General Cubs Chit-Chat

[soccer10k]

Morrow officially out for the year per Theo.

 

artist rendition of the brandon morrow era:

 

I have no idea who we might have used that $10M on, but I'm gonna be pissed about that signing probably forever.

 

It allowed us to see something we’ve never seen before - a pitcher being unavailable the day after throwing only two pitches in a game. That was the game against the Marlins that went like 16 innings last year where Maddon had him warm up 4 times in the bullpen before coming in.

[Janelle-Alexis]

Morrow officially out for the year per Theo.

 

artist rendition of the brandon morrow era:

 

 

$172,181 per batter faced

[Cubswin11]

I still think it was a solid signing and the risk was reflected in the price. He put up .7 fWAR and 1.4 bWAR last year. He probably gets hurt along the way at some point anyways but we also know Maddon (in New York) went against the usage rules/plan on him and the medical staff didn’t do the proper scan on him (like Darvish) until much longer after he was hurt to find out what was wrong.

[TMan92]

Morrow officially out for the year per Theo.

 

artist rendition of the brandon morrow era:

 

 

$172,181 per batter faced

 

Insurance will help. His usage by the Dodgers is what killed him in my opinion.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm a huge fan of how they've marketed the farm (suddenly we love pitchers and you should love our pitchers, the first five years with all the bats were the ruse) as they restock on bats and maybe even find a pitcher or two.

 

[PackLandVA]

Morrow officially out for the year per Theo.

 

Who?

Theo Epstein. He’s the guy that runs the Cubs and says things.

 

The first one. Morrow?

[ConstableRabbit]

 

Who?

Theo Epstein. He’s the guy that runs the Cubs and says things.

 

The first one. Morrow?

The guy who was top 40 of NL relievers in fWAR despite pitching half the innings of most of the guys ahead of him.

[Clem Fandango]

Insurance will help. His usage by the Dodgers is what killed him in my opinion.

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

[Andy]

Insurance will help. His usage by the Dodgers is what killed him in my opinion.

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

[Gmoney08]

Insurance will help. His usage by the Dodgers is what killed him in my opinion.

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

I feel 20m was worth the risk.

[javy knows my name]

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

I feel 20m was worth the risk.

 

That's 20m of the Ricketts money that didn't go to awful Trump things

[Sammy Sofa]

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

I feel 20m was worth the risk.

 

That's 20m of the Ricketts money that didn't go to awful Trump things

 

The only good argument for this terrible signing.

[Derwood]

 

I feel 20m was worth the risk.

 

That's 20m of the Ricketts money that didn't go to awful Trump things

 

The only good argument for this terrible signing.

 

Assuming Morrow isn't also an avid Trump supporter

[David]

Insurance will help. His usage by the Dodgers is what killed him in my opinion.

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

It went full worst case in terms of health (possibly thanks to maddon ignoring usage orders) and he was still worth like 5.5 mil last year. It wasn't some disastrous signing. And the injury risk was baked into the modest cost. If he had no injury history, he would've cost a lot horsefeathering more.

 

If you wanna be mad at some horsefeathers in hindsight, the Heyward deal is right there.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

It went full worst case in terms of health (possibly thanks to maddon ignoring usage orders) and he was still worth like 5.5 mil last year. It wasn't some disastrous signing. And the injury risk was baked into the modest cost. If he had no injury history, he would've cost a lot horsefeathering more.

 

If you wanna be mad at some horsefeathers in hindsight, the Heyward deal is right there.

 

My disgust is large.

 

My resentment contains multitudes.

[Andy]

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

It went full worst case in terms of health (possibly thanks to maddon ignoring usage orders) and he was still worth like 5.5 mil last year. It wasn't some disastrous signing. And the injury risk was baked into the modest cost. If he had no injury history, he would've cost a lot horsefeathering more.

 

If you wanna be mad at some horsefeathers in hindsight, the Heyward deal is right there.

I didn't hate the Heyward deal at the time, and neither did anyone else here as far as I know. I was skittish of the Morrow signing immediately, so this isn't about hindsight.

[Bertz]

 

That's 20m of the Ricketts money that didn't go to awful Trump things

 

The only good argument for this terrible signing.

 

Assuming Morrow isn't also an avid Trump supporter

 

IIRC Morrow is pretty vocally liberal. It's basically him and Sean Doolittle.

[TMan92]

 

The only good argument for this terrible signing.

 

Assuming Morrow isn't also an avid Trump supporter

 

IIRC Morrow is pretty vocally liberal. It's basically him and Sean Doolittle.

 

All the damn liberals want to get paid for not working!

 

Yes, I am joking.

[badger]

 

I would argue that him having a history of getting injured every year he's been in the majors since 2009 is what killed him

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

It went full worst case in terms of health (possibly thanks to maddon ignoring usage orders) and he was still worth like 5.5 mil last year. It wasn't some disastrous signing. And the injury risk was baked into the modest cost. If he had no injury history, he would've cost a lot horsefeathering more.

 

If you wanna be mad at some horsefeathers in hindsight, the Heyward deal is right there.

 

I’m pretty sure being legit mad about the Heyward signing would be revisionist history for most Cubs fans. Everyone I know was pretty pumped about it.

[Stu]

It was so tantalizing seeing what Morrow could be though. I remember one game he came in in a tough spot with 2 outs in the 9th — he threw three straight unhittable 101 mph fastballs to end the game.

[Derwood]

Yep. If the revisionist history becomes "oh, well the Dodgers broke him" it's going to be annoying. This guy had giant, blood-red flags all over his career and Theo should've let someone else give him $20M to rehab for 2 years.

 

It went full worst case in terms of health (possibly thanks to maddon ignoring usage orders) and he was still worth like 5.5 mil last year. It wasn't some disastrous signing. And the injury risk was baked into the modest cost. If he had no injury history, he would've cost a lot horsefeathering more.

 

If you wanna be mad at some horsefeathers in hindsight, the Heyward deal is right there.

 

I’m pretty sure being legit mad about the Heyward signing would be revisionist history for most Cubs fans. Everyone I know was pretty pumped about it.

 

I mean, we have the receipts

[Sammy Sofa]

Man, that StylesClash guy was the big winner in that thread. WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Man, that StylesClash guy was the big winner in that thread. WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED.

Their middle of the order trio of Carpenter,Grichuk and Piscotty isn't that far behind that of Rizzo, Bryant and Schwarber.

[Sammy Sofa]

Look, even the best of us aren't right 100% of the time.

 

But damned if his takes on Heyward and the OF weren't spooktacular.

[squally1313]

 

Assuming Morrow isn't also an avid Trump supporter

 

IIRC Morrow is pretty vocally liberal. It's basically him and Sean Doolittle.

 

All the damn liberals want to get paid for not working!

 

Yes, I am joking.

 

No, no, I would very much like to get paid for not working.