College Basketball Coaching changes/hiring's

[Derwood]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

[Magnetic Curses]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

[Derwood]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

 

it's tough for me to argue for or against. i'm not close enough to the situation, but it seems that Indiana hasn't had an "elite" team in a long time, Mike Davis' Final Four run not withstanding. I mean, would you consider Penn State a top 10 prestige job in football?

[Magnetic Curses]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

 

it's tough for me to argue for or against. i'm not close enough to the situation, but it seems that Indiana hasn't had an "elite" team in a long time, Mike Davis' Final Four run not withstanding. I mean, would you consider Penn State a top 10 prestige job in football?

 

that's a tough one.

[Derwood]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

 

it's tough for me to argue for or against. i'm not close enough to the situation, but it seems that Indiana hasn't had an "elite" team in a long time, Mike Davis' Final Four run not withstanding. I mean, would you consider Penn State a top 10 prestige job in football?

 

that's a tough one.

 

it's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens when JoePa retires. knowing Penn State, they'll just promote a coordinator and completely rule out the idea of getting a marquee head coach from outside the system

[bukie]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

 

it's tough for me to argue for or against. i'm not close enough to the situation, but it seems that Indiana hasn't had an "elite" team in a long time, Mike Davis' Final Four run not withstanding. I mean, would you consider Penn State a top 10 prestige job in football?

 

that's a tough one.

 

it's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens when JoePa retires. knowing Penn State, they'll just promote a coordinator and completely rule out the idea of getting a marquee head coach from outside the system

 

As football prestige goes, it's difficult to argue a basis, but based on overall program winning percentage, the following 10 programs are the most prestigious: Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, USC, Nebraska, Tennessee, Penn State. That leaves out programs like Florida State, Florida, Miami and LSU.

[Andy]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

 

it's tough for me to argue for or against. i'm not close enough to the situation, but it seems that Indiana hasn't had an "elite" team in a long time, Mike Davis' Final Four run not withstanding. I mean, would you consider Penn State a top 10 prestige job in football?

 

that's a tough one.

 

it's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens when JoePa retires. knowing Penn State, they'll just promote a coordinator and completely rule out the idea of getting a marquee head coach from outside the system

 

As football prestige goes, it's difficult to argue a basis, but based on overall program winning percentage, the following 10 programs are the most prestigious: Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, USC, Nebraska, Tennessee, Penn State. That leaves out programs like Florida State, Florida, Miami and LSU.

And with the possible exception of Florida, I think it's fair to say that those last four remain on a lower tier than the first list (PSU and Tennessee can be argued but I'd say they are). There's a reason Les Miles carried on a long flirtation with Michigan before a contract extension kept him at LSU.

 

The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

[Magnetic Curses]

top 10 program, or top 10 coveted coaching position?

 

both. the prestige of the program is still mostly intact. i'd go so far as to say top 6.

 

unc

duke

kentucky

kansas

ucla

iu

 

in no particular order.

 

it's tough for me to argue for or against. i'm not close enough to the situation, but it seems that Indiana hasn't had an "elite" team in a long time, Mike Davis' Final Four run not withstanding. I mean, would you consider Penn State a top 10 prestige job in football?

 

that's a tough one.

 

it's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens when JoePa retires. knowing Penn State, they'll just promote a coordinator and completely rule out the idea of getting a marquee head coach from outside the system

 

only if he's not dead by the time he retires.

[AI]

We need a new coach. Our number one choice, Jeff Capel, just re-signed in Oklahoma for more money. Look for a few other coaches to use us for a raise. Our AD loves Sean Miller, but not his buyout. The Western Kentucky coach and UMASS coach Travis Ford are also on our list.

[rawaction]

What's more strange? No IU basketball championship since 1987 or no Notre Dame football championship since 1988. Neither team has really been that close in the last 12 years.

[Guest]

If I were Indiana, I'd be all over Sean Miller or Tony Bennett.

[rawaction]

If I were Indiana, I'd be all over Sean Miller or Tony Bennett.

 

I'd prefer Miller to Bennett, but yeah, they are my 1 and 1a. Nobody else is even close.

[Exile on Waveland]

1. Tennessee's simply not a better program than Indiana. Tennessee has had three good years in a row. They've been better than IU the past three years, but it's just three years. The Indiana job is much more desirable.

 

2. I don't believe Pearl is a direction IU will go. He's close to a pariah in the Big Ten, among other things.

 

3. Alford isn't going to happen. He and Greenspan evidently don't get along at all. Even if they did, it's not happening.

 

4. I have no problem with a different style for Indiana, but Tennessee's is not a style I'd want. Up-tempo is great, but Pearl's style of "controlled chaos" is basically just chaos offensively. I've seen a lot of Pearl since his USI days and his teams simply do not take good shots.

[Exile on Waveland]

If I were Indiana, I'd be all over Sean Miller or Tony Bennett.

 

I'd prefer Miller to Bennett, but yeah, they are my 1 and 1a. Nobody else is even close.

 

I prefer Bennett, but those are 1 and 1a for me too. I'd be ecstatic with either.

