Week 13: Bears at Eagles Friday 2pm on Prime

[cwood218]

4 hours ago, 17 Seconds said:

0-2 feels like forever ago

It's crazy, the Bears now have a coach that is so good he willing gave the league a head start just to make it interesting.

Edited November 29, 2025 by cwood218

[jersey cubs fan]

5 hours ago, BigSlick said:

If you're like me, these videos are like crack

 

 

I’m in love 

[BigbadB]

This game thread was a tough read. I don't go outside when it's this cold and there are 35 MPH gusts, and half of this game thread is bashing Caleb's accuracy. Anybody see that field goal attempt by Phily? Looked like a few of those pass plays. 

Then you have a guy getting mad at Ben Johnson for having Caleb try one downfield on 2nd and 1, with the argument of just running it for a first down. Ben certainly didn't invent going for a big play on 2nd and 1, but it's absolutely the time to do it, because 3rd and 1 or even 4th and 1 is kind of an easy play. 

Can Caleb be more accurate? Sure. It might be the only thing he has left to improve in Ben's offense. But haters on a blustery day need to take a pill. 

Me? I'm already imagining some stud level DE's wanting to be a part of this team next year and if not, fine, we will draft a bunch of them. I just can't get over the fact this D only gave up 14 points with so many players missing on D. They didn't let Saquon beat them. They didn't let Hurts beat them. I'm not sure Bigsby even saw the field. 2 more turnovers. So much to love. 

[BigbadB]

Swift and Monangai came out after the game together sporting nothing up top besides a Tshirt to do an interview, and if you didn't know who they were and were asked to tell you what position they played, LB would have been your only answer. Both of those guys are solid muscle and hulked up.

 

[cwood218]

27 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

Me? I'm already imagining some stud level DE's.

Would be nice, but those guys usually don't last until pick #32.  😁

Edited November 29, 2025 by cwood218

[Geographyhater8888]

46 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

This game thread was a tough read. I don't go outside when it's this cold and there are 35 MPH gusts, and half of this game thread is bashing Caleb's accuracy. Anybody see that field goal attempt by Phily? Looked like a few of those pass plays. 

Then you have a guy getting mad at Ben Johnson for having Caleb try one downfield on 2nd and 1, with the argument of just running it for a first down. Ben certainly didn't invent going for a big play on 2nd and 1, but it's absolutely the time to do it, because 3rd and 1 or even 4th and 1 is kind of an easy play. 

Can Caleb be more accurate? Sure. It might be the only thing he has left to improve in Ben's offense. But haters on a blustery day need to take a pill. 

Me? I'm already imagining some stud level DE's wanting to be a part of this team next year and if not, fine, we will draft a bunch of them. I just can't get over the fact this D only gave up 14 points with so many players missing on D. They didn't let Saquon beat them. They didn't let Hurts beat them. I'm not sure Bigsby even saw the field. 2 more turnovers. So much to love. 

Bears were doing whatever they wanted on the ground and couldn’t complete a toward pass in howling wind. With a one point lead at mid field on 2nd and 1 Caleb throws a pick. That was one of Ben’s worst play call this season because there’s very few to choose from. He’s been that good on a play to play basis that any imperfection catches me by surprise. 
 

 

Edited November 29, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[Geographyhater8888]

Biggest road win since the 7-1 Bears defeated the 6-2 Giants 38-20 week 10 2006?

 

[Geographyhater8888]

Outside of the obvious the usage and effectiveness of the 12 personnel deserves so much credit for their contributions in both run blocking and pass catching especially when n November. 401 receiving yards and 4 td receptions combined and 292 yards and 3 TD receptions from Loveland alone.

[Banedon]

I don't get the criticism of Sirianni's choice to go for 2.

1) He had to do it at some point.
2) By doing it earlier, you know what you need to do the rest of the way.  If you mess up, you know how many scores you need.  If you get the rest of the scores and miss the 2 at the very end, you're screwed. 

But everybody seems to be shitting on him for that decision like the problem was the choice and not the execution.

[BigbadB]

5 minutes ago, Banedon said:

I don't get the criticism of Sirianni's choice to go for 2.

1) He had to do it at some point.
2) By doing it earlier, you know what you need to do the rest of the way.  If you mess up, you know how many scores you need.  If you get the rest of the scores and miss the 2 at the very end, you're screwed. 

But everybody seems to be shitting on him for that decision like the problem was the choice and not the execution.

I have to disagree with you here. By kicking the extra point, you are down just one score. Defense is fired up to make a stop, momentum is still in your favor. Going for 2 and failing makes it a two score game. Defense is now mentally out of it. Not to mention, it has to be frustrating to watch what's left of your fanbase racing for the exits. 

I'd also add that Phily can probably count on getting into the endzone pretty easily with the tush push from the 2, so saving it for later would also potentially have a more tired Bear defense attempting to defend there. I thought it was a stupid decision to go for 2 there. 

