Matsuzaka: Red Sox Win w/ $51.1M Bid

[RammyFanny]

I would be surprised if the Cubs won the bid but at least, if the reports are true, the Yankees didn't win the bid.

 

Just increases the likelyhood they buy a Schmidt or Zito though.

[erik316wttn]

$42 million for negotiating rights is completely and utterly stupid. If they sign Drew (per rotoworld) as well, they'll easily spend $100 million in one day. That's ridiculous. I applaud Hendry for not joining this madness.

 

ESPNews reported it as $42 million as well.

[Balsa]

According to the Associated Press, MLB and the Japanese commissioner's office will make simultaneous announcements tomorrow, Tuesday, at 8 pm EDT, to announce whether the Seibu Lions will accept the bid to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka. The name of the winning team will also be disclosed.

[davearm]

XM radio is reporting that the BoSox win the sweepstakes with a bid in excess of $50 mil

 

Wow, that is absolutely ridiculous. I just cannot fathom paying that much for one unproven player in the MLB.

 

they'll make it back and then some in t-shirt sales alone.

 

If that is the case I don't understand why every team in the league didn't bid that much.

 

Every team doesn't sell as many t-shirts as Boston.

But every team gets the same $$$ as Boston does for every Boston t-shirt sold.

 

MLB splits licensing revenues equally amongst all 30 clubs.

[SouthSideRyan]

XM radio is reporting that the BoSox win the sweepstakes with a bid in excess of $50 mil

 

Wow, that is absolutely ridiculous. I just cannot fathom paying that much for one unproven player in the MLB.

 

they'll make it back and then some in t-shirt sales alone.

 

Aren't all merchandise sales redistributed equally to all 30 teams?

[mul21]

XM radio is reporting that the BoSox win the sweepstakes with a bid in excess of $50 mil

 

Wow, that is absolutely ridiculous. I just cannot fathom paying that much for one unproven player in the MLB.

 

they'll make it back and then some in t-shirt sales alone.

 

Aren't all merchandise sales redistributed equally to all 30 teams?

 

Yes, but not TV revenues, which is where the big money is.

[davearm]

XM radio is reporting that the BoSox win the sweepstakes with a bid in excess of $50 mil

 

Wow, that is absolutely ridiculous. I just cannot fathom paying that much for one unproven player in the MLB.

 

they'll make it back and then some in t-shirt sales alone.

 

Aren't all merchandise sales redistributed equally to all 30 teams?

 

Yes, but not TV revenues, which is where the big money is.

... and Matsuzaka isn't likely to have much impact on Boston's TV revenues, either.

 

Unless you believe NESN will be able to charge cable providers more in rights fees now that Matsuzaka is on the team.

 

Their geographic TV market will not change, though.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I know it's HIGHLY unlikely, with all the "sources" saying the same thing, but wouldn't it be a HUGE EGG in the faces of the likes of Ostrede/Heyman/Gammons, if Boston is not the winning bid?

 

Again, I know it's unlikely, but, I would laugh my booty off.

[goonys evil twin]

I know it's HIGHLY unlikely, with all the "sources" saying the same thing, but wouldn't it be a HUGE EGG in the faces of the likes of Ostrede/Heyman/Gammons, if Boston is not the winning bid?

 

Again, I know it's unlikely, but, I would laugh my booty off.

 

You enjoy seeing people humiliated?

[Omar]

Anyone here also would never spend $50 million, just to bid on a player??

[C.C.]

I know it's HIGHLY unlikely, with all the "sources" saying the same thing, but wouldn't it be a HUGE EGG in the faces of the likes of Ostrede/Heyman/Gammons, if Boston is not the winning bid?

 

Again, I know it's unlikely, but, I would laugh my booty off.

 

You enjoy seeing people humiliated?

 

It depends who?

[NorthsideAvenger]

I know it's HIGHLY unlikely, with all the "sources" saying the same thing, but wouldn't it be a HUGE EGG in the faces of the likes of Ostrede/Heyman/Gammons, if Boston is not the winning bid?

 

Again, I know it's unlikely, but, I would laugh my booty off.

 

You enjoy seeing people humiliated?

 

Let me preface this response, with the fact that I love watching the show "Punk'd".

 

Depends on the person/organization, yes, I do enjoy seeing people/organization get humilated. Especially an unoffical ESPN sponsored team like the Yankees or the Red Sox. It's the nature of the beast, if you are going to be a "reporter."

 

Besides, once in awhile, a little egg in the face, does help keep a reporters ego in check.

[questionmarkgrace]

from rotoworld

 

According to MLB.com, the Rangers bid $27 million for Daisuke Matsuzaka, whose rights are expected to go to Boston.

