2025 Bears Offseason Thread

[UMFan83]

Just debating if Chubb is the right option or someone like Dobbins or even a trade (Breece Hall has rumored to be on the block) is the better fit.  Chubb is the highest risk/reward I suppose if he does get back to form 18 months post-ACL we'll get his production at a huge discount.  Worst case scenario he sucks and we're still at where we are today with Swift and Roshon.

[Tryptamine]

I'm really baffled at people acting like Loveland was a big reach. He wasn't even the consensus best TE prospect and, I believe it was ESPN, had him ranked 7th overall. 

[Brian707]

18 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I'm really baffled at people acting like Loveland was a big reach. He wasn't even the consensus best TE prospect and, I believe it was ESPN, had him ranked 7th overall. 

I think people were pissed they didn't go OL or DL. But most of the guys were gone by 10. Trading down probably wasn't an option as nobody probably wanted to trade up to 10. I am fine with the pick

[Tryptamine]

9 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

I think people were pissed they didn't go OL or DL. But most of the guys were gone by 10. Trading down probably wasn't an option as nobody probably wanted to trade up to 10. I am fine with the pick

It was a perfectly reasonable pick. Jeanty was off the board, the 3 best OL were off the board and the drop off from Carter to the next Edge rusher was enormous. The only real complaint I could see is that they skipped the safer TE with a more diverse skill set and chased the enormous offensive upside of Loveland. I just hope he'll be at least an adequate blocker. 

[Rcal10]

2 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

I imagine Chubb would be like 1/6-8 with incentives 

I think he gets half that much. Don’t want him at $6M to $8M.

[jumbo]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

It was a perfectly reasonable pick. Jeanty was off the board, the 3 best OL were off the board and the drop off from Carter to the next Edge rusher was enormous. The only real complaint I could see is that they skipped the safer TE with a more diverse skill set and chased the enormous offensive upside of Loveland. I just hope he'll be at least an adequate blocker. 

Loveland won't be blocking many DE's. Get him out in run blocking and he'll do fine. He put some big hits on the college guys and appears to take it seriously. 

Split him out wide, put trips on the other side and let the matchup chess begin. 

A lot of receiving talent, some protection against injury, good stuff. 

[BigbadB]

18 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

I think he gets half that much. Don’t want him at $6M to $8M.

Yeah, he's not getting 6-8. That's a little bit less than Montgomery got, and he wasn't nearly as old or had two extensive knee surgeries. Not to mention it's the tail end of offseason and he's still looking for a team, while most teams are basically tapped out on their cap space. Either he accepts an offer to play for someone now at a discount price or he waits for a team to have a significant injury in preseason. The Bears ought to be a pretty nice fit for him to show he still has something left.

[Soul]

Matt Miller says the Burden pick was the #1 pick of the entire draft.

And Loveland was his #7 pick overall.

Says Burden was the best WR in the draft (he counted Hunter as a two-way player), and he had Loveland over Warren as #1 TE.

[jersey cubs fan]

I really like the Burden pick, because they obviously chose BPA over need. You could argue they didn’t need a WR but they’re now lined up really nicely with skill position talent, and are free to let one or more guy go in a couple years instead of being forced to give huge extensions. 

[gflore34]

26 minutes ago, Soul said:

Matt Miller says the Burden pick was the #1 pick of the entire draft.

And Loveland was his #7 pick overall.

Says Burden was the best WR in the draft (he counted Hunter as a two-way player), and he had Loveland over Warren as #1 TE.

I couldn't find any 40 times, etc. however, it's my understanding that Loveland is more of field stretcher, will be a difficult cover for a LB, whereas, Warren is closer to what the Bears have in Kmet.  Is this correct?

[Soul]

35 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

I couldn't find any 40 times, etc. however, it's my understanding that Loveland is more of field stretcher, will be a difficult cover for a LB, whereas, Warren is closer to what the Bears have in Kmet.  Is this correct?

I believe so yes. Although I also think Warren is more highly regarded than Kmet was.

[UMFan83]

28 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

I couldn't find any 40 times, etc. however, it's my understanding that Loveland is more of field stretcher, will be a difficult cover for a LB, whereas, Warren is closer to what the Bears have in Kmet.  Is this correct?

