lol, true enough Unfortunately, this is very true. I was at a 4th of July BBQ, and a Cubs conversation started, and the topic of why the Cubs suck so bad this year came up. Sure enough, a self proclaimed Cubs fan said that "we never shoulda gotten rid of Theriot." Needless to say, the words "gritty", "hustle", and "team player" came up. I wanted to punch this guy in the face. It's impossible to talk sensical baseball with some people. That's why I like to stick to NSBB. :D