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Time for another player' only meeting? To say what? We're a bunch of fumbling, bumbling horsefeathering idiots with perhaps, the most useless QB in the NFL? How do you lose a game when your opponent literally does nothing? Ask the Bears. Edited by gflore34
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Seriously though. 1st and 10 from the 24 with 1 TO left and they just run the clock down? That is almost exactly what Trestman did. Why would you not try to get a few more yards? Sure there is a small amount of risk but I’m certain going for more yards is the right play

 

Watching his post-game presser right now. That is the first thing he was asked about (not trying to get more yards) and he was completely dismissive of the question. Did not want to risk a fumble.

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Seriously though. 1st and 10 from the 24 with 1 TO left and they just run the clock down? That is almost exactly what Trestman did. Why would you not try to get a few more yards? Sure there is a small amount of risk but I’m certain going for more yards is the right play

 

Watching his post-game presser right now. That is the first thing he was asked about (not trying to get more yards) and he was completely dismissive of the question. Did not want to risk a fumble.

 

 

Given you've got a QB who, earlier just dropped the ball, that's probably a legitimate concern.

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Seriously though. 1st and 10 from the 24 with 1 TO left and they just run the clock down? That is almost exactly what Trestman did. Why would you not try to get a few more yards? Sure there is a small amount of risk but I’m certain going for more yards is the right play

 

Watching his post-game presser right now. That is the first thing he was asked about (not trying to get more yards) and he was completely dismissive of the question. Did not want to risk a fumble.

 

 

Given you've got a QB who, earlier just dropped the ball, that's probably a legitimate concern.

 

That wasn't a hand-off though.

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Watching his post-game presser right now. That is the first thing he was asked about (not trying to get more yards) and he was completely dismissive of the question. Did not want to risk a fumble.

 

 

Given you've got a QB who, earlier just dropped the ball, that's probably a legitimate concern.

 

That wasn't a hand-off though.

 

With the game in balance would you trust your mentally fragile, low football IQ OB to successfully execute anything?

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Given you've got a QB who, earlier just dropped the ball, that's probably a legitimate concern.

 

That wasn't a hand-off though.

 

With the game in balance would you trust your mentally fragile, low football IQ OB to successfully execute anything?

 

I would trust him to execute a simple hand-off, yes. Seeing as how that is one thing I cannot recall the last time he screwed that up.

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Given you've got a QB who, earlier just dropped the ball, that's probably a legitimate concern.

 

That wasn't a hand-off though.

 

With the game in balance would you trust your mentally fragile, low football IQ OB to successfully execute anything?

 

I’m guessing the difference in making a 35 yard FG vs a 41 yard FG is worth the risk of fumbling which has probably a 1% chance of happening given the situation where they are told to secure the ball over all else. All in all he should have hit the 41 yarder regardless but it seems moronic to not try to have the kick from as close as possible.

 

Anyways it’s hilarious that the Bears came away from 3 1st and goal situations from the 9, 4 and 1 yard line with 9 points in a game they lost by 1 point

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It doesn’t seem like a very valid thought process. It’s not like he’s eliminating the risk by not running another play. There is still the greater risk of missing a longer field goal.
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That wasn't a hand-off though.

 

With the game in balance would you trust your mentally fragile, low football IQ OB to successfully execute anything?

 

I would trust him to execute a simple hand-off, yes. Seeing as how that is one thing I cannot recall the last time he screwed that up.

 

 

I agree with you but, given most anything they've tried backfires I can understand Nagy being a little gun-shy.

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That wasn't a hand-off though.

 

With the game in balance would you trust your mentally fragile, low football IQ OB to successfully execute anything?

 

I’m guessing the difference in making a 35 yard FG vs a 41 yard FG is worth the risk of fumbling which has probably a 1% chance of happening given the situation where they are told to secure the ball over all else. All in all he should have hit the 41 yarder regardless but it seems moronic to not try to have the kick from as close as possible.

 

Anyways it’s hilarious that the Bears came away from 3 1st and goal situations from the 9, 4 and 1 yard line with 9 points in a game they lost by 1 point

 

That's where the game was lost, you've got try to not score at least one TD in those situations. And lo and behold the Bears tried and succeeded.

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Nagy was a horrible play caller in the 1 playoff game with the Chiefs, he has continued to be a bad play caller this past year and a half. Of course, calling better plays might eliminate opportunities to show how poorly he is at in-game managing as well.

 

Going from Mitch to Daniel might take them from 6 wins to 7, who cares at this point since the season is done.

