College Football - Week of 11/25

[CubColtPacer]

Solution?

 

Louisville to the Big Ten. (12 teams) Add a conference title game.

 

Marshall from C-USA to the Big East. (8 teams) Add a conference title game. C-USA can choose whether to keep their title game or not.

 

Pac-10 has 10 teams already, so add a title game there.

 

That way, you have a conference title game for all the BCS conferences. In 2006, OSU/Mich would get a rematch and it doesn't have to come at the expense of a national title game.

 

or Notre Dame to the Big 10, some combo of Boise St./Hawaii/BYU/TCU/Utah to PAC-10

I'm operating under the assumption that ND won't join a conference. Even if they'd be receptive to it in the future, they've got four more seasons of NBC dollars to look forward to at least (and that's assuming that NBC wouldn't want ND back, which considering the future of the team wouldn't be a good bet).

 

And therein lies the problem of the NCAA. Notre Dame is greedy. The Big 10/11 is greedy. The ACC is greedy. They are all greedy.

 

I really believe that if these schools would give up a little of their short term greed the solution could be found. And I think down the road a playoff would generate much more money then these bowl games do for member institutions.

 

When it started, "March Madness" was barely televised. I think the 79 Magic/Byrd game was on at two o'clock on a staturday. Just look at it today. It is a cash cow.

 

I'm guessing football is still making more money than basketball though, even with March Madness. I know IU is struggling in the athletic department because football is not earning cash, even though basketball makes about as much as anybody in the country-and I don't hear of the pure football schools having the same concern.

[SouthSideRyan]

Woody Page (of all people) had a good argument against a UM/OSU rematch. Basically, he said that Michigan has had their shot and OSU proved to be better. Now it's time to let someone else try. Why give Michigan two chances while giving another team none?

 

So let's say Notre Dame beats USC, and Florida and Arkansas lose their games. Does ND really deserve to go ahead of Michigan just because they didn't play OSU during the regular season??

 

In theory it make sense, but there's far too much noise in a college football season to use something like that as a guideline.

To be fair, they owe ND one after the travishamockery in 1993. :wink:

 

I think it would be very interesting to see the voters be forced to choose between the head to head logic (send Mich to the title game) or the no-rematch logic (send ND) if they were the only viable options (Ark loses to LSU and then beats UF example).

 

If this scenario happens UM should go to the title game over ND and it shouldn't even be a debate. I'm not for a rematch in the title game but that sentiment is more relevant if USC and/or UF both end up with 1 loss. But head to head takes precedence over not wanting a rematch. This is why Arkansas has no chance at the title game unless USC loses. to UCLA after beating ND

[Andy]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

[CuseCubFan69]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

[Derwood]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

[CuseCubFan69]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

[Derwood]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

i'll admit, seeing penn state's defense vs. WVU's offense would be fun. They held OSU, UM and Wisconsin to 14, 17 and 13 points respectively

[cubweiser03]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

Lets see how those 3 teams can sustain it over more than 2-3 years (UL, WVU, RU). Louisville is all about Brohm. Take him away and its nothing special. Sure they have a very good offensive coach but what else do they got. They havent recruited a high profile QB since Brohm. Sharp decline coming in my estimation. Rutgers, waay to early to tell. WVU has a mickey mouse offense with 2 very special players, how sustainable is that system in the long run? Their defense is poor. Wiscosin, Iowa, Purdue have shown they can at least sustain consistant success. UM and OSU have never had as strong programs as both they have right now.

[Mizzou]

I don't follow college football, but if I wanted to see a Michigan - Ohio State rematch in the title game, who should I want to win this weekend between USC and Notre Dame?

[bukie]

I don't follow college football, but if I wanted to see a Michigan - Ohio State rematch in the title game, who should I want to win this weekend between USC and Notre Dame?

 

A Notre Dame win, followed by lack of voter impression on the quality of ND.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I don't follow college football, but if I wanted to see a Michigan - Ohio State rematch in the title game, who should I want to win this weekend between USC and Notre Dame?

 

A Notre Dame win, followed by lack of voter impression on the quality of ND.

 

USC win against ND followed by a UCLA win the week after. :D

[Derwood]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

looking back at their pre-Big 10 days, Penn State actually played quite a lot of games agains the Big East. 2 to 4 of Syracuse, Pitt, BC (who was Big East at the time), Rutgers, or Miami every year.

