College Football - Week of 11/25

[CuseCubFan69]

The thing I don't like about the BCS Bowls is that they are going to go after big name schools and teams that are just as good will be left out thus giving the bigger schools more publicity and keeping the status quo.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The thing I don't like about the BCS Bowls is that they are going to go after big name schools and teams that are just as good will be left out thus giving the bigger schools more publicity and keeping the status quo.

 

It's not just the BCS bowls. Mizzou has a shot at the Alamo Bowl, but may get passed over for Texas Tech or Kansas State, two teams that Mizzou trounced and have the same conference record as, because they travel better and give the bowl more $$$.

[CuseCubFan69]

The thing I don't like about the BCS Bowls is that they are going to go after big name schools and teams that are just as good will be left out thus giving the bigger schools more publicity and keeping the status quo.

 

It's not just the BCS bowls. Mizzou has a shot at the Alamo Bowl, but may get passed over for Texas Tech or Kansas State, two teams that Mizzou trounced and have the same conference record as, because they travel better and give the bowl more $$$.

 

You're right. Syracuse sucks when it comes to traveling and we always lost out to VTech or WV even if we had a better record. Another thing is the games ar always in the south or west and it's easier for those teams to bring fans that are closer to the destination.

[jjgman21]

 

 

edit - I think Buffalo might have given them alot of dough to schedule them as well.

 

Actually it's Wisconsin that's offering the money to Buffalo.

 

hmmm.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/23college.html?ei=5088&en=6c9319bdf85298db&ex=1313985600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

[CubColtPacer]

 

 

edit - I think Buffalo might have given them alot of dough to schedule them as well.

 

Actually it's Wisconsin that's offering the money to Buffalo.

 

hmmm.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/23college.html?ei=5088&en=6c9319bdf85298db&ex=1313985600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

 

Yup, that link proves Cuse's point.

 

Buffalo is just the kind of opponent some of the nation’s top-ranked teams are looking for — and are paying rapidly rising prices to play this season. The Bulls will travel this coming season to play Auburn, a national title contender, and Wisconsin, a perennial Big Ten Conference power. Although Buffalo appears destined to be humiliated, the university will receive a $600,000 appearance check for each game.

 

Buffalo is getting paid over half a million dollars by Wisconsin to let Wisconsin destroy them.

[jjgman21]

 

 

edit - I think Buffalo might have given them alot of dough to schedule them as well.

 

Actually it's Wisconsin that's offering the money to Buffalo.

 

hmmm.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/23college.html?ei=5088&en=6c9319bdf85298db&ex=1313985600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

 

Yup, that link proves Cuse's point.

 

Buffalo is just the kind of opponent some of the nation’s top-ranked teams are looking for — and are paying rapidly rising prices to play this season. The Bulls will travel this coming season to play Auburn, a national title contender, and Wisconsin, a perennial Big Ten Conference power. Although Buffalo appears destined to be humiliated, the university will receive a $600,000 appearance check for each game.

 

Buffalo is getting paid over half a million dollars by Wisconsin to let Wisconsin destroy them.

 

or, about as much as the Cap One Bowl pays.

[Derwood]

 

 

edit - I think Buffalo might have given them alot of dough to schedule them as well.

 

Actually it's Wisconsin that's offering the money to Buffalo.

 

hmmm.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/23college.html?ei=5088&en=6c9319bdf85298db&ex=1313985600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

 

Yup, that link proves Cuse's point.

 

Buffalo is just the kind of opponent some of the nation’s top-ranked teams are looking for — and are paying rapidly rising prices to play this season. The Bulls will travel this coming season to play Auburn, a national title contender, and Wisconsin, a perennial Big Ten Conference power. Although Buffalo appears destined to be humiliated, the university will receive a $600,000 appearance check for each game.

 

Buffalo is getting paid over half a million dollars by Wisconsin to let Wisconsin destroy them.

 

or, about as much as the Cap One Bowl pays.

 

crap like this makes the "but the athletes get a free education" defense real weak. The University is willing to throw it's players to the hounds in order to build a new wing on the library. AWESOME

[cubweiser03]

Sweet investigational work. We talk about a team, it evolves into another subject and boom a story appears. Release the News Hounds!

[Andy]

Guarantee games (as games like Buff/Wisconsin are called) are a fact of life. Ball State has decided not to play Purdue anymore because the Boilers weren't giving them enough money. SEC teams (like Auburn who we play I think in 2008) are offering over triple the money that Purdue is to play BSU. Of course, after the IU/Mich/Purdue games (BSU lost by a combined 18 points in the three games), teams might not be so eager to have the Cards in for a game. :wink:

[soccer10k]

Bowl payouts actually go to the conferences who then divy out the money equally among the members of the conference.

[TruffleShuffle]

crap like this makes the "but the athletes get a free education" defense real weak. The University is willing to throw it's players to the hounds in order to build a new wing on the library. AWESOME

 

It doesn't work this way. The money made in these guarantee games goes to supporting the athletic department. Here are two important parts of that NYT article:

 

Football home games are typically the primary source of revenue for an entire athletic department. Other than football, the only college sport that makes consistent money is men’s basketball. The other men’s and women’s sports, except in rare cases, cost more to run than they generate.

 

I'm partial to this because I was a swimmer in college, and we obviously didn't generate any revenue. Sports like track, swimming, wrestling, lacrosse and field hockey can often be on the chopping block in schools which don't generate much revenue. At many schools, the profits from the football team are used to support other non-revenue sports. Without these guarantee games, schools like Buffalo and Troy St would probably have to fold some of their non-revenue sports.

 

For the weaker teams, a bigger appearance check means a chance to upgrade. Buffalo Coach Turner Gill said the Bulls were able to buy new furniture for their football complex and improve their weight room with the $1.5 million from their three nonconference road games. Buffalo plays in the Mid-American Conference.

 

Louisiana-Monroe, which received $700,000 for a game at Kansas, has already spent the money on video equipment. Florida Atlantic, in the Sun Belt Conference with Louisiana-Monroe, will make more than $1.8 million by opening the schedule with games at Clemson, Kansas State, Oklahoma State and South Carolina. That is nearly twice what Florida Atlantic made for playing its four nonconference games last season.

 

I think this is a good thing too. Let's face it, Buffalo and ULM probably aren't drawing huge crowds. The big-time BCS programs can easily generate enough revenue in their home games to have top-flight facilities, but a school like Buffalo can't. The money has to come from somewhere, and I'll go out on a limb and guess that the Buffalo boosters aren't chipping in the same amount that boosters at a Texas or a Michigan pour into the program. So, the best way to have good facilities that can attract recruits (not to mention have the money to make recruiting trips) and improve the football team is to play games in which you're making a handsome profit despite going on the road.