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Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy and call it an awful trade.

 

 

Lillibridge is garbage. Floyd is fluky garbage, and Poreda's a decent prospect.

 

I mean, what's the equivalent trade for the Cubs? Aaron Miles, Sean Marshall, and Jay Jackson?

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also, keep in mind that it wasn't Hendry who nixed the deal for Peavy. Towers backed out of it at the last second.

Huh? Everything I read said Hendry just didn't want to pay as much as was on the table.

 

I was under the impression the deal couldn't go through primarily because the Trib wouldn't take on that kind of contract in the middle of the sale. The secondary factor was Towers continuing to add extra players to the deal at the last minute (I think the breaking point might have been Angel Guzman).

 

I thought there was a deal on the table that Hendry didn't want to take, and then shortly after that the trib instructed them to put any sort of deal on the backburner due to the ownership issues.

 

I think Towers' jacked up demands strung Hendry along enough for the Trib to pull the plug. I do remember a deal basically being complete and then Towers deciding he wanted Angel as well and that pissed off Hendry.

 

It was likely a combination of money issues and Towers asking for too much.

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lol...Williams gets this done in hours and Hendry can't do a damn thing in weeks and let's us down..Just like in the past, we couldve gotten good players when everyone wanted Hill and Pie, and look now, they got traded for nothing...Im sure we couldve got him for Vitters and a few other guys but Hendry is to scared to trade guys with no major league experience or thinks itll be a mistake in the future and it always pans out being his fault because hes to scared to pull the trigger
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Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy and call it an awful trade.

 

 

Lillibridge is garbage. Floyd is fluky garbage, and Poreda's a decent prospect.

 

I mean, what's the equivalent trade for the Cubs? Aaron Miles, Sean Marshall, and Jay Jackson?

 

Yes, Jay Jackson and Poreda are the same?

Yes, Floyd and Marshall are the same?

Yes, Miles and Lillibridge are the same?

 

 

Are you serious or just trying to be cute and witty to seem smarter than everyone?

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lol...Williams gets this done in hours and Hendry can't do a damn thing in weeks and let's us down..Just like in the past, we couldve gotten good players when everyone wanted Hill and Pie, and look now, they got traded for nothing...Im sure we couldve got him for Vitters and a few other guys but Hendry is to scared to trade guys with no major league experience or thinks itll be a mistake in the future and it always pans out being his fault because hes to scared to pull the trigger

 

This sounds like a lot less than Towers was asking from Hendry.

 

I'm not sure there's a Josh Vitters-type prospect in this deal (unless Gordon Beckham is indeed involved).

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Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy and call it an awful trade.

 

 

Lillibridge is garbage. Floyd is fluky garbage, and Poreda's a decent prospect.

 

I mean, what's the equivalent trade for the Cubs? Aaron Miles, Sean Marshall, and Jay Jackson?

 

Yes, Jay Jackson and Poreda are the same?

Yes, Floyd and Marshall are the same?

Yes, Miles and Lillibridge are the same?

 

 

Are you serious or just trying to cute and witty to seem smarter than everyone?

 

Poreda is clearly better than Jackson, but the Cubs don't have a pitching propsect on his level.

 

Marshall is better than Floyd.

 

Brent Lillibridge and Aaron Miles are both terrible baseball players, Miles just costs more. I can't believe you're honestly proposing Lillibridge as a serious part of a trade package.

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I dont know if theyve approached Peavy yet, but I have to believe that he'll at least want Towers to try to see if one of his prefered teams will match the offer. I remember him saying that if he had to go to the AL, hed [refer the Angels, and theyve already shown interest.
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lol...Williams gets this done in hours and Hendry can't do a damn thing in weeks and let's us down..Just like in the past, we couldve gotten good players when everyone wanted Hill and Pie, and look now, they got traded for nothing...Im sure we couldve got him for Vitters and a few other guys but Hendry is to scared to trade guys with no major league experience or thinks itll be a mistake in the future and it always pans out being his fault because hes to scared to pull the trigger

 

I think it has more to do with the sale of the Cubs, not Hendry pulling the trigger.

