MacPhail: Deal is dead (p. 297), stop posting, go outside

[Post Count Padder]

That deal makes it seem like a pretty good deal for the Cubs.

Cedeno/Gallegher/Fuld/Marquis would be nicer though.

 

Murton/Marshall/Theriot/ for Greene

 

I'm still dreaming.

Haven't the O's recently expressed interest in getting Marquis in the Roberts trade?

[mdwilla]

That deal makes it seem like a pretty good deal for the Cubs.

Cedeno/Gallegher/Fuld/Marquis would be nicer though.

 

Murton/Marshall/Theriot/ for Greene

 

I'm still dreaming.

Haven't the O's recently expressed interest in getting Marquis in the Roberts trade?

 

There was a recent report that the O's and other teams where interested in him now that the Cubs have signed Lieber.

[RammyFanny]

If true, I hope it's not Pie for Roberts and Byrd for Murton and Gallagher. I can see Hendry do something stupid like that

 

 

According to that Joeyguy on OH the two trades will look like this :

 

 

O's get : Jones, Tillman, Sherril and Chen

 

M's get : Bedard

 

 

 

Cubs get : Roberts

 

O's get : Gallagher , Murton and Cedeno

 

 

He said that Roberts to cubs will happen very soon after Bedard to the M's is completed. I know this is about the 500 time we have heard this but this time there are 2 guys from the baltimore sun saying that Bedard should be gone next week.

 

Are you going off his old info about who would be involved in the trade? From what I see he didn't mention the specifics for us (though he said he would in PM).

[The Voice of Reason]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

[Sammy Sofa]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

[Abe Frohman]

Bump.

[Schwarber Fan]

OK guys so if/when Roberts is acquired do we just stay in this thread or start a new one?

[Post Count Padder]

OK guys so if/when Roberts is acquired do we just stay in this thread or start a new one?

This thread is a monopoly.

[brinoch]

Regardless of how long the thread is, this is the correct place for all new information regarding Roberts. The thread title will be changed to reflect hard information and the location of the information. If there is an actual trade, a new thread will most likely be created, and this one locked.

 

 

And the next person who bitches about the length of a thread is likely to get banned. Just kidding. I think.

[David]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

[JGalt73]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

 

I have no knowledge of who is who on the Orioles board except for what was posted earlier in this thread. I will point out though, that the only labeled insider talking about the Cubs and Roberts during this whole thread on Bedard appears to be a new poster to the Orioles board with a supposed Cubs source whose veracity is openly questioned on the board. Link to Orioles Hangout Insider Re-cap.

[CUBZ99]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

 

I have no knowledge of who is who on the Orioles board except for what was posted earlier in this thread. I will point out though, that the only labeled insider talking about the Cubs and Roberts during this whole thread on Bedard appears to be a new poster to the Orioles board with a supposed Cubs source whose veracity is openly questioned on the board. Link to Orioles Hangout Insider Re-cap.

 

Their board has been a joke as far as inside information. According to them, Roberts was traded to the Cubs weeks ago.

[Sammy Sofa]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

 

I have no knowledge of who is who on the Orioles board except for what was posted earlier in this thread. I will point out though, that the only labeled insider talking about the Cubs and Roberts during this whole thread on Bedard appears to be a new poster to the Orioles board with a supposed Cubs source whose veracity is openly questioned on the board. Link to Orioles Hangout Insider Re-cap.

 

Their board has been a joke as far as inside information. According to them, Roberts was traded to the Cubs weeks ago.

 

LOLERZ YEAH!!!!11!!!

[Post Count Padder]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

 

I have no knowledge of who is who on the Orioles board except for what was posted earlier in this thread. I will point out though, that the only labeled insider talking about the Cubs and Roberts during this whole thread on Bedard appears to be a new poster to the Orioles board with a supposed Cubs source whose veracity is openly questioned on the board. Link to Orioles Hangout Insider Re-cap.

 

Their board has been a joke as far as inside information. According to them, Roberts was traded to the Cubs weeks ago.

Wooo, we got Brian Roberts!!!!!!!!

[Soul]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

 

I have no knowledge of who is who on the Orioles board except for what was posted earlier in this thread. I will point out though, that the only labeled insider talking about the Cubs and Roberts during this whole thread on Bedard appears to be a new poster to the Orioles board with a supposed Cubs source whose veracity is openly questioned on the board. Link to Orioles Hangout Insider Re-cap.

 

...it was posted that the deal was finalized on the main page, so it definitely wasn't just one new guy.

 

But who cares, it's just stupid rumor season anyway. This kind of stuff happens every year.

[Bote McBoteface]

Wow, this topic is long!

 

This topic is a monster that will eat everything in its path!

 

This topic will not die!

 

This topic is like a slasher killer that won't die!

 

I love this topic!

 

This is the BEST. TOPIC. EVER!

[C.C.]

So the deal is done? We finally got Greene! Oops wrong thread....

[Athletics36]

The O's want neither Murton or Cedeno according to what I have heard from MASN. A.M has been asking about other players......