 

While the club fell short, it's nice to see that owner Tom Hicks opened the purse-strings and made a legitimate bid. That money could now be applied to an offer to Barry Zito. If they miss out on him, too, they'll likely to turn to Jeff Suppan and Ted Lilly. Also, they'd like to re-sign Vicente Padilla, though they feel he's asking for too much at the moment.

[Electron Blue]

at this point, it would be a media coup if any team but Boston has won the bidding

[sethuel1]

I know it's HIGHLY unlikely, with all the "sources" saying the same thing, but wouldn't it be a HUGE EGG in the faces of the likes of Ostrede/Heyman/Gammons, if Boston is not the winning bid?

 

Again, I know it's unlikely, but, I would laugh my booty off.

 

You enjoy seeing people humiliated?

schadenfreude

[Laura]

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There's still some debate over the amount of the winning bid. One source insisted that the original report of $38-45 million as Boston's winning bid is "not accurate." While it seemed farfetched that the bid could actually be higher than $45 million, several people here believe that it was. One rumor going around the lobby was $51 million. If it's $45 million or more, that's more than the 2006 payrolls of four teams: Florida, Tampa Bay, Colorado and Pittsburgh

 

Any amount in that stratosphere for only the right to negotiate shows just how valuable a No. 1 starter is. But it may also reflect how much Boston believes Matsuzaka will boost marketing revenues. He is probably worth more to Boston and the two New York teams since they have their own TV stations. But going in, no one thought he'd be worth quite this much.

 

Either that or someone needs to stay away from EBay auctions. :)

[nilodnayr]

Here's a thread with the BoSox updated current committed budget. They've said they want to stay within the luxury tax threshold of $148M. The posting fee -- whatever it turns out to be -- doesn't count against that payroll. The link above assumes a $140ishM payroll.

 

Depends on the contracts, but they shouldn't have a problem affording both and staying within the $148M.

 

While true they should have no problem staying under the lux tax point, the posting fee doesnt grow on trees. It has to come from somewhere.

[Laura]

It likely came from the same place that Texas' rumored $27M bid and the Cubs' rumored $24M bid came from ... presumably from ownership. Perhaps someone here can lend insight.

 

There have been discussions of how teams account for bids like this somewhere here. In the past, the fees haven't been reflected in team payroll numbers either as a lump sum or as a per-year-cost over the life of the subsequent contract.

 

Since we were talking about whether the Red Sox could afford Drew in terms of payroll after (presumably) winning the bidding for and signing Matsuke, the payroll numbers are relevant for Drew.

[Laura]

Phil Rogers puts the Cubs' bid "in the range of $25 million to $30 million."

[Careless]

XM radio is reporting that the BoSox win the sweepstakes with a bid in excess of $50 mil

 

Wow, that is absolutely ridiculous. I just cannot fathom paying that much for one unproven player in the MLB.

 

they'll make it back and then some in t-shirt sales alone.

 

Aren't all merchandise sales redistributed equally to all 30 teams?

 

Yes, but not TV revenues, which is where the big money is.

Apparently international tv revenues are shared

[nilodnayr]

It likely came from the same place that Texas' rumored $27M bid and the Cubs' rumored $24M bid came from ... presumably from ownership. Perhaps someone here can lend insight.

 

Yes, however, 24-27M is just a bit less than 45M. Evidently though it hasn't affected their chances since all reports say they've already offered Drew a contract.

 

And just put yourself in BoSox FO shoes...you are probably cracking up, freaking out, and crying about all of these $s being thrown out regarding the winning Matsuzaka bid (depending on what they actually bid).

[ChiCubsFan]

Phil Rogers puts the Cubs' bid "in the range of $25 million to $30 million."

 

Can't blame them for not going higher than that.

[nilodnayr]

Phil Rogers puts the Cubs' bid "in the range of $25 million to $30 million."

 

Not that I feel he has any better info than the dustbunnies living under my bed, but I'd be happy with that bid regardless of if we win or lose the rights to talk to Mats.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Phil Rogers puts the Cubs' bid "in the range of $25 million to $30 million."

 

Not that I feel he has any better info than the dustbunnies living under my bed, but I'd be happy with that bid regardless of if we win or lose the rights to talk to Mats.

 

So do I.

 

I mean if Ichiro (who at the time is more popular in Japan then Matsuazaka is now) only had a $11 million posting fee, what makes Matsuazaka worth almost $40 mill in posting fees?

 

IMO, I highly doubt that Matsuazaka is going to be worth the fees the Boston is willing to give for him.

[Laura]

But all the media says it's part of a brilliant strategy to make money hand over fist. Surely they didn't just overbid.

 

So where do you think the posting fee came from?

 

ETA -- actually, I'm moving this discussion to the other thread since this is the JD Drew thread.