Week 13: Bears at Eagles Friday 2pm on Prime

[Wilson A2000]

3 hours ago, BigbadB said:

This game thread was a tough read. I don't go outside when it's this cold and there are 35 MPH gusts, and half of this game thread is bashing Caleb's accuracy. Anybody see that field goal attempt by Phily? Looked like a few of those pass plays. 

Then you have a guy getting mad at Ben Johnson for having Caleb try one downfield on 2nd and 1, with the argument of just running it for a first down. Ben certainly didn't invent going for a big play on 2nd and 1, but it's absolutely the time to do it, because 3rd and 1 or even 4th and 1 is kind of an easy play. 

Can Caleb be more accurate? Sure. It might be the only thing he has left to improve in Ben's offense. But haters on a blustery day need to take a pill. 

Me? I'm already imagining some stud level DE's wanting to be a part of this team next year and if not, fine, we will draft a bunch of them. I just can't get over the fact this D only gave up 14 points with so many players missing on D. They didn't let Saquon beat them. They didn't let Hurts beat them. I'm not sure Bigsby even saw the field. 2 more turnovers. So much to love. 

The wind was definitely a factor for both QBs, but Caleb’s accuracy issues and poor footwork predate yesterday’s game. I couldn’t be much happier with where the Bears are at right now, but for the Bears to take the next step, Caleb has to be a lot better. The Bears should be blowing teams out.

[Bertz]

3 hours ago, BigbadB said:

This game thread was a tough read. I don't go outside when it's this cold and there are 35 MPH gusts, and half of this game thread is bashing Caleb's accuracy. Anybody see that field goal attempt by Phily? Looked like a few of those pass plays. 

This is largely the same fanbase that flatly refused to acknowledge how the wind blowing in at Wrigley impacts offense, so this behavior tracks.

[Geographyhater8888]

17 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

The wind was definitely a factor for both QBs, but Caleb’s accuracy issues and poor footwork predate yesterday’s game. I couldn’t be much happier with where the Bears are at right now, but for the Bears to take the next step, Caleb has to be a lot better. The Bears should be blowing teams out.

34/67 in the 2 prior games and 74/137 in the first 4 games of the month. Bad drops, receivers falling, there’s been a lot of slop all around but it’s foolish to pretend this hasn’t been a recurring theme independent of weather elements. It’s okay to acknowledge his strengths while discussing stuff he needs to clean up to take this team to another level.

Justin fields was a sacred cow who could do no wrong and we’re in cycle number 2. Caleb is much better than Fields FWIW.

Edited November 29, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[CubinNY]

14 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Yes, but having this good of a line never hurts

They have a great run blocking line. They have a better than average pass blocking line. It’s time for Caleb to step up.

The wind conditions weren’t optimal yesterday, so we can’t be too hard on him. 

[Brian707]

1 hour ago, Derwood said:

Welcome to the positive point differential club!

Also, that Ravens loss is really horsefeathers annoying considering how bad they've been recently

At least it was a non conference loss. 

 

[NorthsideAvenger]

Bears: 39:18

Eagles: 20:42

 

[Soul]

53 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Bears: 39:18

Eagles: 20:42

 

Quite unbelievable.  I guess that’s what happens when you have 2 RBs over 100 yards.

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

They have a great run blocking line. They have a better than average pass blocking line. It’s time for Caleb to step up.

The wind conditions weren’t optimal yesterday, so we can’t be too hard on him. 

It's only a matter of time, not if, but, when.  The accuracy and footwork issues are correctable, when he starts to hit on 65-67% of his attempts, the numbers are really going to pop.  This is not a Justin or Mitch situation with in-correctable flaws dooming them to failure.

What's interesting is the Bears take on other sites.  I see quite a bit of it's just luck, they'll be the same old Bears in the future.  Honestly, they sound in denial.  A few posters are not so fast, they acknowledge the coaching improvement, the improved offense and they'll probably be able to fix the defense in the off season.  Maybe coming to grips with Bears' future being bright.

[Banedon]

Sorry for the twitter post but...Wright destroying guys is so much fun...
 

 

[Soul]

18 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

It's only a matter of time, not if, but, when.  The accuracy and footwork issues are correctable, when he starts to hit on 65-67% of his attempts, the numbers are really going to pop.  This is not a Justin or Mitch situation with in-correctable flaws dooming them to failure.

What's interesting is the Bears take on other sites.  I see quite a bit of it's just luck, they'll be the same old Bears in the future.  Honestly, they sound in denial.  A few posters are not so fast, they acknowledge the coaching improvement, the improved offense and they'll probably be able to fix the defense in the off season.  Maybe coming to grips with Bears' future being bright.

