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What's more strange? No IU basketball championship since 1987 or no Notre Dame football championship since 1988. Neither team has really been that close in the last 12 years.

 

April 1, 2002, NCAA Championship game, IU vs. Maryland. With 9:52 left in the game, IU led 44-42. I would say that being within 10 in-game minutes of a 6th National Championship game qualifies as close.

 

That they were not expected to get that far is another story entirely.

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no to bruce pearl. it boggles my mind that so many iu fans want pearl. 1) to claim you want someone who is squeky clean and then mention pearl in the same breath is completely insane; 2) he plays pretty much the exact opposite brand of basketball that most iu fans claim to love.

 

You do realize the reason Pearl feel off the face of the Earth was because he made it public hat a recruit told him he was choosing a different school because they offered him money and new SUV. I would say he doesn't like cheaters.

 

Yeah, that's the whole story.

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no to bruce pearl. it boggles my mind that so many iu fans want pearl. 1) to claim you want someone who is squeky clean and then mention pearl in the same breath is completely insane; 2) he plays pretty much the exact opposite brand of basketball that most iu fans claim to love.

 

You do realize the reason Pearl feel off the face of the Earth was because he made it public hat a recruit told him he was choosing a different school because they offered him money and new SUV. I would say he doesn't like cheaters.

 

Yeah, that's the whole story.

 

You're so unbiased. :)

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2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

 

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Seriously, during the Davis era every opposing fan attempted to convince me he wasn't that bad and IU should give him another year. This happened every year.

 

Ahh, that happened in Lavin's last few years. In fact, when it was obvious Lavin was done in that painful last season, Arizona fans would call in to LA sports talk radio pretending to be Bruins fans and try to prop up and defend Lavin.

 

USC fans were doing that a bit with Dorrell last fall.

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no to bruce pearl. it boggles my mind that so many iu fans want pearl. 1) to claim you want someone who is squeky clean and then mention pearl in the same breath is completely insane; 2) he plays pretty much the exact opposite brand of basketball that most iu fans claim to love.

 

You do realize the reason Pearl feel off the face of the Earth was because he made it public hat a recruit told him he was choosing a different school because they offered him money and new SUV. I would say he doesn't like cheaters.

 

Yeah, that's the whole story.

 

He didn't tape conversations without permission, didn't bait a high schooler into making incriminating statements, didn't splice different conversations together, etc. Nope. Didn't do any of that.

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2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

 

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Seriously, during the Davis era every opposing fan attempted to convince me he wasn't that bad and IU should give him another year. This happened every year.

 

Ahh, that happened in Lavin's last few years. In fact, when it was obvious Lavin was done in that painful last season, Arizona fans would call in to LA sports talk radio pretending to be Bruins fans and try to prop up and defend Lavin.

 

USC fans were doing that a bit with Dorrell last fall.

 

Yeah, Davis, Lavin and Dorrell were great. If you were a Purdue, Arizona or USC fan.

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1. Peen State won't hire anyone big when JoePa retires. If you don't know joePa is one of the lowest paid coaches in the Big Ten and always has been. He says he just doesn't need millions. He's paid something like 500k. No marquee coach is going to take a huge paycut to go there.

 

2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

 

 

Penn State will get pressured into the right hire by boosters. Believe me

 

I think it might take the failure of the first coach to make booster's demand it. Not like they have dealt with demanding a coach ever.

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1. Peen State won't hire anyone big when JoePa retires. If you don't know joePa is one of the lowest paid coaches in the Big Ten and always has been. He says he just doesn't need millions. He's paid something like 500k. No marquee coach is going to take a huge paycut to go there.

 

2. I want IU to rehire Sampson or Davis, but thats because I'm a Purdue fan.

 

 

Penn State will get pressured into the right hire by boosters. Believe me

 

I think it might take the failure of the first coach to make booster's demand it. Not like they have dealt with demanding a coach ever.

 

my family has lived in State College for 22 years. believe me when I say this. the boosters almost ran Paterno out of his job a few years ago. the school is seeing less and less donation money from alumni. they won't dare risk alienating their donors further

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Yeah, Davis, Lavin and Dorrell were great. If you were a Purdue, Arizona or USC fan.

 

Actually you're a bit wrong on that. Lavin was painful for Purdue fans. He is a Purdue guy, and him being at UCLA was great because Wooden was a Purdue guy too.

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The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

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no to bruce pearl. it boggles my mind that so many iu fans want pearl. 1) to claim you want someone who is squeky clean and then mention pearl in the same breath is completely insane; 2) he plays pretty much the exact opposite brand of basketball that most iu fans claim to love.

 

You do realize the reason Pearl feel off the face of the Earth was because he made it public hat a recruit told him he was choosing a different school because they offered him money and new SUV. I would say he doesn't like cheaters.

 

you have seen the transcripts of that conversation and realize the tape was thrown out by the ncaa, right?

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Don't take it Tony.

 

1) I think he's a hell of a coach. 2) If we're going to have a good coach come into the conference, we need someone with a different style just for the sake of variety. Not one of the 7 slowest teams in the country.

 

This year there were 6 teams in the Big 12, ACC, Big East, SEC and Pac-10 combined who played at fewer than 64 possessions per game. The Big Ten had 4 alone. Bring Bennett to the Big Ten and now 5 of your 11 play at 64 or fewer and there may only be 5 like that in the rest of the BCS conferences combined.

 

Plus I also think it would be kind of cool for him to stay at Wazzu and maintain a solid program.

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The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

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Bob Kravitz has been pushing for Izzo he claims if IU made the call would would listen.

 

Isn't Bob Kravitz a dope?

 

Yes. He's a huge dope. I have no idea what makes Kravitz think Izzo would leave Michigan State for Indiana. Doesn't make any sense at all. Kravitz is the guy that suggested JohnCalipari (after saying IU shouldn't hire anyone with any taint whatsoever of being unethical after Sampson) and Paul Hewitt (one winning season at 9-7 in the ACC in eight years), among others. He's a huge dope and Izzo seems about as unrealistic as you could get.

 

I don't think I believe IU can't afford Miller's buyout. I've read that, but a donor ponied up $550,000 to make Sampson go away; the university is also apparently willing to go at least to $2.5 million per year for a coach.

 

Finally, Sampson was hired the Wednesday before the Final Four two years ago, so I'd expect Thursday to be a reasonable deadline.

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Hutch claims the Bennett offer is probably not true, but that there is interest on both sides. There is still an awful lot of conversation about Pitino, as well.
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The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

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The last four are consistently very good to great teams - the first list are brand names in college football.

 

Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU?

 

Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences.

 

Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production.

 

Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season.

 

While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit.

 

2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks

 

2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East

 

2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us

 

2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted

 

2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title

 

There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC.

 

RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said.

 

Good point. I forgot about that. :lol:

 

Really, I've asserted for awhile now that without that 5 win year (I realize you can't omit the season, but still...) people wouldn't hate Fulmer nearly as much as they do.

 

If a couple of breaks had gone our way (like the ball Cory Anderson had securely wrapped up that was popped out and conveniently wound up going out the back of the end zone when we had Bama beat) and that season ended up 7-8 wins - Fulmer wouldn't be as universally despised as he's gotten.

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