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soccer10k Cooperstown

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Assuming Florida wins this game (a pretty good bet at this point) I don't see OSU giving Florida a much better game than they did earlier in the year. Sure, Oden's healthy now and OSU is playing better but I think Noah and Horford are going to eat Oden alive inside and OSU is going to have to pick its poisen whether its Noah/Horford or Brewer/Humphrey/Green.

 

With Oden they wont have to double down as much as UCLA is and Florida probably wont get all those open look 3s. I didnt see the blowout earlier this year at Florida so im not speaking from much experience.

 

The problem for OSU is Oden can't guard both Horford and Noah so Florida is going to have a mismatch right there. Plus if Oden gets in foul trouble, that's two mismatches. Where as if one of Noah/Horford gets in foul trouble, the other can still guard Oden. So OSU is going to have to either gamble with one-on-one coverage of either Noah or Horford or double and hope Florida isn't hitting from outside.

 

Ohio St. does have other size. They have 3 other big men that get decent minutes. Oden can guard Horford who is less active, and Hunter/Harris can guard Noah, because they are more athletic.

 

Ivan Harris gives up four inches to Noah and will get dominated inside by him. Harris, maybe but he still gives up 2 inches. And it's not like Noah isn't athletic. He's one of the most athletic and active big men in college and it will be a mismatch in Florida's favor. Ohio State is a guard-oriented team after Oden. Florida matches up extremely well with them. They didn't win by 26 earlier this year for no reason. Humphrey, Green, and Brewer shot a combined 21-34 for 54 points in that game so OSU has to figure out what to do there as well.

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Sigh. :(

 

One more year, Arron. Please.

 

Just like I told shnsjax.....not gonna happen.

 

Dunno with Arron. For some reason, he's still a border-line first round pick to most people.

 

He'll definitely go if he's a first rounder (and he should). Heck, he has one more class to graduate after spring quarter.

rawaction Chicago Cubs

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Assuming Florida wins this game (a pretty good bet at this point) I don't see OSU giving Florida a much better game than they did earlier in the year. Sure, Oden's healthy now and OSU is playing better but I think Noah and Horford are going to eat Oden alive inside and OSU is going to have to pick its poisen whether its Noah/Horford or Brewer/Humphrey/Green.

 

With Oden they wont have to double down as much as UCLA is and Florida probably wont get all those open look 3s. I didnt see the blowout earlier this year at Florida so im not speaking from much experience.

 

The problem for OSU is Oden can't guard both Horford and Noah so Florida is going to have a mismatch right there. Plus if Oden gets in foul trouble, that's two mismatches. Where as if one of Noah/Horford gets in foul trouble, the other can still guard Oden. So OSU is going to have to either gamble with one-on-one coverage of either Noah or Horford or double and hope Florida isn't hitting from outside.

 

Ohio St. does have other size. They have 3 other big men that get decent minutes. Oden can guard Horford who is less active, and Hunter/Harris can guard Noah, because they are more athletic.

 

Ivan Harris gives up four inches to Noah and will get dominated inside by him. Harris, maybe but he still gives up 2 inches. And it's not like Noah isn't athletic. He's one of the most athletic and active big men in college and it will be a mismatch in Florida's favor. Ohio State is a guard-oriented team after Oden. Florida matches up extremely well with them. They didn't win by 26 earlier this year for no reason. Humphrey, Green, and Brewer shot a combined 21-34 for 54 points in that game so OSU has to figure out what to do there as well.

 

I never said Noah wasn't athletic. I was saying Harris/Hunter are more athletic than Oden (As far as guarding a player like Noah). Nobody is going to matchup against Noah. But it's far from Oden having to guard him and Horford at the same time. Especially, considering OSU will play a lot of zone.

 

And I think the main reasons Florida won by 26 points is because they were at home and they had 5 returning starters against a team with 3 of its top 4 players having less than 12 games experience. Oden had about 7 games of college experience, and that was all with 1 hand at the time.

rawaction Chicago Cubs

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Sigh. :(

 

One more year, Arron. Please.

 

Just like I told shnsjax.....not gonna happen.

 

Dunno with Arron. For some reason, he's still a border-line first round pick to most people.