[Brian707]

The boo birds and mass exodus from the stadium was awesome. 

I did not expect this type of victory.  These final 5 games and hopefully some bonus games will be a treat. This team reminds me a bit of the 2015 Cubs 

[raw]

On 11/24/2025 at 1:53 PM, raw said:

Like I said in the other thread, the Eagles haven't been a big "come out firing on all cylinders to avenge a loss" team. The team has some issues and some malcontented players, which won't be any better coming off a division loss and blown lead on a short week.

The Bears CAN win this game. I'm not going to say they will win this game, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me. I would put money on the Bears +7 if I was a betting man, as I think they keep it close at worst. 
 

 

21 hours ago, raw said:

If the Eagles really commit to the run, they are going to be tough to beat. Barkley and the QB run should do well today against the Bears D and the replacement LBs. If they pass, I think whoever is facing the Eagles backup RT can do some damage. Would love to see some interior pressure as well from DL or blitzing. I expect a lot of blitzing. Treat Hurts like you did Rattler. He has 1 INT this year, but is not the most accurate QB.

On O, I dont feel like a team has truly "stopped" the Bears. Bears have just killed their own momentum at times, and taken more potential points off the board. Eagles LBs are super aggressive. They want to play downhill fast. Misdirection and counters will work against them. In the pass game, they are working in a new S and another who's not 100%. They've had issues on in-breakers and vs playaction (aggressive LBs) which the Bears love. And I think this could be a big Loveland game. Eagles played GB and Detroit right after they lost Kraft and LaPorta, respectively.

Not one to toot my own horn, but BEEP BEEP MF'ers!  I'm still so amped from yesterday. 

[Banedon]

4 minutes ago, raw said:

Not one to toot my own horn, but BEEP BEEP MF'ers!  I'm still so amped from yesterday. 

Yeah I'm obsessed with consuming as much Bears content as I can find right now.  LFG!

[raw]

Just to add....

1. I would pass on 2nd and short every time. The issue with the 2nd and 1 was it was a screen pass. It ended up not being a bad look for a screen, but usually you have guys at the LB and maybe even S level looking for a run, so a screen keeps them somewhat close to the LOS unless they bail hard when they read pass. Plus, a screen gives you a chance to lose yards (so does a sack, I guess), but I go shot play, or at least 10-15 yards on a 2nd and 1 pass call. But who am I to question Ben? LOL

2. I think going for 2 is the call for the Eagles there. I get making it a 1 score game, but if you get the 2 there, you can go for the win if you get another shot. Plus I like going for 2 after a long drive and a tired defense in general. My bigger issue is the Bears NOT going for 2 when they scored up 10-9. 16-9 with the TD. The way I see it, if you kick it go up 8, the other team goes for 2. If you go for 2, you can go up 2 scores or even if you miss it, the other team never goes for 2 anyway, so either way, you're tied worst case scenario when/if the other team scores.

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Bears were doing whatever they wanted on the ground and couldn’t complete a toward pass in howling wind. With a one point lead at mid field on 2nd and 1 Caleb throws a pick. That was one of Ben’s worst play call this season because there’s very few to choose from. He’s been that good on a play to play basis that any imperfection catches me by surprise. 
 

 

It was not a bad call. Not even close to a bad call. It made perfect sense. Defense expecting a run because, as you said, they were running right through them. More often then not teams will try to go downfield in that exact situation. It is being called a terrible play because it didn’t work. I am sure that had Kmet not caught a TD pass on the throw from Caleb, people would have been calling that a terrible call too. I get your point of “just run”. It was working. And there is definitely an argument to be made there. But suggesting this was one of the worst calls this season is definitely a result of what happened on the play. Had the throw just been incomplete that play wouldn’t have even made the discussion. 

[Geographyhater8888]

1 minute ago, raw said:

Just to add....

1. I would pass on 2nd and short every time. The issue with the 2nd and 1 was it was a screen pass. It ended up not being a bad look for a screen, but usually you have guys at the LB and maybe even S level looking for a run, so a screen keeps them somewhat close to the LOS unless they bail hard when they read pass. Plus, a screen gives you a chance to lose yards (so does a sack, I guess), but I go shot play, or at least 10-15 yards on a 2nd and 1 pass call. But who am I to question Ben? LOL
 

I think it’s fair to say they called the wrong pass play. I’m still of the opinion that running was the best choice considering the gap in efficiency through the air and on the ground but it’s not an unforgivable offense. Ben is probably the most adaptable play caller I’ve ever seen, and one of the few offensive minds capable of out scheming Fangio.

 

I’m happy to eat crow on my linebacker take too. I think the tight ends also deserve a ton of credit since the Bengals game.