Loveland fits more of the WR in a TE body mold and yeah good route runner, definitely difficult cover for a LB but he was also giving DBs challenges at Michigan.

[Hot Sauce]

On 4/29/2025 at 8:57 AM, UMFan83 said:

Just debating if Chubb is the right option or someone like Dobbins or even a trade (Breece Hall has rumored to be on the block) is the better fit.  Chubb is the highest risk/reward I suppose if he does get back to form 18 months post-ACL we'll get his production at a huge discount.  Worst case scenario he sucks and we're still at where we are today with Swift and Roshon.

Hall was a victim of a crappy Jets offense and still produced. I would love to see him in a better situation. One of the rare 3-down studs in the league. 

[Rcal10]

18 hours ago, Hot Sauce said:

Hall was a victim of a crappy Jets offense and still produced. I would love to see him in a better situation. One of the rare 3-down studs in the league. 

At what cost? Is he a free agent or do they have to trade for him? How does he fit in the Bears payroll? He would be a good get, but I am not sure he is worth the cost in salary and draft capital if they have to trade for him. 

[jersey cubs fan]

3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

At what cost? Is he a free agent or do they have to trade for him? How does he fit in the Bears payroll? He would be a good get, but I am not sure he is worth the cost in salary and draft capital if they have to trade for him. 

He’s in his final year of contract. It would have to be a relatively significant offer to make that trade. Poles is all too happy to give away future picks. I think it would be a mistake 

[minnesotacubsfan]

21 hours ago, Soul said:

Matt Miller says the Burden pick was the #1 pick of the entire draft.

And Loveland was his #7 pick overall.

Says Burden was the best WR in the draft (he counted Hunter as a two-way player), and he had Loveland over Warren as #1 TE.

why did Burden slip to the 2nd round? I havent paid much attention to the WR's in this years draft, so hes an unknown to me

 

 

[Rcal10]

The Athletic has the Bears ranked 19 in the draft class. That is probably fair. My issue is after the first 2 picks I think the Bears were probably top 3. Which means they failed badly after the top 2. They are 19th due to strength of the first 2 picks. I think the corner was best value after the first 2 picks, both second round picks were meh, the LB and MSU OL picks were bad (probably not drafted if not for the Bears)and I guess the RB was good value. But he isn’t a guy to split time with Swift. If he was they wouldn’t be talking about Chubb and Hall. 

[mul21]

14 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

why did Burden slip to the 2nd round? I havent paid much attention to the WR's in this years draft, so hes an unknown to me

 

 

Some questions about his effort on routes in general and especially on plays when he wasn't the primary target.  

[Tryptamine]

38 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

The Athletic has the Bears ranked 19 in the draft class. That is probably fair. My issue is after the first 2 picks I think the Bears were probably top 3. Which means they failed badly after the top 2. They are 19th due to strength of the first 2 picks. I think the corner was best value after the first 2 picks, both second round picks were meh, the LB and MSU OL picks were bad (probably not drafted if not for the Bears)and I guess the RB was good value. But he isn’t a guy to split time with Swift. If he was they wouldn’t be talking about Chubb and Hall. 

This is more or less where I'm at. I think Loveland was a completely reasonable pick just like Warren or Jalen Walker would have been. At #39, though it wasn't a position of need, I think Burden was clearly their BPA and I'll never be angry for taking BPA, especially with Henderson gone. Trading #41 is where things started to go downhill.

Their first trade was #41, #72 and #240 for #56, #62 and #109

This inherently was not an awful deal.

At #56 Trapilo was kind of a meh pick. I don't hate it, but it was extremely bland he's more or less injury insurance.

I legitimately liked Turner quite a bit at #62

I'm just about positive they thought they could land Skattebo at #109 and when he wasn't they traded back landing picks #132 and #169. Unfortunately for the Bears, there was then a run at RB that saw 4 more RB go off the board before the Bears would pick again at #132.  Instead the Bears make the worst and most puzzling pick of their draft picking Hyppolite who, unless the Bears know something the rest of the league doesn't, was a massive reach. 

At #169 they take Frazier who a legitimately good value pick at the time with some upside. 

