Bradley Suspended for the Rest of the Season

[Rob]

No, I don't. I didn't like Alou either but he performed, so you learned to live with it. Milton Bradley, as Bob Brenly just said: "Did absolutely nothing to help the Cubs on or off the field."

 

If Milton had performed, most of what he has done would be a non issue. He's run his mouth way too much for a mediocre, bust player.

 

Jesus...

 

He performed like a league average RF. I understand the desire to have something to point at besides your own personal feelings about the guy, but continuing to bitch about his production like it's a good reason to hate him is absurd and just makes you look like an ass. It's completely offbase and if you'd read any of this thread, you'd know that.

[cubstitlelives]

Im not watching the game as I dont get WCIU, and well because Im watching football, but Id love to hear Brenlys completely 100% unbiased reactions...... Im sure its a 100% non meat head response

 

"Milton Bradley did absolutely nothing to help the Cubs win games. Had he done that, you learn to live with it. In fact, the distractions on and off the field were helping them lose games."

[Keener98]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

Even if there is a good comparison there (and I really don't know about it since you're compiling all of Z's questionable actions over the course of years while Bradley's have come over a few months) Bradley isn't going to get the same sort of leash as Z and he really doesn't deserve that long of a leash.

 

So its ok to be a dick and act like a child numerous times over the course of 3-5 years, but its not ok to be a dick a couple times in 1 season because he hasnt endeared himself to the Cubbie faithful? Not sure I agree with that

 

Im not quite sure how Z could deserve a longer leash, when he has shown repeatedly hes going to do what he wants. Punch teammates, throw balls toward the crowd, be out of shape, etc.....I dont see how Bradley as done anything near as bad as some of the [expletive] Z has, and fans look at it as Z being passionate.

 

The point about the things occurring over years is that if you space out your stupid things, then it might never be quite bad enough to get you suspended because you earn some credit back in between. That's part of what has happened to Z who has been close a couple of times but then apologizes and behaves for a while.

 

Why does Bradley not get as big of a leash as Z? Because of his past. The multiple times he had confrontations with managers/GM's/announcers etc. The legal troubles. The troubles with MLB with certain incidents. Bradley's got at least one of the top 3 most checkered histories in the entire league, and that doesn't all get washed away when he becomes a Cub. The Cubs were willing to give him another chance, but that doesn't mean he gets as much as Z who doesn't have nearly the history that Bradley does.

 

Also, what SSR said was right. At times, the Cubs have put up with Z because they needed him so badly (especially after the fight with Barrett, which is probably the one time that Z should have been suspended). They also haven't done anything with Z because it didn't hurt business to not do anything. With Bradley, they both don't need him nearly as much as Z and he has continued to make comments about the fans and organization.

 

I agree with what you are saying, and thats part of my point. Z's past behavior is pretty damn checkered, and the Cubs have overlooked it for years. Like you said the Cubs overlooked it because of how he performed. So in essence, as long as you perform, the Cubs will overlook your actions.

[Keener98]

Im not watching the game as I dont get WCIU, and well because Im watching football, but Id love to hear Brenlys completely 100% unbiased reactions...... Im sure its a 100% non meat head response

 

"Milton Bradley did absolutely nothing to help the Cubs win games. Had he done that, you learn to live with it. In fact, the distractions on and off the field were helping them lose games."

 

 

Yup exactly the meat head response from Brenly that I expected. Show me any proof at all that Bradleys distractions off the field(whatever they were) helped them lose games.

[Sammy Sofa]

Im not watching the game as I dont get WCIU, and well because Im watching football, but Id love to hear Brenlys completely 100% unbiased reactions...... Im sure its a 100% non meat head response

 

"Milton Bradley did absolutely nothing to help the Cubs win games. Had he done that, you learn to live with it. In fact, the distractions on and off the field were helping them lose games."

 

How? Milton Bradley was crippling their ability to hit with RISP? What an amazingly selective clubhouse cancer.

[cubstitlelives]

No, I don't. I didn't like Alou either but he performed, so you learned to live with it. Milton Bradley, as Bob Brenly just said: "Did absolutely nothing to help the Cubs on or off the field."

 

If Milton had performed, most of what he has done would be a non issue. He's run his mouth way too much for a mediocre, bust player.

 

Jesus...

 

He performed like a league average RF. I understand the desire to have something to point at besides your own personal feelings about the guy, but continuing to bitch about his production like it's a good reason to hate him is absurd and just makes you look like an ass. It's completely offbase and if you'd read any of this thread, you'd know that.

 

He wasn't signed to be average, he was signed to be very, very good. The fact that he wasn't close to good and then has the balls to blame the media, fans and the "negativity" around the club shows he's a douche.

[Sammy Sofa]

The fact that he wasn't close to good

 

That's not a fact at all.

[inari]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why does Bradley not get as big of a leash as Z? Because of his past. The multiple times he had confrontations with managers/GM's/announcers etc. The legal troubles. The troubles with MLB with certain incidents. Bradley's got at least one of the top 3 most checkered histories in the entire league, and that doesn't all get washed away when he becomes a Cub. The Cubs were willing to give him another chance, but that doesn't mean he gets as much as Z who doesn't have nearly the history that Bradley does.

