Cubs acquire Kevin Gregg for Jose Ceda

[erik316wttn]

This is brutal. Jim Hendry sucks again.

 

He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man.

 

Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column.

[SouthSideRyan]

This is going to piss me off so much more when we give Dempster 4 years 55 million

 

That's the thing. Wood has been a great pitcher whenever he's been healthy. The bullpen role seems to suit him well. I can understand if he is now looking for, and likely to get 4 years somewhere. But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery.

 

Bad Haray Caray impersonations are worth 4M/Year

[XZero771679666304]

If Wood is leaving it really sucks, but at the same time it isn't shocking. Kerry couldn't really sign for less than 7-8 million per, and the Cubs have Marmol in waiting (though I'd rather he remain in his current role).

 

I love Kerry and it will be difficult to reconcile with the sight of him in another uniform, but signing him at near market value for 3-4 years given his injury history would be foolish at best.

[Rusch33]

This is going to piss me off so much more when we give Dempster 4 years 55 million

 

But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery.

 

And Kerry Wood's always been as healthy as an ox.

[RedFlash]

Minor league relief pitchers rarely have trade value. #4 Cubs prospect or not, I don't see him as being a deal breaker in any potential trade.

 

Exactly. If Ceda had potential to start then this is a bad trade, but I see this as the Cubs trading future Kevin Gregg type reliever for the present Kevin Gregg. The only thing that sucks is the cost, but that offset by him becoming a FA after next season. So I don't know why people are upset about Ceda/Gregg deal, it's a blah deal no doubt.

[C.C.]

EPIC FAIL!

[YearofDaCubs]

Jesse Rogers on the radio is now saying he's hearing that Hendry said Wood is done in Chicago and that's why the trade was made.

 

Jesse Rogers is a sensationalist hack.

He's not the only one reporting it though. Looks like Wood is done here. Either Wood had crazy demands or Hendry got the word from upstairs to not sign free agents.

[mdwilla]

I don't see Wood leaving unless he's getting offers from Arizona Houston,Texas and I don't think either of those three are really in the market.

Kevin Gregg Just replaced Bob Howry.

 

Cotts

Gaudin

Wuertz

Gregg

Marmol

Wood

 

Shark is back at Iowa Starting.

[mul21]

I love Kerry Wood, I really do - but is this really such a bad transaction?

 

Wood is probably going to get what, around $7-10 million a year? Would he get that much as a setup guy? Moving Marmol to the closer role or putting Gregg there for $3-5 million isn't such a bad idea if you are going to be dishing out to get another 1-2 starter and maybe a resigning one.

 

If we land Peavy and Dempster....

 

If this is what ends up happening, I don't think there can be a whole lot of complaining. Saves money and doesn't tie up a bunch of cash in a guy who, while we all have some emotional attachment to, hasn't gone through 2 consecutive full seasons being healthy since 2002-2003.

 

If Gregg is either spun to the Padres or used as the closer with Marmol as the fireman, I don't see the big issue with the deal. Set up guys, especially ones in AA, are pretty darn replaceable pieces, especially if you get 2 picks for Wood and another 2 picks when Gregg walks after next year.

[erik316wttn]

If Wood is leaving it really sucks, but at the same time it isn't shocking. Kerry couldn't really sign for less than 7-8 million per, and the Cubs have Marmol in waiting (though I'd rather he remain in his current role).

 

I love Kerry and it will be difficult to reconcile with the sight of him in another uniform, but signing him at near market value for 3-4 years given his injury history would be foolish at best.

 

Wood at 3/24 would still be a better bet than Demp at 4/55. At least Wood has had more than one season of success in his career.

[UMFan83]

Don't worry guys, Larry will fix him...just like Marquis. I say we sign him to a long term extension immediately.

[UMFan83]

If Wood is leaving it really sucks, but at the same time it isn't shocking. Kerry couldn't really sign for less than 7-8 million per, and the Cubs have Marmol in waiting (though I'd rather he remain in his current role).

 

I love Kerry and it will be difficult to reconcile with the sight of him in another uniform, but signing him at near market value for 3-4 years given his injury history would be foolish at best.

 

Wood at 3/24 would still be a better bet than Demp at 4/55. At least Wood has had more than one season of success in his career.

 

I don't think Wood wants 3 years though, he wants 4 or 5, plus $8 million is too much for a 1 inning guy IMO.

[Butterscup1679666578]

So we're losing our quality closer.

To replace him, we're taking our best relief pitcher out of the most important role we have in the pen (a shutdown guy) and we're only going to use him in the 9th.

To replace our best shutdown guy, we traded a promising prospect for an average reliever.

 

What a great day. I can't wait til we sign Dempster to a 5/$70M contract tonight.

