Week 2: Bears @ Lions Sunday at noon on FOX

[Wilson A2000]

 

[Wilson A2000]

 

[gflore34]

Things will probably get worse before they better for the Bears although, I can't imagine what'll be worse than today.  Is it Bears, I've confidence they'll find a way to go lower.  I still think they'll be improvements on the offensive side of the ball and I'm not ready to write off Loveland and Burden as no talent busts.  They were pretty horsefeathers good football players at the highest level.  They didn't instantly forget to play football the moment they became Bears.

[TarzanJoeWallis]

35 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

 

Loveland over Warren looking pretty awful early on. 

[Soul]

4 minutes ago, TarzanJoeWallis said:

Loveland over Warren looking pretty awful early on. 

I held my tongue on draft day but that was so bizarre.  Plus Loveland had a very serious shoulder injury.  It was a layup pick.  You take Warren.  A child could make that pick.

[Wilson A2000]

The Bears look like they have regressed. How is that possible?

[UMFan83]

5 minutes ago, Soul said:

I held my tongue on draft day but that was so bizarre.  Plus Loveland had a very serious shoulder injury.  It was a layup pick.  You take Warren.  A child could make that pick.

horsefeathers I wish I could contribute in good faith because I’m obviously biased but man I can’t wait for this to look silly 😂

[Soul]

Poles got an extension.  Through 2029. Lord have mercy.  They needed to align HC & GM at some point though.  So they are stuck with each other.  And we are stuck with them.  I hope BJ can lift this team out of the cellar but there are real headwinds here.

[minnesotacubsfan]

3 minutes ago, Soul said:

Poles got an extension.  Through 2029. Lord have mercy.  They needed to align HC & GM at some point though.  So they are stuck with each other.  And we are stuck with them.  I hope BJ can lift this team out of the cellar but there are real headwinds here.

honestly, this makes me feel bad for Ben Johnson

[gflore34]

3 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

horsefeathers I wish I could contribute in good faith because I’m obviously biased but man I can’t wait for this to look silly 😂

Yeah, let's just write off Loveland because rookies starting slowly NEVER happens to anyone but Bears' rookies.

[Soul]

3 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

horsefeathers I wish I could contribute in good faith because I’m obviously biased but man I can’t wait for this to look silly 😂

I don’t think it will unless Warren tanks out though.  As a pick I can’t see a world where you take the injured guy who is ranked lower by just about everyone over the higher-ranked healthy guy.

But no one will really care if Loveland actually is good.

[Outshined_One]

This team constantly finds ways of screwing up their second round picks, be it through trades or otherwise.

[Derwood]

Warren has 11 catches for over 150 yds in 2 games, just saying

[I owned a Suzuki]

Unpopular opinion.....drafting is overrated.....player development is underrated.

[NorthsideAvenger]

12 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Warren has 11 catches for over 150 yds in 2 games, just saying

He would not have done that with the Bears.

 

 

[Soul]

18 minutes ago, I owned a Suzuki said:

Unpopular opinion.....drafting is overrated.....player development is underrated.

Mostly the 2nd part for me.  There’s still a lot of untapped potential with players coming out of college.  The better teams make the most of what they get.

[UMFan83]

42 minutes ago, Soul said:

I don’t think it will unless Warren tanks out though.  As a pick I can’t see a world where you take the injured guy who is ranked lower by just about everyone over the higher-ranked healthy guy.

But no one will really care if Loveland actually is good.

Thats simply not true. A number of people had Loveland rated higher. Id say 60-40 in favor of Warren but Loveland had better numbers in college in things like average yards per route run, etc 

[Tryptamine]

I'll be interested to see the snap count for week 2 for Loveland and Burden. It felt like even less than week 1 where Loveland had a 56.7% and Burden a 26.9%

[jersey cubs fan]

52 minutes ago, I owned a Suzuki said:

Unpopular opinion.....drafting is overrated.....player development is underrated.

I would say this is probably correct on the margins, but you may be underrating the drafting side. 

[gflore34]

26 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Thats simply not true. A number of people had Loveland rated higher. Id say 60-40 in favor of Warren but Loveland had better numbers in college in things like average yards per route run, etc 

Warren had one big year, a great year, but, Loveland dwarfed Warren in production in all other years.  Let's just ignore that because he's started slowly and assume Loveland' a bust.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

I’m sorry, I just can’t get over the Poles extension.  His draft record is absolutely deplorable, this is *still* a bottom 5 roster in the league, and we have multiple healthy scratches at positions of need.

[minnesotacubsfan]

32 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Thats simply not true. A number of people had Loveland rated higher. Id say 60-40 in favor of Warren but Loveland had better numbers in college in things like average yards per route run, etc 

its was ONLY 60-40 guys. Easy to misread

 

 

 

 

[gflore34]

7 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

its was ONLY 60-40 guys. Easy to misread

 

 

 

 

Hey, I'm frustrated to, thus far, it's been a total horsefeathers show.  I'm still not ready to write off Loveland, you can, but, I think he's a tad better than you think.  And UMFan is correct Loveland was better overall to Warren in college, look at the numbers.

Edited September 15, 2025 by gflore34

[Soul]

Man I hope to hell I’m wrong about Loveland.  I really do.

[Wilson A2000]

9 minutes ago, Have a seat, Neifi said:

I’m sorry, I just can’t get over the Poles extension.  His draft record is absolutely deplorable, this is *still* a bottom 5 roster in the league, and we have multiple healthy scratches at positions of need.

If the Bears continue to play like this, we will find out just how badly they want to win like they say they do. Warren and Poles would cost, what $50-100 million to be let go? But if they win 3-4 games, this has to be done.