General Cubs Chit-Chat

[Cubswin11]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

Murton hit .353 in nine games in Iowa. He played 51 games with the Cubs that season and batted .321 with a .908 OPS. He hit .337 in the Arizona Fall League, and the next season left spring training as the Cubs’ Opening Day left fielder. He hit .297 with 13 homers in 144 games in 2006, but the Cubs signed Alfonso Soriano at the end of the season, and in 2007, under a number of suggestions and changes, Murton was directed away from his natural right-center loft power swing and toward more ground balls.

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

[GaryWoods]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

Murton hit .353 in nine games in Iowa. He played 51 games with the Cubs that season and batted .321 with a .908 OPS. He hit .337 in the Arizona Fall League, and the next season left spring training as the Cubs’ Opening Day left fielder. He hit .297 with 13 homers in 144 games in 2006, but the Cubs signed Alfonso Soriano at the end of the season, and in 2007, under a number of suggestions and changes, Murton was directed away from his natural right-center loft power swing and toward more ground balls.

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'd forgotten about Murton (along with pretty much everyone else from 2005-2014) so I looked up his stats. Am I the only one who didn't know he spent a season at Iowa when he came back from Japan?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm a little skeptical of that article's framing. Murton did not have plus power for an outfielder, and he certainly wasn't working with the juiced ball of today. Less loft and more line drives is a pretty logical plan of attack. In 2006 he was pretty high on the list for IFFB% too.

[UMFan83]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

 

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'd forgotten about Murton (along with pretty much everyone else from 2005-2014) so I looked up his stats. Am I the only one who didn't know he spent a season at Iowa when he came back from Japan?

 

I remember he was halfway decent and there was a small push by fans to have him promoted to Chicago. Looking back I would have loved for him to have gotten a cameo appearance in September so we could haven given someone from the weird Hendry-era team mid-2000's teams a World Series ring.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

 

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'd forgotten about Murton (along with pretty much everyone else from 2005-2014) so I looked up his stats. Am I the only one who didn't know he spent a season at Iowa when he came back from Japan?

I was irrationally all about Murton, so I was well aware of it. Another did you know: Murton once held the Japanese-league record for most hits in a season, breaking Ichiro's mark, which has since been surpassed.

[We Got The Whole 9]

I'm a little skeptical of that article's framing. Murton did not have plus power for an outfielder, and he certainly wasn't working with the juiced ball of today. Less loft and more line drives is a pretty logical plan of attack. In 2006 he was pretty high on the list for IFFB% too.

Line drives, sure. Ground balls, god I hope not. He was, what, a 40 runner if that? Maybe they did frame it incorrectly, but it does specifically cite grounders. That would be under Jaramillo's direction I suppose. His philosophy was basically be aggressive, put it in play if it's in the zone. Murton was exciting to me when he came up because we hadn't had a position player come up and be successful since Patterson, and he actually had a disciplined approach. I can see those 2 clashing a bit. If they hadn't messed with him, maybe he would've been more successful under Gerald Perry, who was about working counts, letting the pitch get deep and going oppo more often. It's unfortunate that when our offense became elite in 2008 he wasn't a big part of it. It feels like Murton's original approach would've fit that squad really well.

[Brian]

Little league game jersey

 

[squally1313]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

Murton hit .353 in nine games in Iowa. He played 51 games with the Cubs that season and batted .321 with a .908 OPS. He hit .337 in the Arizona Fall League, and the next season left spring training as the Cubs’ Opening Day left fielder. He hit .297 with 13 homers in 144 games in 2006, but the Cubs signed Alfonso Soriano at the end of the season, and in 2007, under a number of suggestions and changes, Murton was directed away from his natural right-center loft power swing and toward more ground balls.

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'm going to assume you meant "KB light/lite" there, because otherwise...no. He was definitely got a raw deal, but he wasn't some savior by any means.

[GaryWoods]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

 

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'm going to assume you meant "KB light/lite" there, because otherwise...no. He was definitely got a raw deal, but he wasn't some savior by any means.

 

I thought he meant like Kris Bryant from 05-07 when he was in Pony League.

[Andy]

Little league game jersey

 

Something like that would've been way better for Players Weekend.