 

And because of that history you'd think the Cubs would be prepared for this kind of thing. That they'd take the proper steps both to prevent incidents from happening, along with giving him some leeway when they do happen. If you aren't willing to do that, then you don't sign the guy. It looks like as usual, Hendry took the best season from a player and assumed he would continue at that pace, this time both his on the field performance and his personality.

[TruffleShuffle]

guys, stop feeding the troll. i'm pretty sure that nothing we post can change his mind about anything or make him any less insane.

[cubstitlelives]

The fact that he wasn't close to good

 

That's not a fact at all.

 

Oh, but it is. Has Milton Bradley performed above or below expectations? Heck, he's well below his career norms, which ends this debate right now.

[Keener98]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

 

Noone in the Cubs organization is going to come out and really speak their true feelings on this situation right now. If they think the suspension is BS, they arent going to admit it. Its going to be all company speak.

[inari]

The fact that he wasn't close to good

 

That's not a fact at all.

 

Oh, but it is. Has Milton Bradley performed above or below expectations? Heck, he's well below his career norms, which ends this debate right now.

 

It really doesn't. Milton Bradley, on the field, was okay. There's no way around that.

[SouthSideRyan]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

 

Len gave a much more reasoned take on the Bradley situation, and basically clammed up when Brenly went on his cubstitle-esque rant.

[inari]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

 

Noone in the Cubs organization is going to come out and really speak their true feelings on this situation right now. If they think the suspension is BS, they arent going to admit it. Its going to be all company speak.

 

Sure sounds like Brenly spoke his mind plenty.

[Keener98]

Why does Bradley not get as big of a leash as Z? Because of his past. The multiple times he had confrontations with managers/GM's/announcers etc. The legal troubles. The troubles with MLB with certain incidents. Bradley's got at least one of the top 3 most checkered histories in the entire league, and that doesn't all get washed away when he becomes a Cub. The Cubs were willing to give him another chance, but that doesn't mean he gets as much as Z who doesn't have nearly the history that Bradley does.

 

And because of that history you'd think the Cubs would be prepared for this kind of thing. That they'd take the proper steps both to prevent incidents from happening, along with giving him some leeway when they do happen. If you aren't willing to do that, then you don't sign the guy. It looks like as usual, Hendry took the best season from a player and assumed he would continue at that pace, this time both his on the field performance and his personality.

 

Yup and Bradley started out the season not wanting to talk to the media, just so he could avoid this [expletive]. Guess who made him talk to the media? Yup good ol Jimbo and Lou.

[cubstitlelives]

Len said Milton knew what he wasn't getting himslef into with the intense media, etc. He's never seen a situation blow up quite like this.

[Keener98]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

 

Noone in the Cubs organization is going to come out and really speak their true feelings on this situation right now. If they think the suspension is BS, they arent going to admit it. Its going to be all company speak.

 

Sure sounds like Brenly spoke his mind plenty.

 

 

Right, because he was in the same opinion of Hendry. Noone is going to speak out against it is what I was meaning.

[cubstitlelives]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

 

Noone in the Cubs organization is going to come out and really speak their true feelings on this situation right now. If they think the suspension is BS, they arent going to admit it. Its going to be all company speak.

 

Sure sounds like Brenly spoke his mind plenty.

 

 

Right, because he was in the same opinion of Hendry. Noone is going to speak out against it is what I was meaning.

 

If they spoke agains't it, they'd be telling lies.

[inari]

Did Len have anything to add about the situation? I'd be more interested to hear his opinion.

 

Noone in the Cubs organization is going to come out and really speak their true feelings on this situation right now. If they think the suspension is BS, they arent going to admit it. Its going to be all company speak.

 

Sure sounds like Brenly spoke his mind plenty.

 

 

Right, because he was in the same opinion of Hendry. Noone is going to speak out against it is what I was meaning.

 

If they spoke agains't it, they'd be telling lies.

 

Yep, everyone who disagrees with it is lying to themselves. Come on.

[Sammy Sofa]

The fact that he wasn't close to good

 

That's not a fact at all.

 

Oh, but it is. Has Milton Bradley performed above or below expectations? Heck, he's well below his career norms, which ends this debate right now.

 

And yet that still makes him a productive player.

[A-Cal]

so wait, do people think the suspension is BS because he shouldn't have been or because of the public fashion it was executed in?

[cubstitlelives]

Yep, everyone who disagrees with it is lying to themselves. Come on.

 

How is that his own teammates have basically called him a douche if they really didn't feel that way? His teammates let him have it. This is not some conspiracy agains't poor Milty.

[Keener98]

so wait, do people think the suspension is BS because he shouldn't have been or because of the public fashion it was executed in?

 

I dont think anything he said deserved being suspended for, and I also dont like the public fashion it was executed in. Also dont like that Hendry himself, admitted it was a knee jerk reaction. I also dont like the precedent they are setting. For now on if anyone speaks out on city, fans, ect... they better be suspended. But go ahead and punch a teammate, or get in a very public verbal argument with your manager, all that stuff is ok. Just dont talk bad about the city or the fans.

Edited September 22, 2009 by Keener98

[inari]

Yep, everyone who disagrees with it is lying to themselves. Come on.

 

How is that his own teammates have basically called him a douche if they really didn't feel that way? His teammates let him have it. This is not some conspiracy agains't poor Milty.

 

I don't think that's a fair description of what his teammates said. I agree with this suspension, I just think your arguments and reasoning are mind numbing.