[rawaction]

The O's want neither Murton or Cedeno according to what I have heard from MASN. A.M has been asking about other players......

 

Be better if they didn't want Gallagher. I'd really like to hang onto Sean at this point and throw Marshall in there. At the beginning of this offseason, I looked at Gallagher as one of the top trading chips. Now, with all the things I have heard about his losing weight and increasing velocity, I see him as the best candidate to start in the Cubs rotation.

 

I'm not just saying this to flatter you, but it seems as if Sean has been the hardest working Cub (minors or majors) the last few offseasons. One of the early knocks was that he wouldn't be able to increase velocity, then he did after A-ball. Then it was weight or that he was a 4th starter at best, but again he has worked hard in the offseason. And he's always put up the numbers. I'd trust him in the ML rotation more today than Marquis, Dempster, Leiber, or Marshall.

[Guest]

Be better if they didn't want Gallagher. I'd really like to hang onto Sean at this point and throw Marshall in there. At the beginning of this offseason, I looked at Gallagher as one of the top trading chips. Now, with all the things I have heard about his losing weight and increasing velocity, I see him as the best candidate to start in the Cubs rotation.

 

I'm not just saying this to flatter you, but it seems as if Sean has been the hardest working Cub (minors or majors) the last few offseasons. One of the early knocks was that he wouldn't be able to increase velocity, then he did after A-ball. Then it was weight or that he was a 4th starter at best, but again he has worked hard in the offseason. And he's always put up the numbers. I'd trust him in the ML rotation more today than Marquis, Dempster, Leiber, or Marshall.

I agree. I've considered Gallagher the Cubs' best pitching prospect for the past year or two, and he's done nothing over that time to suggest to me he wouldn't be a strong addition to our MLB rotation. I still think he may benefit from a bit more time in AAA, but given his very young age I don't see that as a knock against him.

 

I realize that Roberts is a good player, and that the Cubs must be expected to give up something of value if they wish to trade for him. I just hate to give up what I view as the Cubs' best bet to get cheap, good production out of a pitcher over the next few years. (Thereby dooming us to continue filling out the rotation with the Marquis and Liebers of the world at a cost of $6-$8 million instead of $350k.)

[David]

If must be a slow off season if we wait with baited breath for every word that guys with names like Peace and Big Bird have to say. :roll:

 

These "insiders" are probably the washrooom attendants at Oriole headquarters.

 

Why do people here keep slamming people on other team's boards as if they're saying these things just to mess wih us?

 

Some of us are WAY too wound up over this.

 

I'm agreeing with you a lot. Watch out, though. Someone is going to call you out for coming to the defense of the insiders. :roll:

 

I have no knowledge of who is who on the Orioles board except for what was posted earlier in this thread. I will point out though, that the only labeled insider talking about the Cubs and Roberts during this whole thread on Bedard appears to be a new poster to the Orioles board with a supposed Cubs source whose veracity is openly questioned on the board. Link to Orioles Hangout Insider Re-cap.

 

...it was posted that the deal was finalized on the main page, so it definitely wasn't just one new guy.

 

But who cares, it's just stupid rumor season anyway. This kind of stuff happens every year.

 

He actually meant the new thread where the "new" info was coming from.

[Backtobanks]

The O's want neither Murton or Cedeno according to what I have heard from MASN. A.M has been asking about other players......

 

That would be great news if it's true. I think Murton has some value to other GMs and a bunch of posters think Cedeno should be starting over Theriot. Of course, it depends on who the Orioles do want in place of them. The Bedard discussion didn't include much pitching help coming from the Mariners, so maybe Gallagher, Marshall, and Patterson?

[David]

Wouldn't it be sweet if the O's wanted Theriot instead of Cedeno or Murton and played hardball with Hendry until he gave in?

 

 

A guy can dream.

[Post Count Padder]

Wouldn't it be sweet if the O's wanted Theriot instead of Cedeno or Murton and played hardball with Hendry until he gave in?

 

 

A guy can dream.

[RammyFanny]

Trade secrets

There are a lot of denials out there, but major league sources are still indicating that the Cubs are listening to talk about a blockbuster deal that would send Baltimore ace Erik Bedard and second baseman Brian Roberts to Chicago for a truckload of younger players/prospects. The Cubs are also entertaining the thought of dealing former Sox farmhand Matt Murton to San Diego. Towers said, "We're trying to add another outfielder, a younger guy we can have under our control for a while."

 

sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors;_ylt=Am.6RHdjFPzHNiHiU7Cd6jcRvLYF

 

Doubt it since it seems like him to the Mariners is all but done, but it is from today so I thought i'd post it. I woulnd't be surprised if MacPhail and Hendry have the Roberts thing agreed on until Bedard is traded and Jim is helping Seattle raise their ante. I could see MacPhail telling Bavassi: "Well we're going to take the Cubs offer of Pie, Hill, and a buncha minor leaguers (obviously not real) unless you replace Sherill with Truinfel", or something like that.