[Geographyhater8888]

2 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

It was not a bad call. Not even close to a bad call. It made perfect sense. Defense expecting a run because, as you said, they were running right through them. More often then not teams will try to go downfield in that exact situation. It is being called a terrible play because it didn’t work. I am sure that had Kmet not caught a TD pass on the throw from Caleb, people would have been calling that a terrible call too. I get your point of “just run”. It was working. And there is definitely an argument to be made there. But suggesting this was one of the worst calls this season is definitely a result of what happened on the play. Had the throw just been incomplete that play wouldn’t have even made the discussion. 

One of the worst play calls for Ben Johnson isn’t the same as a bad play call. As @rawexplained they called a screen pass where the everyone is playing near the LOS expecting a run. Perhaps that was the mistake, albeit the wind wasn’t pass friendly.

 

[Rcal10]

6 minutes ago, raw said:

Just to add....

1. I would pass on 2nd and short every time. The issue with the 2nd and 1 was it was a screen pass. It ended up not being a bad look for a screen, but usually you have guys at the LB and maybe even S level looking for a run, so a screen keeps them somewhat close to the LOS unless they bail hard when they read pass. Plus, a screen gives you a chance to lose yards (so does a sack, I guess), but I go shot play, or at least 10-15 yards on a 2nd and 1 pass call. But who am I to question Ben? LOL

2. I think going for 2 is the call for the Eagles there. I get making it a 1 score game, but if you get the 2 there, you can go for the win if you get another shot. Plus I like going for 2 after a long drive and a tired defense in general. My bigger issue is the Bears NOT going for 2 when they scored up 10-9. 16-9 with the TD. The way I see it, if you kick it go up 8, the other team goes for 2. If you go for 2, you can go up 2 scores or even if you miss it, the other team never goes for 2 anyway, so either way, you're tied worst case scenario when/if the other team scores.

Agree with you on the second and 1 call by the bears..

i also thought about the Bears going for 2 when they went up 16-9. I believe the Packers did that to the Bears last year. I get your logic and thought if it too. But I am on the fence on that one. It basically comes down to what the coach is more confident in. If he thinks he has a better chance of getting a 2 pt conversion then stopping the other teams 2 pt conversion, he should go for 2. The issue is, if he goes for 2 a d doesn’t get it, he gives the Eagles a chance to score and possibly go for 2 and win the game. Teams don’t do that often, but the Eagles might have. 

[Geographyhater8888]

Other than obvious that the offensive line has been sensational, I’m really loving their use of 12 personnel and the matchup advantage it creates. Keep Kmet. I wouldn’t be disappointed if they drafted another tight end on day 2, granted he’s the best player available.

Edited November 29, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[raw]

9 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Agree with you on the second and 1 call by the bears..

i also thought about the Bears going for 2 when they went up 16-9. I believe the Packers did that to the Bears last year. I get your logic and thought if it too. But I am on the fence on that one. It basically comes down to what the coach is more confident in. If he thinks he has a better chance of getting a 2 pt conversion then stopping the other teams 2 pt conversion, he should go for 2. The issue is, if he goes for 2 a d doesn’t get it, he gives the Eagles a chance to score and possibly go for 2 and win the game. Teams don’t do that often, but the Eagles might have. 

It was early enough in the game that I don't think they would've gone for 2. Also, the home team, that also has momentum given that they just scored, probably doesn't go for the win even if it was a late game situation. 

Also, I trust my top 3 playcaller in the league to get 3 yards when the run game was able to get almost 7 a pop. 

[raw]

6 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Other than obvious that the offensive line has been senatorial I’m really loving their use of 12 personnel and the matchup advantage it creates. Keep Kmet. I wouldn’t be disappointed if they drafted another tight end on day 2, granted he’s the best player available.

Fangio would not stop being Fangio. He played what he plays and didn't adjust. He's going to play his 6 guys in the box, 2 high safety look and dare you to run it. He's going to get his DEs wide and up the field, and Ben just ran underneath them all day or misdirectioned the LBs. Just proved to me how good Eddie Goldman and Hicks were upfront, and Roquan and Trevathan were much better LBs than the Eagles have. 

[Derwood]

Welcome to the positive point differential club!

Also, that Ravens loss is really horsefeathers annoying considering how bad they've been recently

[bukie]

8 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Welcome to the positive point differential club!

Also, that Ravens loss is really horsefeathers annoying considering how bad they've been recently

The Ravens had won 5 straight before Thursday.

[Old Style]

13 hours ago, bukie said:

This win also gives the Bears the best conference record in the NFC at 6-2. Eagles are now 7-3, and Rams are 4-2 (they've played 5 AFC games and 6 NFC games thus far).

They also now have the tiebreaker against the Eagles, should it come down to it.

Niners are 8-2. 

[Derwood]

21 minutes ago, bukie said:

The Ravens had won 5 straight before Thursday.