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Mitch has been bad, but he might be thought of a little differently if the Eagles playoff game and today’s game was won by the kicker

Nope

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Mitch has been bad, but he might be thought of a little differently if the Eagles playoff game and today’s game was won by the kicker

 

Yeah, he’d be looked at as bad AND lucky instead of just bad

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that's one of those era ending losses

 

What era? One good season

 

Based on the past 30 years of Bears football, one good season is an era

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So if you could trade Mack for something similar for what you gave up, would you do it?

 

Obviously would not be as much given a year and a half has been taken from his prime.

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So if you could trade Mack for something similar for what you gave up, would you do it?

 

Obviously would not be as much given a year and a half has been taken from his prime.

 

Yeah if you could get a 1st and a 2nd for him right now I’d do it in a heartbeat. Would get us out of a lot of problems imo.

 

That’s not to say I regret the Mack trade...if Trubisky wasn’t garbage it would have been an amazing trade. And even though he is, it was still a good move and got us a division title. But Mitch is garbage so we need picks and cap flexibility to try to build a team around the next Bears QB

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So if you could trade Mack for something similar for what you gave up, would you do it?

 

Obviously would not be as much given a year and a half has been taken from his prime.

 

 

Probably. We are so screwed on draft picks right now. In 2020, the Raiders' 2nd is the only pick the Bears have in the first four rounds.

 

They bet everything on a two-year window of last year and this year. I'm not even sorry they made that bet, to be honest, but it crapped out and it's gonna take years to unwind.

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So if you could trade Mack for something similar for what you gave up, would you do it?

 

Obviously would not be as much given a year and a half has been taken from his prime.

 

 

Probably. We are so screwed on draft picks right now. In 2020, the Raiders' 2nd is the only pick the Bears have in the first four rounds.

 

They bet everything on a two-year window of last year and this year. I'm not even sorry they made that bet, to be honest, but it crapped out and it's gonna take years to unwind.

They gave their own 2nd too.

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I don’t like the idea of giving a general manager a second bite at the apple on drafting a franchise quarterback. He screwed it up the first time, he’ll screw it up again. So I don’t know where the great Bears quarterback comes from, but I don’t think it’s going to come from Pace via the draft.
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That wasn't a hand-off though.

 

With the game in balance would you trust your mentally fragile, low football IQ OB to successfully execute anything?

 

I would trust him to execute a simple hand-off, yes. Seeing as how that is one thing I cannot recall the last time he screwed that up.

It’s about more than just fumbling, though. The OL sucks and they would know a run is coming. Who’s to say we don’t lose 2-3 yards trying to run at that point? I hate Nagy and his play calling but the kneel down didn’t lose the game.

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So if you could trade Mack for something similar for what you gave up, would you do it?

 

Obviously would not be as much given a year and a half has been taken from his prime.

 

Yeah if you could get a 1st and a 2nd for him right now I’d do it in a heartbeat. Would get us out of a lot of problems imo.

 

That’s not to say I regret the Mack trade...if Trubisky wasn’t garbage it would have been an amazing trade. And even though he is, it was still a good move and got us a division title. But Mitch is garbage so we need picks and cap flexibility to try to build a team around the next Bears QB

 

Yeah, I would do that trade again 100 times out of 100. It really sucks that they rolled snake eyes on a QB, but It was the right move.

 

Honestly, I'd trade everything not nailed down except maybe Roquan if offered appropriate value. At minimum though we need to send out a few WRs and DBs by Tuesday, and consider Mack/Floyd trades in the offseason.

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I don’t like the idea of giving a general manager a second bite at the apple on drafting a franchise quarterback. He screwed it up the first time, he’ll screw it up again. So I don’t know where the great Bears quarterback comes from, but I don’t think it’s going to come from Pace via the draft.

 

I don't think he's going to get a second bite.

 

But no GM (whether Pace or someone else) is going to get a chance to draft a franchise QB for the Bears in 2020 because there aren't the draft picks there to do it.

 

I think the Bears are going to give Pace 2020 to prove to them that he deserves a chance to make the next first round draft pick for the Bears in 2021. No real point in bringing in a different GM when that GM is going to be completely hamstrung by the lack of picks.

 

NFL teams don't tend to hold a fire sale for draft picks, but I'd think the Bears would be awfully tempted to give it a shot. Even if you're only getting 5th and 6th round picks, if you stock pile a few, you might be able to trade back up into the 2nd or 3rd round.

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