Bradley Suspended for the Rest of the Season

[Keener98]

If all that stuff is true on top of everything else this year, I'm not sure how people can still say they didn't have to suspend him.

 

How long was Carlos Zambrano suspended for punching his own teammate? In my opinion Z's actions over the last few years have been a hell of alot worse than anything Bradley has said or done. Yet Jim Hendry hasnt done a damn thing to Z. Bradley is being used as a scapegoat, and had he been putting up numbers all year, and the Cubs werent way out of it, not a damn thing would have been done to Bradley. Hendry is trying to satisfy the [expletive] fans of this teams, and take the attention away from this [expletive] team, and his horrible off season.

 

no zambrano has not

 

i don't think anyone has ever offered any quote referencing Z not contributing to a positive team atmosphere

 

 

Cause Zambrano's still on the team? Zambrano's had heat with his teammates and his manager in public. He had his questionable injury this year. Where's Z's suspension?

 

you really think zambrano is in the same league as bradley in this situation?

 

this situation is amazing, i can't believe some of the connections and thoughts coming forth

 

Has Bradley physically assaulted a teammate to our knowledge? Has Bradley showed up after signing a big contract out of shape, which made him land on the DL? Has Bradley had an argument with his manager on the field? Has Bradley constantly showed up teammates when they make an error? Has Bradley heaved a baseball almost into the bleachers after being kicked out of a game? Z's actions the last few years have been alot worse than what Bradley has done.

[KingCubsFan]

 

I 100% believe Hendry is doing this to appease the fans, and take the attention away from himself, and his horrible off-season, and away from this teams horrible season.

How does this do anything but turn the attention back to the Cubs and Hendry? 3 days ago, they were just playing out the string of games, people had gotten over the fact that they were terrible this year, and the city was focused on Urlacher's injury and whether Jay Cutler can win a game. Now he's brought a lot of that attention back to the Cubs and writers around the country are once again bringing up the Cubs' horrible season. Bradley insulted the organization as a whole, as well as the rest of his teammates, so Hendry did what he felt was necessary.

 

Because now Bradley can definitely be used as the scapegoat, and the bad chemistry plus injuries can now be used why the Cubs underperformed. All the focus is on Bradley now, and off the performance of the team.

Bradley was going to be the scapegoat regardless of what he said. He should have realized it and not said anything. Instead he alienated most of his remaining supporters.

[SouthSideRyan]

Keep waiting one of Cubstitle's images to be Bradley hanging from a tree.

[OleMissCub]

Keep waiting one of Cubstitle's images to be Bradley hanging from a tree.

 

you are really twisted sometimes

[Keener98]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

[SouthSideRyan]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

He hurt Cubs fans feelings do I have to draw you a picture?

 

ETA: I see the end of Zambrano's career being similar to the end of Sammy's. All a sudden the stories will come out about how disruptive he was, how great it was to not have to worry about a locker room divided. Nobody shovels dirt on the grave of a former player like the Cubs.

Edited September 22, 2009 by SouthSideRyan

[cubstitlelives]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0499/9781/88822_feature.jpg

 

"I'm a good fielder, really."

[A-Cal]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

i still find it funny that you believe this nonsense

[Keener98]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

i still find it funny that you believe this nonsense

 

Good reasoning I see your point, and you have converted me...Oh wait no you havent. I listed just a few of Z's childish ass behaviors he has had as a Cub, and they are far worse than Bradley hurting Cubs fans feelings.

[CubColtPacer]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

Even if there is a good comparison there (and I really don't know about it since you're compiling all of Z's questionable actions over the course of years while Bradley's have come over a few months) Bradley isn't going to get the same sort of leash as Z and he really doesn't deserve that long of a leash.

[SouthSideRyan]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

He hurt Cubs fans feelings do I have to draw you a picture?

 

ETA: I see the end of Zambrano's career being similar to the end of Sammy's. All a sudden the stories will come out about how disruptive he was, how great it was to not have to worry about a locker room divided. Nobody shovels dirt on the grave of a former player like the Cubs.

 

Point being Zambrano's idiosynchracies are put up with because he's done well. Bradley didn't do well(though not nearly as bad as the buffoons would have you believe), thus he's a cancer that must go. Zambrano's more personable and presumably has some friends on the team. Milton made connections with Gathright and Gerald Perry. Both were removed and following that he distanced himself from the rest of the team.

 

 

Both guys are passionate and play their asses off when on the field. Both get emotional when things don't go their way.