So it basically becomes do you like Trapilo, Turner, Hyppolite and Frazier more than you would have liked adding a duo at #41 and #72 like one of Ezeiraku/Tuimoloau/Ersery and one of Landon Jackson/Unmanmielen/Kaleb Johnson. It's even possible Turner was still there at #72 if the Bear were infatuated with him. Personally I'd have much rather had the latter of the two and that's ignoring that with #240 they still probably could have gotten Monongai  who they eventually took at #232.

They then traded down yet again giving up #148 for #195 and a 2024 4th with the Rams so we can probably safely assume it's going to be in the back half of the 4th roughly #130. It wasn't a homerun or anything but there wasn't anyone I was dying for them to have between #148 and #169 and they added a pick next year that's high enough that you might get a starter out of it

At #195 they took Luke Newman who is most likely going to be your generic back up interior lineman. 

I feel like they only got 2 sure fire guys who are going to see lots of action and a bunch of other guys who are either rotational pieces or depth. I wouldn't not at all be surprised if Turner ends up being the 3rd guy who sees a lot of action.

[Rcal10]

3 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

This is more or less where I'm at. I think Loveland was a completely reasonable pick just like Warren or Jalen Walker would have been. At #39, though it wasn't a position of need, I think Burden was clearly their BPA and I'll never be angry for taking BPA, especially with Henderson gone. Trading #41 is where things started to go downhill.

Their first trade was #41, #72 and #240 for #56, #62 and #109

This inherently was not an awful deal.

At #56 Trapilo was kind of a meh pick. I don't hate it, but it was extremely bland he's more or less injury insurance.

I legitimately liked Turner quite a bit at #62

I'm just about positive they thought they could land Skattebo at #109 and when he wasn't they traded back landing picks #132 and #169. Unfortunately for the Bears, there was then a run at RB that saw 4 more RB go off the board before the Bears would pick again at #132.  Instead the Bears make the worst and most puzzling pick of their draft picking Hyppolite who, unless the Bears know something the rest of the league doesn't, was a massive reach. 

At #169 they take Frazier who a legitimately good value pick at the time with some upside. 

So it basically becomes do you like Trapilo, Turner, Hyppolite and Frazier more than you would have liked adding a duo at #41 and #72 like one of Ezeiraku/Tuimoloau/Ersery and one of Landon Jackson/Unmanmielen/Kaleb Johnson. It's even possible Turner was still there at #72 if the Bear were infatuated with him. Personally I'd have much rather had the latter of the two and that's ignoring that with #240 they still probably could have gotten Monongai  who they eventually took at #232.

They then traded down yet again giving up #148 for #195 and a 2024 4th with the Rams so we can probably safely assume it's going to be in the back half of the 4th roughly #130. It wasn't a homerun or anything but there wasn't anyone I was dying for them to have between #148 and #169 and they added a pick next year that's high enough that you might get a starter out of it

At #195 they took Luke Newman who is most likely going to be your generic back up interior lineman. 

I feel like they only got 2 sure fire guys who are going to see lots of action and a bunch of other guys who are either rotational pieces or depth. I wouldn't not at all be surprised if Turner ends up being the 3rd guy who sees a lot of action.

It’s like I write this myself. Nicely done.

[Old Style]

I’m biased but I think Turner will be a force on the DL. 

[Tryptamine]

21 minutes ago, Old Style said:

I’m biased but I think Turner will be a force on the DL. 

I think he can be very good too, I'm just not sure it's going to be in 2025.

[Old Style]

12 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

I think he can be very good too, I'm just not sure it's going to be in 2025.

Oh yeah. I don’t expect him to step in and play at a high level from day 1 by any means. 

[jersey cubs fan]

If there’s a position where you can step in and contribute it’s on d line, where there’s a rotation inherent in the lineup and you don’t have to play every down. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

This is why I wouldn't spend months obsessing over mock drafts . At the end of the day you have zero control over what happens, the insiders really don't always know what the FO is thinking, and now you're all dejected because the draft didn't go how you hoped it would. 

 

Sometimes coaches want lumps of clay that have freakish inherent traits and we just have to trust that those coaches mold them into real assets. 

 

This also happens frequently when new regimes take over and sometimes they fall completely flat on their face. This one seems pretty questionable but we won't really know for a couple years how impactful the class is. We also have to consider the guys taken last year, like Booker, who could take a step forward in their 2nd year(s). 

Edited May 2, 2025 by We Got The Whole 9