Non-Cubs Trades

[squally1313]

7 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

I think Luzardo and Bregman both could have been shots to significantly improve the Cubs and Jed didn't even come close.  The prospect capital the Phillies ended up paying wasn't exactly a haul. The Cubs could have offered what it would took to sign Bregman but Jed struck out again.

Are we allowed to reference Tucker in this? Luzurdo was very publicly a medicals concern. Bregman would have been nice. Bregman at a multi year deal at that dollar amount almost assuredly takes us out of signing Tucker given the amount of money we would have committed for 2026 (a Ricketts problem, not a Jed problem). 
 

Candelario, Paredes, Tucker. Basing your argument on two players they (and 28 other teams) didn’t get seems a little unfair/pessimistic, and also somewhat irrelevant given those were signings and not trades. 

[PeanutPunch33]

2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

That package is like one Rojas away from a possible Ryan or Gore package which would be quite a bit better ROI in my opinion.

I would agree with that.  It seems like the Cubs are saving their big pieces for a premier SP and my expectations are sky high now.  I wouldn't be surprised if they get both Ryan and a guy like Kelly by tomorrow.  Although, I can see Suarez going to Milwaukee.

[gflore34]

39 minutes ago, KCCub said:

 

Are you two making this trade?

 

I'd do as well. Duran could have really help towards an almost shut down bullpen, get to 7th with a lead. Then Keller, Palencia, Duran gives you a real good chance.

[Jason Ross]

18 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

But aside from starting pitching, they do need a bench hitter and a reliever.  I thought maybe they'd lock in one of those minor type of moves by today.  I guess there is still time.  

From what it sounds like, the Cubs goal is to acquire 1 controllable pitcher, with their preference being a SP. They will pivot to a controllable RP if they cannot acquire that. They will then acquire a more mid-tier rental of the other pitching type. So if they grab a controllable SP, they'd go rental RP.

As of right now, the reliever market is churning a bit, but as long as the Cubs are trying for a controlled SP first, they can't really pivot yet to a reliever. If they did, it would likely change how they had to attack SP, which would be backwards for their wants.

3b is a bit different, but the hitter market the Cubs are likely in (Suarez, Castro) isn't really on the move right now. 

It's likely that the Cubs will wait this out until they either have to move themselves or a team they're working with accepts they have to budge some.

For teams trying to trade controllable SPs, the reality is that the Cubs are one of the very few games in town who both have need and means, and the Cubs have to know this. While teams with controllable arms don't have to move them, if they wish to cash in now, there aren't many options, either. It's a game of chicken.

[ILMindState]

In a surprise move the Cubs have traded Vidal Brujan, Jordan Wicks, and James Triantos for Shohei Ohtani......

In all seriousness, this might affect the SP market.

 

 

[Andy]

If he's actually hurt I don't see how LA can let him pitch again.

[Andy]

Looks like whatever is up won't stop him from hitting at least

 

 

[PeanutPunch33]

27 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

From what it sounds like, the Cubs goal is to acquire 1 controllable pitcher, with their preference being a SP. They will pivot to a controllable RP if they cannot acquire that. They will then acquire a more mid-tier rental of the other pitching type. So if they grab a controllable SP, they'd go rental RP.

As of right now, the reliever market is churning a bit, but as long as the Cubs are trying for a controlled SP first, they can't really pivot yet to a reliever. If they did, it would likely change how they had to attack SP, which would be backwards for their wants.

3b is a bit different, but the hitter market the Cubs are likely in (Suarez, Castro) isn't really on the move right now. 

It's likely that the Cubs will wait this out until they either have to move themselves or a team they're working with accepts they have to budge some.

For teams trying to trade controllable SPs, the reality is that the Cubs are one of the very few games in town who both have need and means, and the Cubs have to know this. While teams with controllable arms don't have to move them, if they wish to cash in now, there aren't many options, either. It's a game of chicken.

That makes sense.  As long as they get "their guy", I can continue being patient.  I personally hope it's Alcantara + Kelly, or swing for the fences in Ryan.  

[Jason Ross]

8 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

That makes sense.  As long as they get "their guy", I can continue being patient.  I personally hope it's Alcantara + Kelly, or swing for the fences in Ryan.  

I think Edward Cabrera is the guy they want most.

[KCCub]

Excited to see what Preller ends up with 

[Bertz]

4 minutes ago, KCCub said:

Excited to see what Preller ends up with 

I wonder if the Cubs end up being involved here as the second leg of a Preller special.  Like this

- Padres trade for Mason Miller

- Cubs trade for Robert Suarez (maybe including McGuire in a deal since the Padres are down so bad for catching help?)

- Padres use that freed up $$$ for a bat, Marcell Ozuna maybe?

[KCCub]

Reds with another move -

 

[Derwood]

Site is starting to bog down. Tomorrow is going to be crash city

[Tryptamine]

Ramon Urias to Houston and Steven Matz to Boston

[JD94]

Steven Matz to the Red Sox

[Jason Ross]

Twine Palmer goes to Baltimore for Urias

Blaze Jordan to St. Louis for Matz.

If you have a great baseball name, watch out! 

[Tryptamine]

1 minute ago, Jason Ross said:

Twine Palmer goes to Baltimore for Urias

Blaze Jordan to St. Louis for Matz.

If you have a great baseball name, watch out! 

Isn't that the kid who hit like a 500 foot hr in a showcase when he was like 14?

[JD94]

Seattle got Suraez. Ready to see the return 

[Post Count Padder]

Just now, Tryptamine said:

Isn't that the kid who hit like a 500 foot hr in a showcase when he was like 14?

Yes it is. And power is basically all he has. 

[Dfan25]

Damn it , I really wanted Suarez .  

[Jason Ross]

5 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Isn't that the kid who hit like a 500 foot hr in a showcase when he was like 14?

Yes! Same kid. 

[Hortonhearsawho]

Jed went to sleep too early and missed out on Suarez. 

[itisallpartoftheplan]

With Suarez off the board who are we looking at? Willi Castro?

[NorthsideAvenger]

Just now, Hortonhearsawho said:

Jed went to sleep too early and missed out on Suarez. 

Not overpaying on a rental is a good thing.

[PeanutPunch33]

*sigh* can't wait to watch this team struggle vs Ranger Suarez and Cristopher Sanchez in the playoffs because they put all their faith into a rookie.  I wonder if Michael Busch will even start a single one of those games