Ohtani to Dodgers for an ungodly amount of money

[UMFan83]

15 minutes ago, Dfan25 said:

I didn’t know that the doctor who did the surgery on Ohtani is part of the Dodgers medical staff . No bueno 

How much does the doctor that did your TJS factor into where you choose to spend the next 10 years of your life?

[Tryptamine]

7 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

How much does the doctor that did your TJS factor into where you choose to spend the next 10 years of your life?

If anything it's reassuring that the team with the most access to his post TJS surgery results are still in on him.

[Dfan25]

9 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

How much does the doctor that did your TJS factor into where you choose to spend the next 10 years of your life?

I would say it factors a lot when you are trying to recover from surgery and be a dominant pitcher again .

[Rcal10]

7 minutes ago, Dfan25 said:

I would say it factors a lot when you are trying to recover from surgery and be a dominant pitcher again .

And yet he hasn’t announced he is going to play for the Dodgers yet. To me the fact that this is taking some time is encouraging. If the Dodgers were the hands down obvious choice, I think he would have made that announcement by now. 

[ILMindState]

2 hours ago, Stratos said:

We have to assume the Cubs have talked to most or all of the agents of players they're most interested in for Plan B, or to continue Plan A.

I do remember this happening in a lot of offseasons, with top guys holding things up.  Teams got their offseasons done very quickly in the lockout year, this isn't an issue, there's a ton of time left.

The top guys always holds all the cards because it’s every others agents best interest for their client. Yamamoto’s agent wants the Cubs and Giants to be involved if he signs with the Dodgers. Boras wants the Cubs and Giants in on Berlinger if they miss out. There’s potentially 4-5 teams that were willing to spend 500+ million dollars on one player and agents know this. 

[CubinNY]

14 hours ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I don't think he's reporting anything, just that there were reports he was in SF, but this appears to be wrong.

 

 

I love SF. I love Toronto. I love Chicago. LA is a different story, but it's great too. They are such different places with different feels, I'm so jealous. I wonder if it matters to players much. The city, I mean. I could see not wanting to play in NY, but I love the city. It's just not someplace where I would not want to be a professional athlete. 

I would think the micro-environment means more to the players, like the organization and relationship with the other players and stuff.

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The Athletic article said Ohtani's agent called the Angel's former GM to tell him in 2017 and before the GM could tell the rest of the front office they already knew. So, no he didn't tell the team first.  

Edited December 4, 2023 by CubinNY

[LBiittner]

I've got this weird feeling Braves will appear as the mystery team that swoops in and signs ohtani. 

[Jason Ross]

2 minutes ago, LBiittner said:

I've got this weird feeling Braves will appear as the mystery team that swoops in and signs ohtani. 

I'd be surprised. They haven't been connected to him. They just added $20m in immediate salary on the Kelenic trade. I think they're more likely to make a trade for a SP like Cease.

[17 Seconds]

this would be terrible

 

[Brian707]

Probably nothing, but Draftkings took down their odds of Ohtani's next team.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Signing Ohtani requires the Braves to either dramatically cut payroll elsewhere, or to go to a payroll level previously only reached by last year's Mets.  They have a lot of guarantees in future seasons already too, so while you can maybe squint and see it as a temporary jump(e.g. Morton + Ozuna is an Ohtani shaped role and a big chunk of an Ohtani AAV), it would either require sustained payroll levels we have only seen by the Cohen Mets(who immediately backtracked from them) and the Yankees, or pretty significant handcuffs over the next several seasons.

[Jason Ross]

16 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I'd be surprised. They haven't been connected to him. They just added $20m in immediate salary on the Kelenic trade. I think they're more likely to make a trade for a SP like Cease.

Of course the next post is a link between the Braves and Shohei. Good job me, I'm dumb.

But I still think it'd be a huge jump for them and I can' see them doing it.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Leverage, perhaps?

[Jason Ross]

2 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Leverage, perhaps?

I would guess at this stage he needs no leverage. Already being reported he'll make well over $500m and Sharma posted yesterday he doesn't necessarily believe the Cubs will be outbid (including by the Dodgers). I'd bet the Braves are in on one of those super-opt-out-heavy kind of deals. Get your WS and then get paid in a year or two things.

[ILMindState]

Yeah I don't think the biggest FA in baseball history needs any leverage

[ILMindState]

Maybe ATL just yeeted themselves out of the race for leaking their involvement.  Thanks Morosi!

[NorthsideAvenger]

1 minute ago, ILMindState said:

Yeah I don't think the biggest FA in baseball history needs any leverage

We don't know, one way or another. 

[UMFan83]

I quit baseball if Ohtani goes to the Braves.

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

I quit baseball if Ohtani goes to the Braves.

Pretty much.  Facing that lineup is already painful enough.

[17 Seconds]

i'm starting to get the feeling that these winter meetings will be slow, which wouldn't be a bad thing for the cubs really

[Bertz]

The Braves are the only team in baseball that has more or less open financials.  If they run a $300M+ payroll and still turn a profit oh boy is the next CBA gonna get ugly.

[Irrelevant Dude]

2 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

i'm starting to get the feeling that these winter meetings will be slow, which wouldn't be a bad thing for the cubs really

The slow-developing offseason is the new normal for baseball.

[CubinNY]

10 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

 I'd bet the Braves are in on one of those super-opt-out-heavy kind of deals. Get your WS and then get paid in a year or two things.

I'm betting the Cubs, Dodgers, and other teams are in on that too. I think he's going to sign a record-breaking contract that neither he nor the team intends to be long-term. It's too much money for too long for clubs to be comfortable with. 

It could be the winner is the team willing to give him the highest AAV. 

[Jason Ross]

Just now, CubinNY said:

I'm betting the Cubs, Dodgers, and other teams are in on that too. I think he's going to sign a record-breaking contract that neither he nor the team intends to be long-term. It's too much money for too long for clubs to be comfortable with. 

It could be the winner is the team willing to give him the highest AAV. 

I think the Cubs and the Dodgers will likely have multiple different contracts on the table. One with super-opt-type things, others more geared to long term. I'd expect the Braves to be in, only on the former.

[Tryptamine]

Going to the Braves would be equivalent to when the Miami Heat added Wade,Bosh and Lebron for me. It more or less killed my interest in the sport going forward.