Jake Peavy: Available.

[rawaction]

More on the Cubs and Peavy in the Daily Herald:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=245654

 

The Padres called, the Cubs said they're interested, and it's a possibility.

According to a West Coast source, the Cubs are the Padres' best option for a trade partner if for no other reason than they're not the Dodgers, who are Peavy's first choice, and they're not the Braves, who at this point are saying they won't deal their best prospects.

 

Peavy, Zambrano, Harden, Lilly, Me would be the best rotation ever.

 

The Cubs have the positions the Padres need to fill. But I question if the talent the Cubs likely have available is good enough. They are looking for a CF, Middle IF, Catcher, and pitching (starting or relief). I would trade Pie, Cedeno, Castillo, Marshall, and Ceda for Peavy (and another player/prospect). But none of those players project to be stars. You'd think for a star like Peavy, SD would at least want a star quality prospect, which the Cubs don't have.

[17 Seconds]

The Padres would be better off hanging onto Peavy than trading him to the Cubs.

[Sammy Sofa]

More on the Cubs and Peavy in the Daily Herald:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=245654

 

The Padres called, the Cubs said they're interested, and it's a possibility.

According to a West Coast source, the Cubs are the Padres' best option for a trade partner if for no other reason than they're not the Dodgers, who are Peavy's first choice, and they're not the Braves, who at this point are saying they won't deal their best prospects.

 

Peavy, Zambrano, Harden, Lilly, Me would be the best rotation ever.

 

The Cubs have the positions the Padres need to fill. But I question if the talent the Cubs likely have available is good enough. They are looking for a CF, Middle IF, Catcher, and pitching (starting or relief). I would trade Pie, Cedeno, Castillo, Marshall, and Ceda for Peavy (and another player/prospect). But none of those players project to be stars. You'd think for a star like Peavy, SD would at least want a star quality prospect, which the Cubs don't have.

 

Which brings us to the logical conclusion that the Padres won't trade Peavy in the offseason, because they don't have to.

[UMFan83]

Yeah I can't see the Padres trading Peavy, despite everything that's been said, unless they are overwhelmed with an offer. They certainly need talent, but Peavy is on a very friendly deal. They should be able to get a lot for him. I would still put the Cubs chances of getting him at less than 5%, and I would still say the Braves are the clear favorite if the Padres trade him.

[Jehrico]

More on the Cubs and Peavy in the Daily Herald:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=245654

 

The Padres called, the Cubs said they're interested, and it's a possibility.

According to a West Coast source, the Cubs are the Padres' best option for a trade partner if for no other reason than they're not the Dodgers, who are Peavy's first choice, and they're not the Braves, who at this point are saying they won't deal their best prospects.

 

Peavy, Zambrano, Harden, Lilly, Me would be the best rotation ever.

 

The Cubs have the positions the Padres need to fill. But I question if the talent the Cubs likely have available is good enough. They are looking for a CF, Middle IF, Catcher, and pitching (starting or relief). I would trade Pie, Cedeno, Castillo, Marshall, and Ceda for Peavy (and another player/prospect). But none of those players project to be stars. You'd think for a star like Peavy, SD would at least want a star quality prospect, which the Cubs don't have.

 

Which brings us to the logical conclusion that the Padres won't trade Peavy in the offseason, because they don't have to.

Under any other circumstances, it would appear Peavy is untradable. However, SD is in a peculiar situation...if they absolutely must shred payroll because of the ownerships divorce, and he'll only go to a few teams, and the others have taken themselves in the pool, we could get lucky (EXTREMELY lucky). However, I think the Braves, if they're willing to take on his salary, could probably better any deal that we could put forth without giving up one of their premier prospects that they've said they wouldn't part with. We do have a chance at pulling this off, but our chances aren't much better than that of winning the lotto. It depends heavily on how badly the owners want to shed payroll in light of this divorce, and if either has any plans of hanging onto the franchise after the divorce is concluded.

[mordecaibrown]

The only way the Cubs could even enter talks for Peavy would start with Marmol or Soto. If you are willing to give either one up then you can seriously talk trade. The Padres will not take Cubs leftovers for Peavy.

[Bote McBoteface]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

[Jehrico]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

Would you do Soto and Lee for Peavy and Gonzalez?

[jersey cubs fan]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

 

They did just draft a college closer who probably has very little chance of succeeding in the starting rotation. Cashner could provide a significant amount of bullpen help if Marmol is dealt.

[Outshined_One]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

 

They did just draft a college closer who probably has very little chance of succeeding in the starting rotation. Cashner could provide a significant amount of bullpen help if Marmol is dealt.

 

Not to mention there are some decent relief options out there in free agency.

 

I don't see Cashner breaking with the team in Spring Training, but he definitely could be a September callup next season if the Cubs keep him as a reliever.

[rawaction]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

 

They did just draft a college closer who probably has very little chance of succeeding in the starting rotation. Cashner could provide a significant amount of bullpen help if Marmol is dealt.

 

Not to mention there are some decent relief options out there in free agency.

 

I don't see Cashner breaking with the team in Spring Training, but he definitely could be a September callup next season if the Cubs keep him as a reliever.

 

Yeah, I love Marmol, but I'd give him up for an elite pitcher or hitter. Peavy is an elite pitcher. I can't think of any logical deal I'd make that trades away Geovany Soto.

[jersey cubs fan]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

 

They did just draft a college closer who probably has very little chance of succeeding in the starting rotation. Cashner could provide a significant amount of bullpen help if Marmol is dealt.

 

Not to mention there are some decent relief options out there in free agency.

 

I don't see Cashner breaking with the team in Spring Training, but he definitely could be a September callup next season if the Cubs keep him as a reliever.