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WSI sure seems to this this is already done. Apparently Linebrink has been convincing Peavy all day to come here and the Padres have apparently pulled down his framed jersey in front of their ballpark according to SD radio.
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Brent Lillibridge and Aaron Miles are both terrible baseball players, Miles just costs more. I can't believe you're honestly proposing Lillibridge as a serious part of a trade package.

 

Lillibridge really hasn't been productive save for his 22-year-old season in the minors. OPS isn't a great way to judge prospects, I know, but a career .773 OPS doesn't inspire confidence.

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Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy and call it an awful trade.

 

 

Lillibridge is garbage. Floyd is fluky garbage, and Poreda's a decent prospect.

 

I mean, what's the equivalent trade for the Cubs? Aaron Miles, Sean Marshall, and Jay Jackson?

 

Yes, Jay Jackson and Poreda are the same?

Yes, Floyd and Marshall are the same?

Yes, Miles and Lillibridge are the same?

 

 

Are you serious or just trying to cute and witty to seem smarter than everyone?

 

Poreda is clearly better than Jackson, but the Cubs don't have a pitching propsect on his level.

 

Marshall is better than Floyd.

 

Brent Lillibridge and Aaron Miles are both terrible baseball players, Miles just costs more. I can't believe you're honestly proposing Lillibridge as a serious part of a trade package.

 

Marshall isn't better than Floyd despite the struggles this year of Floyd, Lillibridge isn't meant as a key piece rather than more of a roster fit. The trade obviously revolves around Poreda and whomever the 2nd starter is (whether it's Richard, etc.) the PTBNL are just that and not likely something of much value beyond the worst valued player among the likely list of players SD will send to the Sox.

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Does Peavy keep the "No Trade Clause" through the remainder of the contract even if he is dealt this year to another team? Does he keep it for the remainder of the contract or once he waives it, it's gone for good?

 

The reason I ask is because if he waives the NTC completely (for the remainder of the contract), this could be a great trade for the White Sox or any team that gets him. You're basically getting a great pitcher early in the season that could be traded AGAIN nearer to the deadline in July when teams get desperate, thus getting back a better package than you gave up. You could also trade him in the off season or next year, again, getting more than you gave up.

 

Basically why GMs are the same as real estate investors.

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This seems like less than what the brewers gave up for sabathia as well. The sox also get to keep peavy.

 

Poreda and Richard were the Sox 2 top pitching prospects. Laporta and Gamel never had any business in the same organization to begin with.

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Gavin Floyd sucks, just thought I'd point that out.

 

This year, sure he does. Over his career, he'll end up as a flaky #3 starter which is more than I expect from Marshall.

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Gavin Floyd has a fluky 19 Unearned Runs last year, artificially propping up his ERA. He's really not very good. I'd take Marshall 10 times out of 10 over him. Marshall has the better minor league and major league history. Floyd has been nothing special over the past 5 years or so.
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Is it really Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy? The Padres can do better than that.
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Is it really Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy? The Padres can do better than that.

 

I heard a number of offers tossed around by the Cubs in the offseason that could probably top it.

 

Though O_O mentioned on the last page that it was Poreda, Richard and two PTBNLs. It was then mentioned Beckham would not be one of them.

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Is it really Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy? The Padres can do better than that.

 

What a joke. Eff Hendry if this is the deal that get's done. That's like Marshall, Wells, and Fontenot.

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Another reason I don't want this to happen is because living in the southside I am going to hear about it from every damn Sox fan
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Is it really Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy? The Padres can do better than that.

 

What a joke. Eff Hendry if this is the deal that get's done. That's like Marshall, Wells, and Fontenot.

 

Yahoo seems to think it's Poreda, Richard, and two other pitching prospects. No infielders.

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Is it really Poreda, Lillibridge, and Floyd for Peavy? The Padres can do better than that.

 

No, it's something I speculated as to what it might be similar to.

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