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I will never forgive him for signing a contract without informing us that he isn't invulnerable.

 

What a bastard.

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I will never forgive him for signing a contract without informing us that he isn't invulnerable.

 

What a bastard.

 

Exactly. Can you imagine the nerve of the guy? I'll bet he's lounging in his backyard right now sucking down some cold brews, or getting ready for another round of golf this afternoon.

 

But seriously, the Kerry bashing here has reached new depths of cluelessness. Rehab is unpredictable and painful as hell.

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I will never forgive him for signing a contract without informing us that he isn't invulnerable.

 

What a bastard.

 

Exactly. Can you imagine the nerve of the guy? I'll bet he's lounging in his backyard right now sucking down some cold brews, or getting ready for another round of golf this afternoon.

 

But seriously, the Kerry bashing here has reached new depths of cluelessness. Rehab is unpredictable and painful as hell.

 

Of course he is. Obviously he planned the whole thing: sign a huge contract and then strategically injure himself so he won't have to earn it.

 

I mean there is that constant rehab, public pressure, derision and long term health effects, but that's nearly as bad a pitching every fifth day, right?

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I will never forgive him for signing a contract without informing us that he isn't invulnerable.

 

What a bastard.

 

Exactly. Can you imagine the nerve of the guy? I'll bet he's lounging in his backyard right now sucking down some cold brews, or getting ready for another round of golf this afternoon.

 

But seriously, the Kerry bashing here has reached new depths of cluelessness. Rehab is unpredictable and painful as hell.

 

Of course he is. Obviously he planned the whole thing: sign a huge contract and then strategically injure himself so he won't have to earn it.

 

I mean there is that constant rehab, public pressure, derision and long term health effects, but that's nearly as bad a pitching every fifth day, right?

 

He also gets the added bonus of never getting the huge contract that pitchers with his talent are receiving these days!

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I will never forgive him for signing a contract without informing us that he isn't invulnerable.

 

What a bastard.

 

Exactly. Can you imagine the nerve of the guy? I'll bet he's lounging in his backyard right now sucking down some cold brews, or getting ready for another round of golf this afternoon.

 

But seriously, the Kerry bashing here has reached new depths of cluelessness. Rehab is unpredictable and painful as hell.

 

Of course he is. Obviously he planned the whole thing: sign a huge contract and then strategically injure himself so he won't have to earn it.

 

I mean there is that constant rehab, public pressure, derision and long term health effects, but that's nearly as bad a pitching every fifth day, right?

 

He also gets the added bonus of never getting the huge contract that pitchers with his talent are receiving these days!

 

kerry lives in River North and doesn't have a backyard.

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I will never forgive him for signing a contract without informing us that he isn't invulnerable.

 

What a bastard.

 

Exactly. Can you imagine the nerve of the guy? I'll bet he's lounging in his backyard right now sucking down some cold brews, or getting ready for another round of golf this afternoon.

 

But seriously, the Kerry bashing here has reached new depths of cluelessness. Rehab is unpredictable and painful as hell.

 

Of course he is. Obviously he planned the whole thing: sign a huge contract and then strategically injure himself so he won't have to earn it.

 

I mean there is that constant rehab, public pressure, derision and long term health effects, but that's nearly as bad a pitching every fifth day, right?

 

He also gets the added bonus of never getting the huge contract that pitchers with his talent are receiving these days!

 

kerry lives in River North and doesn't have a backyard.

 

Wow... it's almost like they knew that and were using blatant sarcasm to poke fun at the users who never think before they post stupid stuff about Kerry Wood.

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I'm not interested in Kerry Wood as a relief pitcher. No matter how good he could be he's still very expenive for the level of production vs. his replacement. If he's a set up man he's an absurdly expensive set up man. The Cubs already have 2 of them and would be much better served using that money toward a real SS.
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I'm not interested in Kerry Wood as a relief pitcher. No matter how good he could be he's still very expenive for the level of production vs. his replacement. If he's a set up man he's an absurdly expensive set up man. The Cubs already have 2 of them and would be much better served using that money toward a real SS.

 

He's costing about $1.5 million dollars. That is not "absurdly expensive" in baseball terms by any stretch of the imagination.

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I'm not interested in Kerry Wood as a relief pitcher. No matter how good he could be he's still very expenive for the level of production vs. his replacement. If he's a set up man he's an absurdly expensive set up man. The Cubs already have 2 of them and would be much better served using that money toward a real SS.