[Cubswin11]

Article about Matt Murton and deadline deals in the Athletic. This struck me as very odd and extremely stupid.

 

 

 

Holy horsefeathers that is dumb.

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'm going to assume you meant "KB light/lite" there, because otherwise...no. He was definitely got a raw deal, but he wasn't some savior by any means.

Yeah that was suppose to be "KB Lite." He would've really benefited from the launch angle stuff, I think.

[jersey cubs fan]

Murton would’ve been a really good player had he been around a smarter organization and/or was coming up now in the launch angle/juiced ball era. He was basically KB like at the plate from 05-07.

 

It’s also hilarious we got him because Hendry just spoke up on the conference call finalizing the Nomar trade and said we’d take him at the 11th hour when there was confusion which of the teams he was going too and they didn’t have time to sort it through.

 

I'm going to assume you meant "KB light/lite" there, because otherwise...no. He was definitely got a raw deal, but he wasn't some savior by any means.

Yeah that was suppose to be "KB Lite." He would've really benefited from the launch angle stuff, I think.

Every time this type of thing is brought up I think back to our crappy high school coach who came out of some minor league system and insisted on drilling into all of our heads to swing down on the ball and pound it into the ground. Every batting drill was some sort of variation of just chopping dramatically down.

 

Dude ruined my career*

 

 

*didn't have a career

[Cubswin11]

So Almora is at -3 DRS, he isn’t even a that great of fielder which many have been saying on here for a while and the offense speaks for itself. He hits Arb 1 next year, he probably isn’t worth even offering a contract to.

[Cubfanintheknow]

 

I'm going to assume you meant "KB light/lite" there, because otherwise...no. He was definitely got a raw deal, but he wasn't some savior by any means.

Yeah that was suppose to be "KB Lite." He would've really benefited from the launch angle stuff, I think.

Every time this type of thing is brought up I think back to our crappy high school coach who came out of some minor league system and insisted on drilling into all of our heads to swing down on the ball and pound it into the ground. Every batting drill was some sort of variation of just chopping dramatically down.

 

Dude ruined my career*

 

 

*didn't have a career

 

My high school coach sophomore year insisted me and a couple other guys switch hit that season. I was miserable. And I batted .405 my freshman year!

 

I coulda been somebody!*

 

 

*No I couldn't.

[Bull]

So Almora is at -3 DRS, he isn’t even a that great of fielder which many have been saying on here for a while and the offense speaks for itself. He hits Arb 1 next year, he probably isn’t worth even offering a contract to.

Don’t poke the troll.

[Cubswin11]

So Almora is at -3 DRS, he isn’t even a that great of fielder which many have been saying on here for a while and the offense speaks for itself. He hits Arb 1 next year, he probably isn’t worth even offering a contract to.

Don’t poke the troll.

What if I added that from last July to current (+/- full seasons worth of PAs, 554) he’s at .238/.272/.352 61 wRC+.

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

So Almora is at -3 DRS, he isn’t even a that great of fielder which many have been saying on here for a while and the offense speaks for itself. He hits Arb 1 next year, he probably isn’t worth even offering a contract to.

Don’t poke the troll.

What if I added that from last July to current (+/- full seasons worth of PAs, 554) he’s at .238/.272/.352 61 wRC+.

 

Have you ever had a nightmare about Albert Almora?

[Cubswin11]

[CubinNY]

They don't just suck on the road. They suck. Who's to blame? I need names, people.

[Clem Fandango]

IIRC, several years ago when the Cubs needed a bullpen fix Jed Hoyer said something to the effect of "I'm not too worried about the bullpen because they're usually the easiest problems to fix"

 

So blame Mr. "Bullpens are easy"

[Flames24Rulz]

IIRC, several years ago when the Cubs needed a bullpen fix Jed Hoyer said something to the effect of "I'm not too worried about the bullpen because they're usually the easiest problems to fix"

 

So blame Mr. "Bullpens are easy"

 

i'm totally good with firing Jed after this year too.

[squally1313]

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Well that is...something.

[Old Style]

[TMan92]

 

Not sure they had any other choice.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

This is all Bote's fault.