[NewUserName]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

looking back at their pre-Big 10 days, Penn State actually played quite a lot of games agains the Big East. 2 to 4 of Syracuse, Pitt, BC (who was Big East at the time), Rutgers, or Miami every year.

 

 

Believe it or not I think that there are Academic considerations for joining the Big Ten. I am not dissing the fine insitutions of the Big East but one of the reasons Penn St joined the Big Ten were for Academics.

[soccer10k]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

Lets see how those 3 teams can sustain it over more than 2-3 years (UL, WVU, RU). Louisville is all about Brohm. Take him away and its nothing special. Sure they have a very good offensive coach but what else do they got. They havent recruited a high profile QB since Brohm. Sharp decline coming in my estimation. Rutgers, waay to early to tell. WVU has a mickey mouse offense with 2 very special players, how sustainable is that system in the long run? Their defense is poor. Wiscosin, Iowa, Purdue have shown they can at least sustain consistant success. UM and OSU have never had as strong programs as both they have right now.

 

Louisville isn't all about Brohm. In 2004, Louisville went 11-1 - with their only loss being by 3 points at Miami - with Stefan LeFors at quarterback. Brohm didn't play much that year. So they have had a good team without Brohm as QB. This is also their fourth straight year with more than 9 wins (they went 9-4 in 2003).

 

WVU and Rutgers, yes they have something to prove. But Louisville has been a solid football program for a couple years now. Bobby Petrino is a very good coach and I don't see Louisville going anywhere.

[Derwood]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

looking back at their pre-Big 10 days, Penn State actually played quite a lot of games agains the Big East. 2 to 4 of Syracuse, Pitt, BC (who was Big East at the time), Rutgers, or Miami every year.

 

 

Believe it or not I think that there are Academic considerations for joining the Big Ten. I am not dissing the fine insitutions of the Big East but one of the reasons Penn St joined the Big Ten were for Academics.

 

And Penn State is forever trying to catch Michigan academically.

[CuseCubFan69]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

Lets see how those 3 teams can sustain it over more than 2-3 years (UL, WVU, RU). Louisville is all about Brohm. Take him away and its nothing special. Sure they have a very good offensive coach but what else do they got. They havent recruited a high profile QB since Brohm. Sharp decline coming in my estimation. Rutgers, waay to early to tell. WVU has a mickey mouse offense with 2 very special players, how sustainable is that system in the long run? Their defense is poor. Wiscosin, Iowa, Purdue have shown they can at least sustain consistant success. UM and OSU have never had as strong programs as both they have right now.

 

The backup QB for Louisville is the guy that ripped Miami apart and he was the QB against Kansas St. They have a very good system in place, trust me. WV has went undefeated a couple of times over the last 15 years and has always been solid. Rutgers, I agree that it's too early but as I've mentioned before they are a sleeping giant because of the area they are in. Let's not forget that Michigan went 7-5 last year either.

[cubweiser03]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

Lets see how those 3 teams can sustain it over more than 2-3 years (UL, WVU, RU). Louisville is all about Brohm. Take him away and its nothing special. Sure they have a very good offensive coach but what else do they got. They havent recruited a high profile QB since Brohm. Sharp decline coming in my estimation. Rutgers, waay to early to tell. WVU has a mickey mouse offense with 2 very special players, how sustainable is that system in the long run? Their defense is poor. Wiscosin, Iowa, Purdue have shown they can at least sustain consistant success. UM and OSU have never had as strong programs as both they have right now.

 

The backup QB for Louisville is the guy that ripped Miami apart and he was the QB against Kansas St. They have a very good system in place, trust me. WV has went undefeated a couple of times over the last 15 years and has always been solid. Rutgers, I agree that it's too early but as I've mentioned before they are a sleeping giant because of the area they are in. Let's not forget that Michigan went 7-5 last year either.

 

I forgot about Leflors a couple years back. He was pretty good. I dont doubt Petrino can turn talent, they rely on the QB so much for success at that program thats what im trying to say. Im only going off what ive seen them recruit at that position and this guy you are refering to may turn out good but coming to UL he wasnt as highly regarded as Brohm. Rutgers has a lot of upside because of Jersey, i wont dispute that, its just too early to tell.

