College Basketball Coaching changes/hiring's

[Guest]

I hope Tony stays at WSU.

[JimSorgi]

And a new report says that Bennett has an offer from IU, and has until noon Sunday to make a decision.

Please take it, Tony.

[NCCubFan]

Does IU really want a coach who left his heart in San Francisco? :D

 

Seriously, if he's really interested in IU, my wish list begins and ends with Pitino. I've seen first-hand how quickly he can restore a broken program. My last two years as a doctoral student at Kentucky were Pitino's first two years as coach. He took a program in shambles due to NCAA probation (two years' postseason ban) that was coming off its worst record in decades and had them back at .500 his first year and with the best record in the SEC the next year. His third year, their first year of being eligible again for postseason, they were one miracle shot (Christian Laettner) away from the Final Four. Four years later he won the national championship, followed the next year by a runner-up finish. And the following year they won another title with players recruited by Pitino even though he had left. Then he takes over a Louisville program that had been declining during the last few years of the Denny Crum era and has them back in Final Four contention. He's exactly what IU needs, and based on his history he's probably ready to move on to the next challenge.

[Hosak8]

The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

 

Good point. I forgot about that. :lol:

 

Really, I've asserted for awhile now that without that 5 win year (I realize you can't omit the season, but still...) people wouldn't hate Fulmer nearly as much as they do.

 

If a couple of breaks had gone our way (like the ball Cory Anderson had securely wrapped up that was popped out and conveniently wound up going out the back of the end zone when we had Bama beat) and that season ended up 7-8 wins - Fulmer wouldn't be as universally despised as he's gotten.

 

His wins/arrests ratio hurt pretty badly.

[dew1679666265]

The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

 

Good point. I forgot about that. :lol:

 

Really, I've asserted for awhile now that without that 5 win year (I realize you can't omit the season, but still...) people wouldn't hate Fulmer nearly as much as they do.

 

If a couple of breaks had gone our way (like the ball Cory Anderson had securely wrapped up that was popped out and conveniently wound up going out the back of the end zone when we had Bama beat) and that season ended up 7-8 wins - Fulmer wouldn't be as universally despised as he's gotten.

 

His wins/arrests ratio hurt pretty badly.

 

Yeah, while I'm not crazy about the arrests that have occured, I'm not convinced Fulmer's just letting guys run wild.

 

When you're trying to deal with more than 100 college age kids, bad things are going to happen. Plus, when you're trying to win at an extremely high level, you can't only recruit angels.

 

We had a rash of arrests early on this offseason, he disciplined them and I haven't heard of anything for a while now. I don't want to excuse the idiocy of the kids, but I can't place all (or even most) of the blame on Fulmer. At some point, these kids have to assume responsibility for their own actions.

[RedFlash]

The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

 

Damn straight. And in less then two yrs, people are going to be jealous at the amont of talent that Saban has brought in, to a point people are going to use the old standard cliche "the coach bought these players" comments. And if you hated to hear Alabama and their 2008 class, just right till you hear about their 2009 class with Tana Patrick, Nico Johnson, Kendall Kelly, AJ McCaron, etc, etc. I'm telling you...Alabama will be in a major bowl game in 2 yrs, and the National Championship game in 2/3 yrs. Get use to it, now, and your disgust of Alabama will be held to a minimum.

 

And yes, Tennessee is or will be a middle of the pack SEC team.

[Derwood]

The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

 

Damn straight. And in less then two yrs, people are going to be jealous at the amont of talent that Saban has brought in, to a point people are going to use the old standard cliche "the coach bought these players" comments. And if you hated to hear Alabama and their 2008 class, just right till you hear about their 2009 class with Tana Patrick, Nico Johnson, Kendall Kelly, AJ McCaron, etc, etc. I'm telling you...Alabama will be in a major bowl game in 2 yrs, and the National Championship game in 2/3 yrs. Get use to it, now, and your disgust of Alabama will be held to a minimum.

 

And yes, Tennessee is or will be a middle of the pack SEC team.

 

and by the time those players are in Alabama, Saban will have gone on to the next job

[Keener98]

Just when we get rid of one arrogant, delusional SEC fan, another one comes along. :banghead:

[Vanilla Ice]

Just when we get rid of one arrogant, delusional SEC fan, another one comes along. :banghead:

 

Exactly what I was thinking

[Derwood]

Just when we get rid of one arrogant, delusional SEC fan, another one comes along. :banghead:

 

Exactly what I was thinking

 

at least Meph's team was arguably good

[Vanilla Ice]

A tad corny

 

But watch this RedFlash

 

[dew1679666265]

The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

 

Damn straight. And in less then two yrs, people are going to be jealous at the amont of talent that Saban has brought in, to a point people are going to use the old standard cliche "the coach bought these players" comments. And if you hated to hear Alabama and their 2008 class, just right till you hear about their 2009 class with Tana Patrick, Nico Johnson, Kendall Kelly, AJ McCaron, etc, etc. I'm telling you...Alabama will be in a major bowl game in 2 yrs, and the National Championship game in 2/3 yrs. Get use to it, now, and your disgust of Alabama will be held to a minimum.

 

You're right that Bama's finally got a chance to turn things around (first time since the early to mid 90s right?) but there's also no reason whatsoever to think Saban will stick around for more than 4 years (at extreme most).

 

And yes, Tennessee is or will be a middle of the pack SEC team.

 

Give me some reason to think this. I showed you plenty of evidence why we are not middle of the pack. We also have one of the best coaches in the SEC and a good, young offensive coordinator. I see no reason why we'll all of a sudden have a major dropoff.

[SouthSideRyan]

lawl at Bama for the national title.

 

Indiana are a bunch of dopes putting a strict deadline on Bennett. Here we'll give you no time to consider this, so that you can turn us down, and now we'll go shop the job around as one that was turned down by Washington St.'s coach.

[CuseCubFan69]

lawl at Bama for the national title.

 

Indiana are a bunch of dopes putting a strict deadline on Bennett. Here we'll give you no time to consider this, so that you can turn us down, and now we'll go shop the job around as one that was turned down by Washington St.'s coach.

 

Quinn Snyder is still available.

[Vanilla Ice]

Oh, this is the College BASKETBALL Coaching changes/hiring's thread.

[dew1679666265]

Oh, this is the College BASKETBALL Coaching changes/hiring's thread.

 

Since when does anybody at NSBB abide by a thread's title? We're above those sorts of limitations. :wink:

[Magnetic Curses]

bennett told iu no.

 

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/sportslink/

[Guest]

Good for Tony, good for WSU. :)

[Magnetic Curses]

Good for Tony, good for WSU. :)

 

it's hard to convince someone to coach your team with sanctions likely forthcoming, even at a school like iu.

[CuseCubFan69]

Good for Tony, good for WSU. :)

 

it's hard to convince someone to coach your team with sanctions likely forthcoming, even at a school like iu.

 

Yeah, I think it'll have to be a younger guy that is going to wait out the sanctions and then move forward.

[illiniguy]

Good Bennett is a good coach, but the last thing the Big Ten needs is another grind it out coach.

[snoodmonger]

Good Bennett is a good coach, but the last thing the Big Ten needs is another grind it out coach.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Someone else who opens it up would be nice.

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't care what kind of style the new IU coach brings as long as he's terrible.

[JimSorgi]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3320987

 

This article breaks my heart. Indiana hasn't contacted Isiah Thomas about the open coaching job. What a shame.

[Vanilla Ice]

So, who is the consensus second and third choices now that Bennett is out?

 

I was pretty surprised that they didn't even wait to interview the Xavier coach