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4 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

I have never liked Jed

Not sure why people were good with the extension. What has the team done to earn it? 

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1 minute ago, cubfansince77 said:

Absolutely...but we shall see. All part of the game. I know people are pissed at Jed and I'm not HAPPY with him but at then end of the day it was too much of a sellers market. Juice wasn't worth the squeeze for controllable, younger TOR guys like Gore. Hell, the Nat's don't even have a bonafide front office right now. Who KNOWS how much they wanted, but my guess is...a helluva lot. 

There were rental arms out there to be had and with the question marks the Cubs have with durability, youth, and innings limits, he had to do something more than Soroka.

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I live in Indy and Jed reminds me so much of Colts GM Chris Ballard. Always preaching discipline In making deals. Set a price and don’t go over in free agency. Set a price for trades and don’t go over that. Discipline, discipline, discipline. Colts are perennially a .500 team now. Not being willing to lose a deal is a clear path to mediocrity. 

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So my thoughts, just to get them on paper (or internet paper) on the deadline:

In a vacuum, I really have no issues with any trade the Cubs made. You can quibble on a prospect here or there, but the highest-ranked prospect traded profiles like a backup, and your best upside is a kid who isn't even-18, so he'll almost assuredly fizzle out. The Cubs got a perfect bench bat in Castro, an undervalued SP in Soroka, and two arms to help the bullpen. The Cubs are unquestionably better than when we last saw them.

But...I think this is a failure of a deadline from Jed Hoyer. His best asset as a leader is that he holds strong to his valuations of players. I love that about him. It's why I liked every trade above; the Cubs didn't get fleeced once - they really don't get fleeced. Maybe you don't love a trade but they never get fleeced. But it's that same pigheaded valuation that means you never get irrational for needs. 

Jed Hoyer is a fine VP of Baseball Ops. He put together this roster, and the Cubs look like a team who can make the playoffs. They're better than yesterday. But sometimes you need to pay 15% more than you should just to have it and Jed's undying loyalty to the value means that while he won't get fleeced, he won't go big. 

One of our other writers, put it best in our slack today. "Jed always picks up his pizza, he never orders delivery" and I think that's the best analogy I've ever heard for Hoyer. He will never pay the delivery fee, he'll never pay for a tip if he can just drive seven minutes down the road and get it from Dominoes. I don't think he needs to Door Dash McDonalds every night like AJ Preller probably would, but sometime, he needs to treat himself.

angry parks and recreation GIF

 

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5 minutes ago, JHBulls said:

Can’t wait for Jed to be on the next Cubs broadcast and see Boog throw softball questions at him. 

Boog: “So the team is first in the division, it’s a good plan not to mess with the roster too much?”

Jed: “Yes.”

Boog: “Javier Assad and Jameson Taillon are returning soon, it’s a good plan not to trade good prospects for a starter?”

Jed: “Yes.”

Boog: “Thank you for your time, Jed!”

Boog: And it looks like Craig is coming out to get Rea after allowing the first 3 men to reach. Thank you for your time Jed! Top 4, 8-3 Reds, we’ll be back. 

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2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

After inevitable failure at the end of this season, I fully expect Jed to not have the balls to show up to the Cub Convention. 

He’ll go. They’ll make sure the apologists get the first few rows.

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This is pretty gross for sure, and unacceptable. 

But the worst for me would have been if Gore, Ryan, Cabrera, et. al were traded somewhere else. It's pretty clear that Jed didn't want to trade his assets for a rental, which I can respect in and of itself. He wanted a controllable asset.

But not addressing the rotation more than he did is simply unacceptable. Suarez would have been a luxury, but a solid rotation piece was a necessity.

 

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6 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Me neither.

Rode the coat tails.  Now his angel is gone and he’s exposed.

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3 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Jed half asses FA, goes all in on offseason trades with Tucker, then half asses the TDL. I just don't get it. 

Mr half measure

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1 minute ago, Jason Ross said:

So my thoughts, just to get them on paper (or internet paper) on the deadline:

In a vacuum, I really have no issues with any trade the Cubs made. You can quibble on a prospect here or there, but the highest-ranked prospect traded profiles like a backup, and your best upside is a kid who isn't even-18, so he'll almost assuredly fizzle out. The Cubs got a perfect bench bat in Castro, an undervalued SP in Soroka, and two arms to help the bullpen. The Cubs are unquestionably better than when we last saw them.

But...I think this is a failure of a deadline from Jed Hoyer. His best asset as a leader is that he holds strong to his valuations of players. I love that about him. It's why I liked every trade above; the Cubs didn't get fleeced once - they really don't get fleeced. Maybe you don't love a trade but they never get fleeced. But it's that same pigheaded valuation that means you never get irrational for needs. 

Jed Hoyer is a fine VP of Baseball Ops. He put together this roster, and the Cubs look like a team who can make the playoffs. They're better than yesterday. But sometimes you need to pay 15% more than you should just to have it and Jed's undying loyalty to the value means that while he won't get fleeced, he won't go big. 

One of our other writers, put it best in our slack today. "Jed always picks up his pizza, he never orders delivery" and I think that's the best analogy I've ever heard for Hoyer. He will never pay the delivery fee, he'll never pay for a tip if he can just drive seven minutes down the road and get it from Dominoes. I don't think he needs to Door Dash McDonalds every night like AJ Preller probably would, but sometime, he needs to treat himself.

angry parks and recreation GIF

 

No problem with the guys he got cause they help, just the ONE he didn't get that they truly needed, a reliable SP to go between Imanaga and Boyd.

Somebody needs to help take that stress off of them to constantly have to be the guy to stop any sort of bleeding. 

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