 

Oh we remember 7-5. Heck they could of been 10-2 just as easily as 4-8. They replaced the DCord and you see what happened. They had the horse just not the right jockey. People think UM has always had this great talent and its not really true. They've had a few great playmakers through the 90's but they were never as talented as OSU was. They are just as talented as OSU is and now appear to be equal on recruiting. OSU now has a great coach they didnt have in the 90's and are still getting the same talent. I mentioned Wisconsin earlier and yesterday they just accepted their 2nd straight Citrus Bowl bid. Barry Alvarez was 8-3 in bowl games with 3 Rose Bowl wins. Wisconsin is so underappreciated as a football program its not even funny.

[CuseCubFan69]

ND would be iconic even if they joined a conference. I'd be surprised if the Big 11 wanted ND after the debacle in 1999.

 

They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year.

 

Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East.

 

Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game?

 

And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge

 

Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone.

 

Lets see how those 3 teams can sustain it over more than 2-3 years (UL, WVU, RU). Louisville is all about Brohm. Take him away and its nothing special. Sure they have a very good offensive coach but what else do they got. They havent recruited a high profile QB since Brohm. Sharp decline coming in my estimation. Rutgers, waay to early to tell. WVU has a mickey mouse offense with 2 very special players, how sustainable is that system in the long run? Their defense is poor. Wiscosin, Iowa, Purdue have shown they can at least sustain consistant success. UM and OSU have never had as strong programs as both they have right now.

 

The backup QB for Louisville is the guy that ripped Miami apart and he was the QB against Kansas St. They have a very good system in place, trust me. WV has went undefeated a couple of times over the last 15 years and has always been solid. Rutgers, I agree that it's too early but as I've mentioned before they are a sleeping giant because of the area they are in. Let's not forget that Michigan went 7-5 last year either.

 

I forgot about Leflors a couple years back. He was pretty good. I dont doubt Petrino can turn talent, they rely on the QB so much for success at that program thats what im trying to say. Im only going off what ive seen them recruit at that position and this guy you are refering to may turn out good but coming to UL he wasnt as highly regarded as Brohm. Rutgers has a lot of upside because of Jersey, i wont dispute that, its just too early to tell.

 

Oh we remember 7-5. Heck they could of been 10-2 just as easily as 4-8. They replaced the DCord and you see what happened. They had the horse just not the right jockey. People think UM has always had this great talent and its not really true. They've had a few great playmakers through the 90's but they were never as talented as OSU was. They are just as talented as OSU is and now appear to be equal on recruiting. OSU now has a great coach they didnt have in the 90's and are still getting the same talent. I mentioned Wisconsin earlier and yesterday they just accepted their 2nd straight Citrus Bowl bid. Barry Alvarez was 8-3 in bowl games with 3 Rose Bowl wins. Wisconsin is so underappreciated as a football program its not even funny.

 

I've always thought Wisconsin has had good teams but what bothered me this year is that they didn't beat anyone that was good, well really good, and they also scheduled 4 patsies out of conference. Also, not playing Ohio State is just plain wrong. I like it when all the teams play each other like the Big East and Pac 10 do.

[Derwood]

I've always thought Wisconsin has had good teams but what bothered me this year is that they didn't beat anyone that was good, well really good, and they also scheduled 4 patsies out of conference. Also, not playing Ohio State is just plain wrong. I like it when all the teams play each other like the Big East and Pac 10 do.

 

That's not Wisconsin's fault. The Big 10 has a 2 year rotating schedule that determines who is on/off the schedule. Some teams will always play each other (OSU and Michigan, PSU and MSU) but others rotate on and off. In 2005/2006, PSU did not play Iowa or Indiana, and the next 2 years, they don't play Minnesota or Northwestern. Heck, a few years back they went 2 seasons without playing Michigan. I also doubt the Big 10 is the only team that does this.

[CuseCubFan69]

I've always thought Wisconsin has had good teams but what bothered me this year is that they didn't beat anyone that was good, well really good, and they also scheduled 4 patsies out of conference. Also, not playing Ohio State is just plain wrong. I like it when all the teams play each other like the Big East and Pac 10 do.

