and say it shouldnt have happened etc... Also its not like Demp and ARam are going to come out and agree with anything he said about the fans, the city, the organization etc.... DLee made a statement that stood out to me.

 

"If a guy gets suspended, I'm sure he did something to deserve it," Lee said

 

That quote to me sounds like DLee doesnt even know why he was suspended, but he isnt going to go against the "company speak".

 

are you kidding me, you sure are inferring an awful lot there in regards to DLee

 

How am I inferring anything? DLee doesnt say that what Bradley did deserved a suspension, he says "if a guy gets suspended, Im sure he did something to deserve it". Thats company speak in my opinion, and its DLee being the "good guy" and not saying anything that could get him in trouble. Does he think Bradley deserves suspended? I dont know, but either do you from his comments.

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i agree with a lot of his points, but the piling on by his teammates is pretty damning, and joe didn't touch on that at all.

 

I think the only thing that was damning was Dempster's comments. The rest were pretty tame and expected considering they were talking about a guy who was just punished by their boss. Were they supposed to say, "man Hendry's a [expletive] idiot"

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i agree with a lot of his points, but the piling on by his teammates is pretty damning, and joe didn't touch on that at all.

 

I think the only thing that was damning was Dempster's comments. The rest were pretty tame and expected considering they were talking about a guy who was just punished by their boss. Were they supposed to say, "man Hendry's a [expletive] idiot"

 

Exactly. It was basically company speak.

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If all that stuff is true on top of everything else this year, I'm not sure how people can still say they didn't have to suspend him.

 

How long was Carlos Zambrano suspended for punching his own teammate? In my opinion Z's actions over the last few years have been a hell of alot worse than anything Bradley has said or done. Yet Jim Hendry hasnt done a damn thing to Z. Bradley is being used as a scapegoat, and had he been putting up numbers all year, and the Cubs werent way out of it, not a damn thing would have been done to Bradley. Hendry is trying to satisfy the [expletive] fans of this teams, and take the attention away from this [expletive] team, and his horrible off season.

 

no zambrano has not

 

i don't think anyone has ever offered any quote referencing Z not contributing to a positive team atmosphere

 

 

Cause Zambrano's still on the team? Zambrano's had heat with his teammates and his manager in public. He had his questionable injury this year. Where's Z's suspension?

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I 100% believe Hendry is doing this to appease the fans, and take the attention away from himself, and his horrible off-season, and away from this teams horrible season.

How does this do anything but turn the attention back to the Cubs and Hendry? 3 days ago, they were just playing out the string of games, people had gotten over the fact that they were terrible this year, and the city was focused on Urlacher's injury and whether Jay Cutler can win a game. Now he's brought a lot of that attention back to the Cubs and writers around the country are once again bringing up the Cubs' horrible season. Bradley insulted the organization as a whole, as well as the rest of his teammates, so Hendry did what he felt was necessary.

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If all that stuff is true on top of everything else this year, I'm not sure how people can still say they didn't have to suspend him.

 

How long was Carlos Zambrano suspended for punching his own teammate? In my opinion Z's actions over the last few years have been a hell of alot worse than anything Bradley has said or done. Yet Jim Hendry hasnt done a damn thing to Z. Bradley is being used as a scapegoat, and had he been putting up numbers all year, and the Cubs werent way out of it, not a damn thing would have been done to Bradley. Hendry is trying to satisfy the [expletive] fans of this teams, and take the attention away from this [expletive] team, and his horrible off season.

 

no zambrano has not

 

i don't think anyone has ever offered any quote referencing Z not contributing to a positive team atmosphere

 

 

Cause Zambrano's still on the team? Zambrano's had heat with his teammates and his manager in public. He had his questionable injury this year. Where's Z's suspension?

 

you really think zambrano is in the same league as bradley in this situation?

 

this situation is amazing, i can't believe some of the connections and thoughts coming forth

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I 100% believe Hendry is doing this to appease the fans, and take the attention away from himself, and his horrible off-season, and away from this teams horrible season.

How does this do anything but turn the attention back to the Cubs and Hendry? 3 days ago, they were just playing out the string of games, people had gotten over the fact that they were terrible this year, and the city was focused on Urlacher's injury and whether Jay Cutler can win a game. Now he's brought a lot of that attention back to the Cubs and writers around the country are once again bringing up the Cubs' horrible season. Bradley insulted the organization as a whole, as well as the rest of his teammates, so Hendry did what he felt was necessary.

 

Because now Bradley can definitely be used as the scapegoat, and the bad chemistry plus injuries can now be used why the Cubs underperformed. All the focus is on Bradley now, and off the performance of the team.

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