[Vanilla Ice]

Is anybody on the board a Clemson fan? I am kind of surprised that Purnell is not mentioned for some of the higher profile jobs. Does he have a huge salary or a very big buyout? He is finally able to recruit to Clemson and get the athletes there. But, he could recruit very well to a place like Indiana and still fairly young. I am sure there is a reason though.

[rawaction]

Is anybody on the board a Clemson fan? I am kind of surprised that Purnell is not mentioned for some of the higher profile jobs. Does he have a huge salary or a very big buyout? He is finally able to recruit to Clemson and get the athletes there. But, he could recruit very well to a place like Indiana and still fairly young. I am sure there is a reason though.

 

Be interesting to see if IU went with their 3rd straight minority hire. I don't think Purnell is that good of a coach though.

[CubColtPacer]

What's more strange? No IU basketball championship since 1987 or no Notre Dame football championship since 1988. Neither team has really been that close in the last 12 years.

 

I understand what you mean about quality of team, but I'd call leading with 8 minutes to go in the national title game pretty close.

 

I sort of don't want Pearl because of all the talk. Feuds in the Big 10. Fans calling into to shows complaining about his offensive style. He doesn't unite the fanbase, which I think is a big key to this hire.

 

Alford is a double whammy. He isn't a great coach, and he causes a civil war within the fanbase. Please stay away from him at all costs.

 

Bennett is probably a very good hire. His coaching style is such that the Knight crowd will like him. He's a very good coach and not a Knight, which means that the people who have moved on from Knight will like him.

 

I'd also really like Miller. I think he's a fantastic coach, and all of IU's fans could get behind his coaching philosophy

 

So I'm looking for 2 criteria. 1 is a great coach, and another is one who can appeal to all parts of IU's diverse fanbase. Some people may say that if you get number 1, you'll get number 2, but I just don't think that's the case in this situation.

[hawkeyecub]

Last year my top two choices for the Iowa job were Tony Bennett and Kevin Stallings. There was quite a bit of mutual interest with Stallings and some reported that they had two preliminary contracts drawn up, one for Lickliter and one for Stallings.

 

If I were you guys, Bennett would be my #1 with Miller close behind. I think I would have some interest in Stallings though, but I don't believe I've seen him mentioned anywhere.

 

I wonder how interested they may have been in Lickliter had he stayed at Butler.

[CubbieBum]

no to bruce pearl. it boggles my mind that so many iu fans want pearl. 1) to claim you want someone who is squeky clean and then mention pearl in the same breath is completely insane; 2) he plays pretty much the exact opposite brand of basketball that most iu fans claim to love.

 

You do realize the reason Pearl feel off the face of the Earth was because he made it public hat a recruit told him he was choosing a different school because they offered him money and new SUV. I would say he doesn't like cheaters.

[CubbieBum]

1. Peen State won't hire anyone big when JoePa retires. If you don't know joePa is one of the lowest paid coaches in the Big Ten and always has been. He says he just doesn't need millions. He's paid something like 500k. No marquee coach is going to take a huge paycut to go there.

 

2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

[JimSorgi]

Not that it really matters, but some guy on ESPN said he thinks Sean Miller is the favorite for the Indiana job.

[Exile on Waveland]

Is anybody on the board a Clemson fan? I am kind of surprised that Purnell is not mentioned for some of the higher profile jobs. Does he have a huge salary or a very big buyout? He is finally able to recruit to Clemson and get the athletes there. But, he could recruit very well to a place like Indiana and still fairly young. I am sure there is a reason though.

 

Be interesting to see if IU went with their 3rd straight minority hire. I don't think Purnell is that good of a coach though.

 

I am certain IU would have no problem with a third straight minority hire. However, I'm not really sure what candidate is viable. The closest might be Anthony Grant, but I don't see him as much of a candidate for various reasons. Nor do I think he should be.

 

I sort of don't want Pearl because of all the talk. Feuds in the Big 10. Fans calling into to shows complaining about his offensive style. He doesn't unite the fanbase, which I think is a big key to this hire.

 

Great post, CCP. I agree with everything you said. I simply quoted the Pearl part to reduce clutter and to agree that I don't want Pearl because of mainly ancillary reasons. I do think his offensive style is a concern and not something that would go over well with the IU fan base. And, again, I've seen his teams play in person a TON over the years. I like Pearl a lot and will always root for him, however (anathema to Illinois fans, I know).

Edited March 28, 2008 by Exile on Waveland

[Exile on Waveland]

2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

 

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Seriously, during the Davis era every opposing fan attempted to convince me he wasn't that bad and IU should give him another year. This happened every year.

[SeldomSeen]

Not that it really matters, but some guy on ESPN said he thinks Sean Miller is the favorite for the Indiana job.

 

This would make me happy. If we're not getting a "name" coach (and I'm not sure who would want the job), Miller would be my #1 choice.

[Derwood]

1. Peen State won't hire anyone big when JoePa retires. If you don't know joePa is one of the lowest paid coaches in the Big Ten and always has been. He says he just doesn't need millions. He's paid something like 500k. No marquee coach is going to take a huge paycut to go there.

 

2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

 

 

Penn State will get pressured into the right hire by boosters. Believe me