 

He'll definitely go if he's a first rounder (and he should). Heck, he has one more class to graduate after spring quarter.

 

My thinking was because he's gonna be done with school. I think he's a lock for the first round, and could go anywhere from 16-25.

CaliforniaRaisin GOAT

CaliforniaRaisin

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Sigh. :(

 

One more year, Arron. Please.

 

Just like I told shnsjax.....not gonna happen.

 

Dunno with Arron. For some reason, he's still a border-line first round pick to most people.

 

He'll definitely go if he's a first rounder (and he should). Heck, he has one more class to graduate after spring quarter.

 

My thinking was because he's gonna be done with school. I think he's a lock for the first round, and could go anywhere from 16-25.

 

I hope he can go 16-25, he sure as hell should be a first rounder. He can't test the waters without an agent again, though.

soccer10k Cooperstown

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Assuming Florida wins this game (a pretty good bet at this point) I don't see OSU giving Florida a much better game than they did earlier in the year. Sure, Oden's healthy now and OSU is playing better but I think Noah and Horford are going to eat Oden alive inside and OSU is going to have to pick its poisen whether its Noah/Horford or Brewer/Humphrey/Green.

 

With Oden they wont have to double down as much as UCLA is and Florida probably wont get all those open look 3s. I didnt see the blowout earlier this year at Florida so im not speaking from much experience.

 

The problem for OSU is Oden can't guard both Horford and Noah so Florida is going to have a mismatch right there. Plus if Oden gets in foul trouble, that's two mismatches. Where as if one of Noah/Horford gets in foul trouble, the other can still guard Oden. So OSU is going to have to either gamble with one-on-one coverage of either Noah or Horford or double and hope Florida isn't hitting from outside.

 

Ohio St. does have other size. They have 3 other big men that get decent minutes. Oden can guard Horford who is less active, and Hunter/Harris can guard Noah, because they are more athletic.

 

Ivan Harris gives up four inches to Noah and will get dominated inside by him. Harris, maybe but he still gives up 2 inches. And it's not like Noah isn't athletic. He's one of the most athletic and active big men in college and it will be a mismatch in Florida's favor. Ohio State is a guard-oriented team after Oden. Florida matches up extremely well with them. They didn't win by 26 earlier this year for no reason. Humphrey, Green, and Brewer shot a combined 21-34 for 54 points in that game so OSU has to figure out what to do there as well.

 

I never said Noah wasn't athletic. I was saying Harris/Hunter are more athletic than Oden (As far as guarding a player like Noah). Nobody is going to matchup against Noah. But it's far from Oden having to guard him and Horford at the same time. Especially, considering OSU will play a lot of zone.

 

And I think the main reasons Florida won by 26 points is because they were at home and they had 5 returning starters against a team with 3 of its top 4 players having less than 12 games experience. Oden had about 7 games of college experience, and that was all with 1 hand at the time.

 

I just don't see all that much changing. I don't expect it to be an exact repeat of the first meeting though I am predicting a 15 point Florida victory. Of course OSU is better now then they were the first meeting because of experience. If Oden gets in foul trouble (which I would say is likely), OSU will be in trouble. Florida will dominate them on the offensive boards (and could even if Oden isn't in foul trouble) assuming they don't shoot 60% from the field again.

 

I just think Florida does so many things well as a team and they have so many ways that they can beat you that OSU doesn't pose a huge threat to them.

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Hey Billy Packer, It's DON-OH-VAN, not DUNN-OH-VUN. I'm pretty sure he pronounces it wrong just so he can be different. God I hate him.
hawkcub ACL Cubs

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This game is like having a choice between getting punched in the gut or the face, neither one's a good option. I begrudgingly say go OSU.
CubColtPacer South Bend Cubs

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Who to root for, who to root for..I'll have to go with the Big 10 and Ohio State, if partly just because when I look at Noah now I see Sanjaya from American Idol, and that's enough to have me root for OSU :D
rawaction Chicago Cubs

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I'm not really sure I can stomach Oden/Conley winning a title for Ohio State two years after Sean May won a title for North Carolina. Damn IU's apathetic administration.

 

Mike Davis is gone. All is well now.

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