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A multi year tank in the NFL would be the dumbest possible thing.

 

Anyways they still have about $125-$130M (best est) they need to spend lest they just cut a check to the NFLPA.

 

One consideration as well : Is Arlington Park actually making Bears poor again? I hadn't given too much consideration to this possibility, but if Bears come out not as a top 3 FA spender, may have to revisit that one.

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Bertz Knoxville Smokies

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Tangentially related conversation I just saw on Twitter.

 

Absolutely gotta lock down the interior of both lines pre-draft though.

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I worry a great deal that he's trying to be frugal in a year where the market is taking a big jump, AND Poles actually has the money to do what he needs to do. He's stated he is concerned with value, but holding cash has zero value for the Bears at this point

 

If he's that concerned with value, it will be a multi-year tank. There's not going to be good value in free agency.

 

Yeah that's a problem. I don't mind the strategy to build through the draft and to try to find good value in FA, but he is also making win now moves to some degree, he has a massive amount of money to spend, and he just traded away multiple impact defensive players. He is not going to cobble together an adequate defense or OL on value FA signings and midround draft picks. If I were him I'd suck it up and break the bank for an impact player at a huge position of need and then focus on value signings.

 

He has to, didn't he say something about winning teams having 8-10 impact players? Well, here's his chance to sign one or two.

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A multi year tank in the NFL would be the dumbest possible thing.

 

Anyways they still have about $125-$130M (best est) they need to spend lest they just cut a check to the NFLPA.

 

One consideration as well : Is Arlington Park actually making Bears poor again? I hadn't given too much consideration to this possibility, but if Bears come out not as a top 3 FA spender, may have to revisit that one.

 

I mean poor in the same sense that Tom Ricketts was poor after his "biblical losses". Last year 30 of the 32 teams spent to within $8m of the cap (the other 2 were the Panthers ($11m) and Browns ($30m). It should never be an issue for an NFL team to spend up to the salary cap.

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A multi year tank in the NFL would be the dumbest possible thing.

 

Anyways they still have about $125-$130M (best est) they need to spend lest they just cut a check to the NFLPA.

 

One consideration as well : Is Arlington Park actually making Bears poor again? I hadn't given too much consideration to this possibility, but if Bears come out not as a top 3 FA spender, may have to revisit that one.

 

I mean poor in the same sense that Tom Ricketts was poor after his "biblical losses". Last year 30 of the 32 teams spent to within $8m of the cap (the other 2 were the Panthers ($11m) and Browns ($30m). It should never be an issue for an NFL team to spend up to the salary cap.

Well cap aside it is cash that matters, but there were really only 2 or 3 teams at risk not meeting that minimum by end of year

 

One if those handed out a 5/105 contract today, and I think also a big DT signing. So it's really down the Bears and Cowboys who probably have work to do towards the cash minimum.

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A multi year tank in the NFL would be the dumbest possible thing.

 

Anyways they still have about $125-$130M (best est) they need to spend lest they just cut a check to the NFLPA.

 

One consideration as well : Is Arlington Park actually making Bears poor again? I hadn't given too much consideration to this possibility, but if Bears come out not as a top 3 FA spender, may have to revisit that one.

 

I mean poor in the same sense that Tom Ricketts was poor after his "biblical losses". Last year 30 of the 32 teams spent to within $8m of the cap (the other 2 were the Panthers ($11m) and Browns ($30m). It should never be an issue for an NFL team to spend up to the salary cap.

Well cap aside it is cash that matters, but there were really only 2 or 3 teams at risk not meeting that minimum by end of year

 

One if those handed out a 5/105 contract today, and I think also a big DT signing. So it's really down the Bears and Cowboys who probably have work to do towards the cash minimum.

 

I have to be honest, I don't understand the cash handed out vs. cap space thing that well. It would be pretty pathetic if the largest NFL market with 1 team didn't have the resources needed to field a winning team. I understand Arlington Park is expensive and the Bears are planning to build an expensive stadium with their own money, but if they want to win as much as they claim their do then they can find the money to put enough resources towards a good team.

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I mean poor in the same sense that Tom Ricketts was poor after his "biblical losses". Last year 30 of the 32 teams spent to within $8m of the cap (the other 2 were the Panthers ($11m) and Browns ($30m). It should never be an issue for an NFL team to spend up to the salary cap.

Well cap aside it is cash that matters, but there were really only 2 or 3 teams at risk not meeting that minimum by end of year

 

One if those handed out a 5/105 contract today, and I think also a big DT signing. So it's really down the Bears and Cowboys who probably have work to do towards the cash minimum.

 

I have to be honest, I don't understand the cash handed out vs. cap space thing that well. It would be pretty pathetic if the largest NFL market with 1 team didn't have the resources needed to field a winning team. I understand Arlington Park is expensive and the Bears are planning to build an expensive stadium with their own money, but if they want to win as much as they claim their do then they can find the money to put enough resources towards a good team.

Plus unless someone can prove me wrong, winning has to generate more revenue than losing

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Sure looks like despite having the most fa money by far, Poles is going value shopping. Just doesn't make any sense.

 

Or players aren't convinced that the Bears are close to competing and are opting for other options.

 

That said, LOL at thinking the Broncos are much closer

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Sure looks like despite having the most fa money by far, Poles is going value shopping. Just doesn't make any sense.

I'd say they're still another 3-4 big chips to fall before we say that.

 

There is probably a lot of value in tier 2 still as well, but would be a lot of work to connect on that many, which is part of reason just splurging can make sense.

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Pocic is gone too. Would have been a great replacement at center.

 

Damn it. Really wanted him.

 

3/18 is what he got. Is poles aware he has money?

 

Yeah, incredibly reasonable deal.

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