Pirates (Skenes) vs Cubs (Horton): 6/13/25, 1:20pm

[PeanutPunch33]

That really sucks 

[UMFan83]

When O'neill fielded it cleanly off the wall I thought "well there's no way they're gonna send Happ here"

Damn...at least at 95 pitches he might not be back out there.

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 minute ago, CubinNY said:

Two outs and all but that was a bad send

Maybe some day they will make the bad throw we keep hoping for 

[gflore34]

5 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

I'd take Skenes.  Given his age, he's not even close to his peak performance and that's a frightening thought.  Although Skubal is unreal too 

The left-handedness is primary factor for me, if Skenes was a lefty I'd take him.

[Rcal10]

1 minute ago, CubinNY said:

Two outs and all but that was a bad send

Nope. Right call. Pirates made the play. Wet ball hard to make 2 good throws. They did it. 

[Chicago Al]

Kiner-Falefa has no arm.

[PeanutPunch33]

1 minute ago, gflore34 said:

The left-handedness is primary factor for me, if Skenes was a lefty I'd take him.

Yeah, a lefty winning potential back-to-back cy youngs is pretty wild.  Although Kris Bubic might give him a run for his money this year.  

[CubinNY]

1 minute ago, Rcal10 said:

Nope. Right call. Pirates made the play. Wet ball hard to make 2 good throws. They did it. 

lol

[chibears55]

It an obvious send but damn he wasn't close, only hope was for bit of a bad throw from the cutoff, and he made a great pickup on that short hop.

Horton just gotta get through this inning and hopefully the hitters will hit their pen.

[UMFan83]

Just now, Rcal10 said:

Nope. Right call. Pirates made the play. Wet ball hard to make 2 good throws. They did it. 

He was out by like 4 steps, not sure if they needed to both be good throws.  Catcher could have caught it to his right and turned and still made the out imo

[PeanutPunch33]

1 minute ago, Rcal10 said:

Nope. Right call. Pirates made the play. Wet ball hard to make 2 good throws. They did it. 

Agreed.  Got to take a chance with 2 outs 

[CubinNY]

Just now, CubinNY said:

lol

It’s not the right call when he’s about by 45 feet. 

[PeanutPunch33]

If I had to pick Ian Happ's speed for MLB The Show 25 I'd give him 20/100.  He's a solid player that does a lot of things well but...athleticism is not it lol 

[We Got The Whole 9]

Damn, a good throw would have had him

[PeanutPunch33]

wtf keep him in 

[Tryptamine]

Not sure I agree with pulling him already

[Rex Buckingham]

I hate it, let the kid keep pitching and trust your offense to do something against their garbage pen

[gflore34]

Skenes may be close to done, wouldn't think the Pirates are going to let him throw 120+ pitches.

Edited June 13, 2025 by gflore34

[JHBulls]

Now this is over managing for the sake of it. Modern baseball is so stupid sometimes. Cade was at 76 pitches.

 

 

[Rcal10]

5 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

It’s not the right call when he’s about by 45 feet. 

Exaggerate much? It is easy to criticize the send after the guy is out. But how about if he held and the SS bobbled the ball thrown in or made a wide throw home where Happ would have scored. Then people would have been complaining that he Cubs should have sent him. Suzuki has looked bad against Skenes today. What was the chance he gets a hit? 25%. So if the send results in better than 25% chance of acoring(and I think it did) you have to send him. 

[PeanutPunch33]

all's well that ends well 

[chibears55]

Couldn't ask for anything better out of Horton,  matched Skenes zeros and now it bullpen versus bullpen for 3 innings

[Tryptamine]

Just now, PeanutPunch33 said:

all's well that ends well 

I feel like you might have been able to get another full inning out of Horton. An inning you could have saved the bp arms on.

[UMFan83]

2 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Skenes may be close to done, wouldn't think the Pirates are going to let him throw 120+ pitches.

Most he's thrown is 108 this year, but I'm not sure they bring him out with 95 pitches unless they like the matchup against Seiya and bring in a lefty to face PCA

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Happ was touching 3rd before the hop IKF had to field had even hit the ground

Forcing them to pick, throw, pick, and tag in these conditions with 2 outs isn't a bad call for me.