 

That's not Wisconsin's fault. The Big 10 has a 2 year rotating schedule that determines who is on/off the schedule. Some teams will always play each other (OSU and Michigan, PSU and MSU) but others rotate on and off. In 2005/2006, PSU did not play Iowa or Indiana, and the next 2 years, they don't play Minnesota or Northwestern. Heck, a few years back they went 2 seasons without playing Michigan. I also doubt the Big 10 is the only team that does this.

 

Even more of a reason for them to schedule a couple of decent teams out of conference. They knew ahead of time they were not playing OSU and should have to make their schedule harder than it is.

 

As I said, the Big East and the Pac 10 might be the only ones that every team plays each other. I think it's just plain wrong not to play all the teams in your conference. Imagine if Dallas didn't play the Eagles or the Giants in any given year?

[CubColtPacer]

I've always thought Wisconsin has had good teams but what bothered me this year is that they didn't beat anyone that was good, well really good, and they also scheduled 4 patsies out of conference. Also, not playing Ohio State is just plain wrong. I like it when all the teams play each other like the Big East and Pac 10 do.

 

That's not Wisconsin's fault. The Big 10 has a 2 year rotating schedule that determines who is on/off the schedule. Some teams will always play each other (OSU and Michigan, PSU and MSU) but others rotate on and off. In 2005/2006, PSU did not play Iowa or Indiana, and the next 2 years, they don't play Minnesota or Northwestern. Heck, a few years back they went 2 seasons without playing Michigan. I also doubt the Big 10 is the only team that does this.

 

Even more of a reason for them to schedule a couple of decent teams out of conference. They knew ahead of time they were not playing OSU and should have to make their schedule harder than it is.

 

As I said, the Big East and the Pac 10 might be the only ones that every team plays each other. I think it's just plain wrong not to play all the teams in your conference. Imagine if Dallas didn't play the Eagles or the Giants in any given year?

 

It's actually possible that Wisconsin did not know they were going to play OSU when they made their schedule-usually the Big 10 doesn't release who you're not going to play till about a year before the next 2 year schedule starts. I do agree though that they have been a good team for a while-there is no reason at this point to schedule such a weak nonconference schedule.

 

The other conferences don't play each other for a simple reason-they all have too many members. A conference would have to have 10 or less members to even consider that.

[Jon]

Wow:

 

AP[/url]"]OKLAHOMA CITY -- The replay official for the Oklahoma-Oregon football game says he knew that Oklahoma recovered a pivotal onside kickoff late in the game.

 

But Gordon Riese told The Oklahoman that replay rules prevented him from correcting on-field officials who made the wrong call and awarded possession to Oregon, even though it was clear to Riese that Oklahoma's Allen Patrick had recovered the ball.

 

Riese also said that if he had seen the correct angle of the replay, it would have been easy to reverse the result of the call and give possession to Oklahoma, which could have run out the clock. But that didn't happen, he said, and Oregon took advantage of the officiating blunder, scoring a last-minute touchdown to win 34-33.

.........

 

The video also showed that Oklahoma's Patrick actually recovered the ball, although that aspect of the play was not reviewable.

 

"This was the easiest call to make, if I'd gotten the [correct] replay," Riese said. "It would have been the right call. It would have been the correct call. The Oregon kid touched the ball at the 44-yard line."

 

Riese said the only replay angle he saw on the play came from Oklahoma's end zone, which he said prevented him from making the correct call. But he did see something else.

 

"I saw the ball laying on the ground, the Oklahoma kid picks up the ball with his knee on the ground," he said. "I knew it was Oklahoma ball."

 

But, Riese said, he chose to follow the rules of the replay system, which meant he couldn't tell the on-field Pacific-10 Conference officials of their error -- even though the referee asked him which team had recovered.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Poor IMB.

[soccer10k]

Poor IMB.

 

Is there any way we can check if he's still alive?

[Warpticon]

I am overcome with excitement! Tomorrow's the big game--Arkansas/LSU. People started camping out and tailgating this afternoon. I will not be going downtown for any reason. And the basketball team is palying at 9:30AM in the Old Spice Classic, so I'll be in Hog Heaven for half the day tomorrow. Fun.

 

My call: if Hillis and Parker are good to go, Razorbacks by 10. If not, pick 'em.