[Keener98]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

Even if there is a good comparison there (and I really don't know about it since you're compiling all of Z's questionable actions over the course of years while Bradley's have come over a few months) Bradley isn't going to get the same sort of leash as Z and he really doesn't deserve that long of a leash.

 

So its ok to be a dick and act like a child numerous times over the course of 3-5 years, but its not ok to be a dick a couple times in 1 season because he hasnt endeared himself to the Cubbie faithful? Not sure I agree with that

 

Im not quite sure how Z could deserve a longer leash, when he has shown repeatedly hes going to do what he wants. Punch teammates, throw balls toward the crowd, be out of shape, etc.....I dont see how Bradley as done anything near as bad as some of the [expletive] Z has, and fans look at it as Z being passionate.

Edited September 22, 2009 by Keener98

[CUBZ99]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

i still find it funny that you believe this nonsense

 

Good reasoning I see your point, and you have converted me...Oh wait no you havent. I listed just a few of Z's childish ass behaviors he has had as a Cub, and they are far worse than Bradley hurting Cubs fans feelings.

 

Zambrano's beating of Barrett was considered one of the turning points for the 2007 season. Maybe if Bradley had beaten up Aaron Miles and the Cubs went on a winning streak he would been a fan favorite?

 

In all seriousness though, who is to say that Zambrano isn't on his way out of town?

[Keener98]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

i still find it funny that you believe this nonsense

 

Good reasoning I see your point, and you have converted me...Oh wait no you havent. I listed just a few of Z's childish ass behaviors he has had as a Cub, and they are far worse than Bradley hurting Cubs fans feelings.

 

Zambrano's beating of Barrett was considered one of the turning points for the 2007 season. Maybe if Bradley had beaten up Aaron Miles and the Cubs went on a winning streak he would been a fan favorite?

 

In all seriousness though, who is to say that Zambrano isn't on his way out of town?

 

Maybe Z is heading out of town, but you havent seen him ever get suspended by the team for his actions have you? Thats my question, why not? Because Z has performed well at times and has the backing of many of the "Cubbie faithful" unlike Bradley.

[cubstitlelives]

I don't like Soriano as a player, but I respect him because he gets it and is a stand up guy. I have more respect for him now after what he said below:

 

The mood in the Cubs' clubhouse was jovial Monday before they played the Milwaukee Brewers. Players were measuring each other against a door frame to figure out their real heights instead of what's listed in the team's media guide.

 

Alfonso Soriano, who is out for the season after arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, got a big welcome from his teammates when he came in after being away from the team the last few days.

 

Soriano said he didn't know the specifics about Bradley, but understands how tough the hometown fans can be.

 

"If they boo, that's because they want the team to do good. If you're doing good, they don't want to boo nobody. If you're doing bad, maybe they get frustrated and they boo. That's the way I see it," Soriano said. "The fans are great, but you have to play good. You have to play for them."

[VVMattVV]

this is how i deal with cubs related grief

 

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/madhops_42/cubsmag2.jpg

 

amazing

[inari]

I don't like Soriano as a player, but I respect him because he gets it and is a stand up guy. I have more respect for him now after what he said below:

 

The mood in the Cubs' clubhouse was jovial Monday before they played the Milwaukee Brewers. Players were measuring each other against a door frame to figure out their real heights instead of what's listed in the team's media guide.

 

Alfonso Soriano, who is out for the season after arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, got a big welcome from his teammates when he came in after being away from the team the last few days.

 

Soriano said he didn't know the specifics about Bradley, but understands how tough the hometown fans can be.

 

"If they boo, that's because they want the team to do good. If you're doing good, they don't want to boo nobody. If you're doing bad, maybe they get frustrated and they boo. That's the way I see it," Soriano said. "The fans are great, but you have to play good. You have to play for them."

 

Do you not like Milton Bradley?

[Keener98]

Heh, even when Bradley was tearing the cover off the ball after the All Star break, if he went 3-4 the Cubs fans would boo that 1 out he made. But yea at least now no other player will say a negative thing about the idiots at Wrigley, because suspensions will be forthcoming. Well unless you have had a really good season, or have played here for a few years, then you can do what you want(See Carlos Zambrano).

[CUBZ99]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

i still find it funny that you believe this nonsense

 

Good reasoning I see your point, and you have converted me...Oh wait no you havent. I listed just a few of Z's childish ass behaviors he has had as a Cub, and they are far worse than Bradley hurting Cubs fans feelings.