I mean, it takes a serious level of denial to not recognize the immediate impact of hiring a coach like BJ.  Sure, they’ll probably drop some games and it will make the doubters feel good but this a coaching staff on par with the best and it’s the first season.

[NorthsideAvenger]

35 minutes ago, Soul said:

Quite unbelievable.  I guess that’s what happens when you have 2 RBs over 100 yards.

Pure dominance. 

[CubinNY]

45 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

It's only a matter of time, not if, but, when.  The accuracy and footwork issues are correctable, when he starts to hit on 65-67% of his attempts, the numbers are really going to pop.  This is not a Justin or Mitch situation with in-correctable flaws dooming them to failure.

What's interesting is the Bears take on other sites.  I see quite a bit of it's just luck, they'll be the same old Bears in the future.  Honestly, they sound in denial.  A few posters are not so fast, they acknowledge the coaching improvement, the improved offense and they'll probably be able to fix the defense in the off season.  Maybe coming to grips with Bears' future being bright.

Agree.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think one of the more promising things about the offense is that nobody seems to really stop them. They make mistakes, Caleb misses on a deep throw, etc but they don’t seem like they are going to get stopped dead in their tracks…ever.  First year system that can only improve

 

 

[gflore34]

5 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

I think one of the more promising things about the offense is that nobody seems to really stop them. They make mistakes, Caleb misses on a deep throw, etc but they don’t seem like they are going to get stopped dead in their tracks…ever.  First year system that can only improve

 

 

With Mitch and Justin you knew almost any early procedure, etc. penalty was a drive killer.  This offense can, as you said, overcome some early mistakes.  Haven't seen such resilience on offense for the Bears in a long, long time.

[minnesotacubsfan]

9 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

The wind was definitely a factor for both QBs, but Caleb’s accuracy issues and poor footwork predate yesterday’s game. I couldn’t be much happier with where the Bears are at right now, but for the Bears to take the next step, Caleb has to be a lot better. The Bears should be blowing teams out.

That was the defending Super Bowl Champions, who were 8-3. Beating them in ANY WAY is a big deal, and the Bears did it convincingly. 

I would agree it would be better if we were winning 35-10, but giving the circumstances (new coach, young QB, dearth of talent on DL) I can more than live with it. I think the Bears have a legitimate chance at getting to the NFC Championship game, from there who knows

 

Edited November 30, 2025 by minnesotacubsfan

[Wilson A2000]

2 hours ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

That was the defending Super Bowl Champions, who were 8-3. Beating them in ANY WAY is a big deal, and the Bears did it convincingly. 

I would agree it would be better if we were winning 35-10, but giving the circumstances (new coach, young QB, dearth of talent on DL) I can more than live with it. I think the Bears have a legitimate chance at getting to the NFC Championship game, from there who knows

 

Gotta stay healthy. If you are going to have an entire position group go down for a few weeks, let it be the linebackers. And the backups have tackled well and that’s all you can ask for. 

[Wilson A2000]

Ben Johnson might be the most stoic coach during a game I have seen. I don’t think I’ve seen him get pumped up or angry on the field ever. Maybe when Dennis Allen chest bumps him after the game. But man, the locker room stuff is awesome. I’ve been critical of Kevin Warren and how he is handling the new stadium. But he was instrumental in getting the McCaskeys to pony up for Ben and getting him locked up as soon as he was available and he should get a ton of credit for that. Poles is definitely looking better too and hitting on his high and low draft picks coupled with some really good FA signings. Ryan and Ben are in the running for GM and coach of the year. I do wonder if Poles now thinks he should have gone after an edge rusher at the trade deadline or if he held back from the big move thinking this wasn’t our year.

[BigSlick]

My heart isn’t prepared for Packers week yet

[BigbadB]

8 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Ben Johnson might be the most stoic coach during a game I have seen. I don’t think I’ve seen him get pumped up or angry on the field ever. Maybe when Dennis Allen chest bumps him after the game. But man, the locker room stuff is awesome. I’ve been critical of Kevin Warren and how he is handling the new stadium. But he was instrumental in getting the McCaskeys to pony up for Ben and getting him locked up as soon as he was available and he should get a ton of credit for that. Poles is definitely looking better too and hitting on his high and low draft picks coupled with some really good FA signings. Ryan and Ben are in the running for GM and coach of the year. I do wonder if Poles now thinks he should have gone after an edge rusher at the trade deadline or if he held back from the big move thinking this wasn’t our year.

I had something similar about Poles typed up yesterday and deleted it. His tenure has been littered with fireable type moves. Some were decent looking gambles that just didn't work out. Some were just so plain rotten, that you couldn't possibly find any good in it, unless you squint and see that the failure decision worked out so bad that it worked out so good.

