Reds (Lowder) vs Cubs (Imanaga): 5/7/26, 1:20pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

Are you all enjoying yourselves yet? Another extra-inning win, and now it's a 1:20pm start in the Friendly Confines.

	SAT	SUN	MON	TUE	WED	TOT
Trent Thornton	0	0	0	0	6	6
Ryan Rolison	0	0	14	18	0	32
Phil Maton	0	25	4	0	12	41
Javier Assad	0	0	0	17	0	17
Jacob Webb	0	0	0	17	14	31
Hoby Milner	0	15	12	0	25	52
Daniel Palencia	0	0	0	15	0	15
Corbin Martin	0	26	0	0	11	37
Ben Brown	24	0	25	0	0	49

[mk49]

Bullpen looks tough, if Ben is going to start tomorrow.  Hopefully, Shota will pitch at least 6 innings.

[Outshined_One]

Shota pitching 6-7 innings would go a long way in making me feel better about their chances this weekend.  Texas has been lackluster on offense this season, but going into that series with a spent pen could be a disaster.

[squally1313]

18 minutes ago, mk49 said:

Bullpen looks tough, if Ben is going to start tomorrow.  Hopefully, Shota will pitch at least 6 innings.

Yeah, if you're trying to avoid 3 appearances in 4 days, you're down to Thornton, Assad, Palencia, and Martin. I don't know how they feel about using Assad as a high frequency reliever, Palencia is one inning max, and the other two guys are...Tyler Thornton and Corbin Martin. I guess Thornton is on batting practice duty if this goes sideways. 

[Geographyhater8888]

Making the Reds lose in agonizing fashion was fun. I’d prefer a drama free 12-1 win.

[macarthur31]

Checked out Lowder's game logs - through his first 6 starts, he was at 3.10 ERA and going 5-6 IP.  But, his last start against @PIT - he went 1.1 IP and allowed 8 ER, which ballooned it up to 5.09.  Was that the game where PIT had 8 BB in a row, or something?  (I'm guessing cause Lowder had 4 BB and his replacement, Phillips gave up 4 BB without getting an out.)

[squally1313]

Corbin Martin DFAed, so assume there's a fresh arm inbound. 

[Brian707]

47 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Shota pitching 6-7 innings would go a long way in making me feel better about their chances this weekend.  Texas has been lackluster on offense this season, but going into that series with a spent pen could be a disaster.

Just get up 12 runs thru 6 and have Shaw or someone pitch

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

6 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Corbin Martin DFAed

[chibears55]

11 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Corbin Martin DFAed, so assume there's a fresh arm inbound. 

Hollowell is back up

[mk49]

1 minute ago, chibears55 said:

Hollowell is back up

That would help.

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, mk49 said:

Bullpen looks tough, if Ben is going to start tomorrow.  Hopefully, Shota will pitch at least 6 innings.

Brown may start, but id expect it to be a bullpen game.  Brown having pitched twice this week, might only be able to go 3 innings top, likely not use Assad today and go with him tomorrow too.

Theyre likely going to need to make another move tomorrow for a fresh arm

Edited 1 hour ago by chibears55

[mul21]

2 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Brown may start, but id expect it to be a bullpen game.  Brown having pitched twice this week, might only be able to go 3 innings top.

They're going to need to make another move tomorrow for a fresh arm

He threw 25 pitches on Monday.  Unless they have him on a pitch count of like 75-80 (which is entirely possible given how he's been used), I don't think there will be any restrictions on how deep he can go.

[Bertz]

5 minutes ago, mul21 said:

He threw 25 pitches on Monday.  Unless they have him on a pitch count of like 75-80 (which is entirely possible given how he's been used), I don't think there will be any restrictions on how deep he can go.

I'd assume he tops out at 3-4 innings this first time out.  He hasn't thrown more than 50 pitches in an outing this year and has only topped 4 once in the past month

[mul21]

1 minute ago, Bertz said:

I'd assume he tops out at 3-4 innings this first time out.  He hasn't thrown more than 50 pitches in an outing this year and has only topped 4 once in the past month

Right, but that's unrelated to how many times he's thrown this week, which is what was implied in the post I was replying to.

[chibears55]

Lmao...  

Craig Counsell said Daniel Palencia wasn't going to pitch tonight. He pitched on Tuesday, but he was also dry humped twice on Monday.

"We told him off the IL, we’re just going to be safe with this & not a back to back in your first kind of set here.”

https://x.com/i/status/2052046298862268819

[Derwood]

With Boyd's injury, they simply HAVE to figure out another starting pitching option. This bullpen isn't built for 40% of the starts going to Rea and bullpen games

[chibears55]

16 minutes ago, mul21 said:

He threw 25 pitches on Monday.  Unless they have him on a pitch count of like 75-80 (which is entirely possible given how he's been used), I don't think there will be any restrictions on how deep he can go.

He pitched Saturday and Monday, he not stretched out enough to go more than 50 pitches, that would take him to about 3 innings, like I said theyll likely piggy back him and Assad and or just be a bullpen game.

[Rex Buckingham]

10 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Lmao...  

Craig Counsell said Daniel Palencia wasn't going to pitch tonight. He pitched on Tuesday, but he was also dry humped twice on Monday.

"We told him off the IL, we’re just going to be safe with this & not a back to back in your first kind of set here.”

https://x.com/i/status/2052046298862268819

It appears you have a problem with this strategy... I personally think it is better to have our closer available in October than to win an extra game or two in May and have his arm fall off, but what do I know?

[chibears55]

6 minutes ago, Derwood said:

With Boyd's injury, they simply HAVE to figure out another starting pitching option. This bullpen isn't built for 40% of the starts going to Rea and bullpen games

Gonna need to either look at the current list of Pitchers unsigned or try and make a trade for a Brown/Rea/Assad type starter that could be available on a team AAA roster or in their bullpen .

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, Rex Buckingham said:

It appears you have a problem with this strategy... I personally think it is better to have our closer available in October than to win an extra game or two in May and have his arm fall off, but what do I know?

No, my 12 year old self is laughing at the video attached about the dry hump 😅

I fully get why Palencia wasn't used in back to back days now

[Jason Ross]

55 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Corbin Martin DFAed, so assume there's a fresh arm inbound. 

Hollowell.

[Rcal10]

17 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Gonna need to either look at the current list of Pitchers unsigned or try and make a trade for a Brown/Rea/Assad type starter that could be available on a team AAA roster or in their bullpen .

Why would they trade for a pitcher like Brown/Assad/Rea when they have 3 of them already? If all they are going to do is get a guy like those guys why not wait it out a little and when Theilbar comes back they don’t have to add a rotation starter. They already have him with the combo of Brown/Rea/Assad. 
If Theilbar and/or Harvey is weeks away, maybe they do have to add someone now. But if either is closer to 8-10 days they can probably piece things together a little longer. If all they are going to get is a guy like the guys they have for that spot. I would rather wait if only 7-10 days. 

[Rcal10]

Yesterday I was all over Counsel for his managing of that game. However, with hindsight I do see reasonings. First, letting Rea pitch the 6th. He was hoping he could milk 6 out of him with a depleted pen. So I get that. Next, not saving Maton for the 9th knowing he didn’t have Palencia. I believe the 8th inning was the better hitters coming up, so he used him for that inning. I guess I get that too. But I don’t like Martin for the 9th as his closer option. I also would have bunted with Nico when he came up with 1st and 2nd and no outs. Losing Shaw without even giving him a PA is also something I didn’t like. 
IMO, still not a great managed game, but I at least see his options and what he may have been thinking.