 

Yeah, I love Marmol, but I'd give him up for an elite pitcher or hitter. Peavy is an elite pitcher. I can't think of any logical deal I'd make that trades away Geovany Soto.

 

Yeah, you'd have to acquire a guy that gives you such an improvement over what you have that it would completely offset the obvious downgrade you'd get from losing Soto and going with what is likely to be crappy catching production. I just don't see how that could work.

[erik316wttn]

The only way we can part with Marmol is if we sign Wood and are sure that Samardzija can repeat his performance from last season, which I wouldn't be too sure of. Soto should be untouchable even for Peavy.

 

They did just draft a college closer who probably has very little chance of succeeding in the starting rotation. Cashner could provide a significant amount of bullpen help if Marmol is dealt.

 

Not to mention there are some decent relief options out there in free agency.

 

I don't see Cashner breaking with the team in Spring Training, but he definitely could be a September callup next season if the Cubs keep him as a reliever.

 

Yeah, I love Marmol, but I'd give him up for an elite pitcher or hitter. Peavy is an elite pitcher. I can't think of any logical deal I'd make that trades away Geovany Soto.

 

Yeah, you'd have to acquire a guy that gives you such an improvement over what you have that it would completely offset the obvious downgrade you'd get from losing Soto and going with what is likely to be crappy catching production. I just don't see how that could work.

 

Superstar 1B prospects are far more common than superstar catching prospects. It would take a LOT for me to agree to part with Soto.

[mordecaibrown]

The Padres do not want to add salary so that is the only reason why Soto would ever be discussed. A young potential superstar catcher is a major asset the Padres would love to acquire so I would imagine that the conversation for Peavy starts and ends with Geo. If the Cubs are serious about Peavy they must have put some thought into a future without Geo because anyone who has viewed a San Diego Padres game knows that catcher has been a black hole for that ball club.

 

In my opinion I say sell high on Marmol and start from there. If the Padres balk at an offer headed by Marmol walk away. The only reason why Soto should be discussed from a Cubs view is if Gonzalez and Peavy are mentioned.

[mordecaibrown]

Think about if the Cubs were to trade Z to the Padres to rid themselves of salary. What would the Cubs ask for then?

 

The Cubs would not be asking for spare parts like Joey Gerut and Scott Hairston. They would want young talent so realistically do you think the Padres could justify a Peavy trade without landing Marmol or Soto?

[mhuber92211]

For once I think that this board is valuing Peavy too high and selling Cubs players low. This is a perfect situation for the Cubs and Padres. The Padres need young, cheap players in mass quanity and the Cubs can offer that. The Padres would rather get the extra 1 or 2 players in a deal then try to hold out for a star.

 

Especially if a bad contract is taken back, the Cubs can make this deal work.

[Jehrico]

Think about if the Cubs were to trade Z to the Padres to rid themselves of salary. What would the Cubs ask for then?

 

The Cubs would not be asking for spare parts like Joey Gerut and Scott Hairston. They would want young talent so realistically do you think the Padres could justify a Peavy trade without landing Marmol or Soto?

That's not a fair comparison. I don't think anyone is suggesting offering Reed Johnson and Ronny Cedeno for Peavy, which would be the Cubs closest equivalent of Gerut and Hairston. What alot of people are talking about offering is comparable to about 5 Geruts or Hairstons back when they were prospects before they ever played their first game.

[pitchcs]

Jim Hendry will not be trading Soto this offseason.

[Jehrico]

Jim Hendry will not be trading Soto this offseason.

I agree...I only floated the Soto-Lee trade idea out as a conversation piece to assess what value a package of Peavy and Gonzalez really has. I don't think we could get the Padres to agree to a package without adding in something we should never do.

[mordecaibrown]

Soto WILL BE a Cub in 2009 but it does not stop other teams from ask for him in return in any trade discussions. The Cubs farm system is pretty weak so that's a huge reach saying that the Cubs even have five Gerut or Hairston level prospects in the minors. I specifically choose those two to mention because at one time in the distant past they were both well overrated prospects, just like almost anyone in the Cubs system and that's exactly what the Padres will try to avoid.

[Andy]

Soto WILL BE a Cub in 2009 but it does not stop other teams from ask for him in return in any trade discussions. The Cubs farm system is pretty weak so that's a huge reach saying that the Cubs even have five Gerut or Hairston level prospects in the minors. I specifically choose those two to mention because at one time in the distant past they were both well overrated prospects, just like almost anyone in the Cubs system and that's exactly what the Padres will try to avoid.

Gerut and Hairston have not been 'prospects' of any kind in quite some time. Both are full-time MLB players and have been for a few years. Comparing them to the Cubs names being floated - besides probably Cedeno, who has been around a couple years now - is not really an accurate comparison.

[USSoccer]

I think you could pull it off if you agreed to take Greene along with Peavy.

 

So something like Pie/Cedeno/Marshall/Adkins.

[Post Count Padder]

I think you could pull it off if you agreed to take Greene along with Peavy.

 

So something like Pie/Cedeno/Marshall/Adkins.

If that's all it takes, I'd pull it off in quicker than a heartbeat.

[apete6]

I think you could pull it off if you agreed to take Greene along with Peavy.

 

So something like Pie/Cedeno/Marshall/Adkins.

 

If Towers takes that, Hendry has some nasty pictures of him.

 

That platter wouldn't land Peavy alone, let alone Greene.

 

I'm thinking Pie/Theriot/Marshall/Veal/Adkins might get them to discuss that deal.

[SouthSideRyan]

Jim Hendry will not be trading Soto this offseason.

 

Nor would he have to to get Peavy.