 

Zambrano's beating of Barrett was considered one of the turning points for the 2007 season. Maybe if Bradley had beaten up Aaron Miles and the Cubs went on a winning streak he would been a fan favorite?

 

In all seriousness though, who is to say that Zambrano isn't on his way out of town?

 

Maybe Z is heading out of town, but you havent seen him ever get suspended by the team for his actions have you? Thats my question, why not? Because Z has performed well at times and has the backing of many of the "Cubbie faithful" unlike Bradley.

 

Len and Bob just broke the situation down pretty well.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

PREACH IT JOE!

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9559

 

i agree with a lot of his points, but the piling on by his teammates is pretty damning, and joe didn't touch on that at all.

 

I think the only thing that was damning was Dempster's comments. The rest were pretty tame and expected considering they were talking about a guy who was just punished by their boss. Were they supposed to say, "man Hendry's a [expletive] idiot"

 

And it was put together by Sullivan.

[inari]

Len and Bob just broke the situation down pretty well.

 

For those of us without WCIU, what'd they say?

[CubColtPacer]

Im still waiting to hear how Bradleys actions have been any worse than what Carlos Zambrano has done in his career as a Cub.

 

Even if there is a good comparison there (and I really don't know about it since you're compiling all of Z's questionable actions over the course of years while Bradley's have come over a few months) Bradley isn't going to get the same sort of leash as Z and he really doesn't deserve that long of a leash.

 

So its ok to be a dick and act like a child numerous times over the course of 3-5 years, but its not ok to be a dick a couple times in 1 season because he hasnt endeared himself to the Cubbie faithful? Not sure I agree with that

 

Im not quite sure how Z could deserve a longer leash, when he has shown repeatedly hes going to do what he wants. Punch teammates, throw balls toward the crowd, be out of shape, etc.....I dont see how Bradley as done anything near as bad as some of the [expletive] Z has, and fans look at it as Z being passionate.

 

The point about the things occurring over years is that if you space out your stupid things, then it might never be quite bad enough to get you suspended because you earn some credit back in between. That's part of what has happened to Z who has been close a couple of times but then apologizes and behaves for a while.

 

Why does Bradley not get as big of a leash as Z? Because of his past. The multiple times he had confrontations with managers/GM's/announcers etc. The legal troubles. The troubles with MLB with certain incidents. Bradley's got at least one of the top 3 most checkered histories in the entire league, and that doesn't all get washed away when he becomes a Cub. The Cubs were willing to give him another chance, but that doesn't mean he gets as much as Z who doesn't have nearly the history that Bradley does.

 

Also, what SSR said was right. At times, the Cubs have put up with Z because they needed him so badly (especially after the fight with Barrett, which is probably the one time that Z should have been suspended). They also haven't done anything with Z because it didn't hurt business to not do anything. With Bradley, they both don't need him nearly as much as Z and he has continued to make comments about the fans and organization.

[cubstitlelives]

I don't like Soriano as a player, but I respect him because he gets it and is a stand up guy. I have more respect for him now after what he said below:

 

The mood in the Cubs' clubhouse was jovial Monday before they played the Milwaukee Brewers. Players were measuring each other against a door frame to figure out their real heights instead of what's listed in the team's media guide.

 

Alfonso Soriano, who is out for the season after arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, got a big welcome from his teammates when he came in after being away from the team the last few days.

 

Soriano said he didn't know the specifics about Bradley, but understands how tough the hometown fans can be.

 

"If they boo, that's because they want the team to do good. If you're doing good, they don't want to boo nobody. If you're doing bad, maybe they get frustrated and they boo. That's the way I see it," Soriano said. "The fans are great, but you have to play good. You have to play for them."

 

Do you not like Milton Bradley?

 

No, I don't. I didn't like Alou either but he performed, so you learned to live with it. Milton Bradley, as Bob Brenly just said: "Did absolutely nothing to help the Cubs on or off the field."

 

If Milton had performed, most of what he has done would be a non issue. He's run his mouth way too much for a mediocre, bust player.

[Keener98]

Im not watching the game as I dont get WCIU, and well because Im watching football, but Id love to hear Brenlys completely 100% unbiased reactions...... Im sure its a 100% non meat head response

[Sammy Sofa]

Im not watching the game as I dont get WCIU, and well because Im watching football, but Id love to hear Brenlys completely 100% unbiased reactions...... Im sure its a 100% non meat head response

 

He basically flat-out said that Bradley contributed nothing offensively this year.