Not qutie sure how good of SS 1.5 Mill can buy

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If Wood actually pitched and met some of his incentives his salary would go up. Furthermore, if Wood proved he could pitch he would likely want more than 1.5 million. Surely he'd want at least $4 million. That seems to be what the Cubs pay for veteran middle relief.

 

Add the money the Cubs are currently paying Izturis ($3.5 million?) and what they'd have to pay Wood to actually pitch (~$4 million) minus the League minimum they'd have to pay Cherry, Marmol etc. and the Cubs are in a much better position to make an attractive offer for a SS.

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If Wood actually pitched and met some of his incentives his salary would go up. Furthermore, if Wood proved he could pitch he would likely want more than 1.5 million. Surely he'd want at least $4 million. That seems to be what the Cubs pay for veteran middle relief.

 

Add the money the Cubs are currently paying Izturis ($3.5 million?) and what they'd have to pay Wood to actually pitch (~$4 million) minus the League minimum they'd have to pay Cherry, Marmol etc. and the Cubs are in a much better position to make an attractive offer for a SS.

 

And by getting rid of all the league minimum guys you'd do what? Go with a 28 man 40 man roster?

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If Wood actually pitched and met some of his incentives his salary would go up. Furthermore, if Wood proved he could pitch he would likely want more than 1.5 million. Surely he'd want at least $4 million. That seems to be what the Cubs pay for veteran middle relief.

 

Add the money the Cubs are currently paying Izturis ($3.5 million?) and what they'd have to pay Wood to actually pitch (~$4 million) minus the League minimum they'd have to pay Cherry, Marmol etc. and the Cubs are in a much better position to make an attractive offer for a SS.

 

And by getting rid of all the league minimum guys you'd do what? Go with a 28 man 40 man roster?

 

He's taking the league minimum guys away from the total. Basically, he's saying that if you take Wood away (his number-4 million) and - his replacement Marmol's salary (400 K) you get 3.6 million to put towards a SS.

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If Wood actually pitched and met some of his incentives his salary would go up. Furthermore, if Wood proved he could pitch he would likely want more than 1.5 million. Surely he'd want at least $4 million. That seems to be what the Cubs pay for veteran middle relief.

 

Add the money the Cubs are currently paying Izturis ($3.5 million?) and what they'd have to pay Wood to actually pitch (~$4 million) minus the League minimum they'd have to pay Cherry, Marmol etc. and the Cubs are in a much better position to make an attractive offer for a SS.

 

And by getting rid of all the league minimum guys you'd do what? Go with a 28 man 40 man roster?

 

I'm not sure what you mean. I'd replace Wood with a guy making league minimum and save money for basically the same production. I'd actually rather see the Cubs have more guys making the league minimum and then spend that money on frontline starters rather than overpaying veteran relievers and bench players for the same production.

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If Wood actually pitched and met some of his incentives his salary would go up. Furthermore, if Wood proved he could pitch he would likely want more than 1.5 million. Surely he'd want at least $4 million. That seems to be what the Cubs pay for veteran middle relief.

 

Add the money the Cubs are currently paying Izturis ($3.5 million?) and what they'd have to pay Wood to actually pitch (~$4 million) minus the League minimum they'd have to pay Cherry, Marmol etc. and the Cubs are in a much better position to make an attractive offer for a SS.

 

And by getting rid of all the league minimum guys you'd do what? Go with a 28 man 40 man roster?

 

I'm not sure what you mean. I'd replace Wood with a guy making league minimum and save money for basically the same production. I'd actually rather see the Cubs have more guys making the league minimum and then spend that money on frontline starters rather than overpaying veteran relievers and bench players for the same production.

 

Got ya, I misread it.

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Am I missing something? If Wood pitched enough to earn $4MM wouldn't he most likely be worth it?

 

In theory, the veteran is going to make (in this case) ten times what a rookie (at league minimum) with the same numbers would.

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If Wood pitched enough to earn $4MM wouldn't he most likely be worth it?

 

yes

 

To me the real question is can Wood ever return to the starting rotation? If not then he'll be paid too much for his production. I suppose he'd probably earn that $4 million this year but he certainly would want more to come back.

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I've long been done thinking that Kerry will ever be a starter again. But I must admit, I was holding out hope for that light's out short reliever that we saw a couple years ago for that short period of time. Too bad that that's becoming just a dream as well.

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