The trade down with Carolina was brilliant, even if you don't end up with Caleb. Who could have ever imagined that Carolina would be the worst team in the league? On paper, I don't think they were expected to be that bad. And Lovie Smith played his part in making the magic happen on that, too. 

Eberflus being so bad with Caleb and this roster that he gets fired, the replacement guys get fired and Ben Johnson sees immediate success if he jumps ship. From losing games by Hail Mary to 9-3, and two of those losses were also winnable. I remember how dejected I was after that first game loss to Minny. That seems so long ago now since Ben put a jinx on late game losses.

If Poles doesn't make that trade with Carolina, he might just be unemployed right now. Instead, we are discussing him in GM of the Year chances. He hired Ben, and made the moves to fix the OLine and this offense is really starting to take form.

 

[Geographyhater8888]

51 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

I had something similar about Poles typed up yesterday and deleted it. His tenure has been littered with fireable type moves. Some were decent looking gambles that just didn't work out. Some were just so plain rotten, that you couldn't possibly find any good in it, unless you squint and see that the failure decision worked out so bad that it worked out so good.

The trade down with Carolina was brilliant, even if you don't end up with Caleb. Who could have ever imagined that Carolina would be the worst team in the league? On paper, I don't think they were expected to be that bad. And Lovie Smith played his part in making the magic happen on that, too. 

Eberflus being so bad with Caleb and this roster that he gets fired, the replacement guys get fired and Ben Johnson sees immediate success if he jumps ship. From losing games by Hail Mary to 9-3, and two of those losses were also winnable. I remember how dejected I was after that first game loss to Minny. That seems so long ago now since Ben put a jinx on late game losses.

If Poles doesn't make that trade with Carolina, he might just be unemployed right now. Instead, we are discussing him in GM of the Year chances. He hired Ben, and made the moves to fix the OLine and this offense is really starting to take form.

 

He acquired the only play maker on Carolina DJ Moore and fetched their second round pick. That played a role in their 2-15 record with the Help of Bryce Young. He gets credit for that. His round 3-4 picks and trading pick 32 for Chase Claypool are his biggest offenses, especially in a strategic tank year where if Claypool is worth half a sh1t maybe the Bears net an extra win, have the third pick and no haul. Too much investment in pass catchers. 
 

But Darnell Wright was the right pick then and certainly is now. He deserves all the credit for that. 

[Geographyhater8888]

12 hours ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

That was the defending Super Bowl Champions, who were 8-3. Beating them in ANY WAY is a big deal, and the Bears did it convincingly. 

I would agree it would be better if we were winning 35-10, but giving the circumstances (new coach, young QB, dearth of talent on DL) I can more than live with it. I think the Bears have a legitimate chance at getting to the NFC Championship game, from there who knows

 

Ezra credit for extending their lead and figuring out how to finish games with the TD pass to Kmet to make the score 24-9. They’ve struggled at adding to their lead late in games so that was encouraging to see, especially Caleb putting the perfect touch on a pass he almost always misses.

[Banedon]

On 11/29/2025 at 7:15 AM, Banedon said:

I don't get the criticism of Sirianni's choice to go for 2.

1) He had to do it at some point.
2) By doing it earlier, you know what you need to do the rest of the way.  If you mess up, you know how many scores you need.  If you get the rest of the scores and miss the 2 at the very end, you're screwed. 

But everybody seems to be shitting on him for that decision like the problem was the choice and not the execution.

So yeah, Sirianni basically had the same thoughts I did.  Sorry for the facebook link.  I'm sure there's a link elsewhere but I'm too lazy to look for it.
 

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[NorthsideAvenger]

7 hours ago, BigSlick said:

My heart isn’t prepared for Packers week yet

First time since Lovie that I am looking forward to the Packers game. Not saying the Bears will win, saying the Bears have a coaching staff that will put their players in position to win this game. 

If you can overcome being a 7 point dogs against the Eagles in Philadelphia, you can overcome being a 6.5 dogs against the Packers. 

[CubinNY]

Poles hasn’t lucked his way into this, but he’s incompetented his way into this and deserves nothing more than praise for doing the bare minimum and not saying no to an obvious choice to coach this team. The best thing that can happen is that Johnson takes more control of personnel decisions moving forward. 

[Wilson A2000]

4 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Poles hasn’t lucked his way into this, but he’s incompetented his way into this and deserves nothing more than praise for doing the bare minimum and not saying no to an obvious choice to coach this team. The best thing that can happen is that Johnson takes more control of personnel decisions moving forward. 

Both Wrights, Trapilo, Dalman, Benedet, Monangai, Swift, Williams, Moore, Jackson, Thuney, Burden, Odunze, Loveland, Byard, Brisker, Stevenson, Gordon, and Sweat have all been hits. We can finally say Poles has had a lot more hits than misses. Every GM is going to have misses, but he’s finally hitting on many more.