[jersey cubs fan]

I see $2.5m thrown around for Gregg and I don't get it. He made $2.5m last year, but he's arbitration eligible and in his last year before free agency. Mariano Rivera was about to make $10m in arbitration in his final year of arbitration before free agency, only he signed a 4-year deal.

 

Hendry hands out multi-year contracts to relievers like they are candy and Gregg is coming off back to back closer seasons, which will inflate his price. Is there anyway he gets less than $5m this year? 3 years $12-18m is a very real possibility.

[SouthSideRyan]

Jesse Rogers on the radio is now saying he's hearing that Hendry said Wood is done in Chicago and that's why the trade was made.

 

Jesse Rogers is a sensationalist hack.

He's not the only one reporting it though. Looks like Wood is done here. Either Wood had crazy demands or Hendry got the word from upstairs to not sign free agents.

 

My comment had nothing to with what he was reporting. Just thought it should be pointed out.

[cubsfan26]

This is brutal. Jim Hendry sucks again.

 

He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man.

 

Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column.

 

 

If Wood gets hurt next season, and another team is paying him 10m per season for three seasons, this move will no longer suck. I been reading this board for years, and I just remember many of these same posters laughing at other teams for paying relievers 10m per season. Now since it Kerry Wood, everybody is upset and bashing Hendry.

[erik316wttn]

So we're losing our quality closer.

To replace him, we're taking our best relief pitcher out of the most important role we have in the pen (a shutdown guy) and we're only going to use him in the 9th.

To replace our best shutdown guy, we traded a promising prospect for an average reliever.

 

What a great day. I can't wait til we sign Dempster to a 5/$70M contract tonight.

 

More Hendry magic.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is going to piss me off so much more when we give Dempster 4 years 55 million

 

But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery.

 

And Kerry Wood's always been as healthy as an ox.

 

I never said that. Wood is being shown the door because of his track record, yet Dempster may be returning despite what is not a good track record.

[Rusch33]

This is brutal. Jim Hendry sucks again.

 

He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man.

 

Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column.

 

 

If Wood gets hurt next season, and another team is paying him 10m per season for three seasons, this move will no longer suck. I been reading this board for years, and I just remember many of these same posters laughing at other teams for paying relievers 10m per season. Now since it Kerry Wood, everybody is upset and bashing Hendry.

 

I don't think the question is if, but more when.

[XZero771679666304]

If Wood is leaving it really sucks, but at the same time it isn't shocking. Kerry couldn't really sign for less than 7-8 million per, and the Cubs have Marmol in waiting (though I'd rather he remain in his current role).

 

I love Kerry and it will be difficult to reconcile with the sight of him in another uniform, but signing him at near market value for 3-4 years given his injury history would be foolish at best.

 

Wood at 3/24 would still be a better bet than Demp at 4/55. At least Wood has had more than one season of success in his career.

 

Wood will get offers for 3-4 years @10-11, I'll bet.

 

It is upsetting, but I'd let him go before trying to compete with such offers.

 

And success isn't the issue here. It's health. Dempster isn't exactly the picture of health, but he's a lot less iffy than Wood.

 

And for the record, I am no fan of re-signing Ryan for those terms, either. But categorizing Hendry letting Wood go as a screw up would be a bit knee jerk.

[Old Style]

Wood at 3/24 would still be a better bet than Demp at 4/55. At least Wood has had more than one season of success in his career.

Hasn't Dempster been an All-Star twice?

[SouthSideRyan]

Hendry hands out multi-year contracts to relievers like they are candy and Gregg is coming off back to back closer seasons, which will inflate his price. Is there anyway he gets less than $5m this year? 3 years $12-18m is a very real possibility.

 

Oh [expletive], he's going to do that rip up the contract sign him for 3 years thing isn't he. [expletive] THIS

[Butterscup1679666578]

Now that I've gone completely crazy, I'm coming back a bit.

 

My friend brought this up. I doubt it's what Hendry is doing but I thought I'd mention it here.

 

Any chance of Hendry planning on flipping Gregg to SD in a Peavy deal? They need a closer. Maybe Hendry is saying Wood is gone for some sort of leverage? (I don't know leverage on what, my friend just mentioned the idea)

[bukie]

I hate, hate, hate trading for bullpen arms. The return of investment on doing so is rarely positive.

[mul21]

This is brutal. Jim Hendry sucks again.

 

He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man.

 

Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column.

 

You'd rather have him handcuff the payroll further by giving an oft-injured closer a 4 year $40 million deal?

 

And what's with the Dempster injury stuff? He had TJS 5 years ago and hasn't had any issues whatsoever since. I can see doubting he can reproduce his production from last year but the injury stuff is way off.