General Cubs Chit-Chat

[Tim]

I vote for robZ

[CubInOK]

This is the worst tweet ever from this account.

 

[davell]

 

So, Cole needs to be a Cub forever.....

[Regular Show]

 

So, Cole needs to be a Cub forever.....

 

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The responses to this are amazing:

 

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[CyHawk_Cub]

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[UMFan83]

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Doesn’t sound promising

 

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[17 Seconds]

that offseason was not great

[chibears55]

I cant read those tweets

Anyone know how i can?

 

Just saw Ohtani gotta have TJ surgery

[Regular Show]

that offseason was not great

 

The offseason moves were not great, but not because of the Morrow signing.

 

It's because of the Darvish + Chatwood signings and how little we've gotten from them.

 

Letting Wade Davis leave and signing Morrow was the right thing to do. I guess we could've traded for another Closer, but then we'd be losing prospects/players.

[UMFan83]

that offseason was not great

 

The offseason moves were not great, but not because of the Morrow signing.

 

It's because of the Darvish + Chatwood signings and how little we've gotten from them.

 

Letting Wade Davis leave and signing Morrow was the right thing to do. I guess we could've traded for another Closer, but then we'd be losing prospects/players.

 

Not so much of “Theo did bad” as it is “Everything turned out bad”. The Cubs spent more money than any other team in FA last year and due to injury or ineffective play, it’s likely that we will not see a single one of them in a playoff game

[Cubswin11]

that offseason was not great

 

The offseason moves were not great, but not because of the Morrow signing.

 

It's because of the Darvish + Chatwood signings and how little we've gotten from them.

 

Letting Wade Davis leave and signing Morrow was the right thing to do. I guess we could've traded for another Closer, but then we'd be losing prospects/players.

 

Not so much of “Theo did bad” as it is “Everything turned out bad”. The Cubs spent more money than any other team in FA last year and due to injury or ineffective play, it’s likely that we will not see a single one of them in a playoff game

Yeah process > results. Still fine with the process of the offseason, the results have sucked. Wish we would’ve aimed higher than Kintzler at the deadline if they knew at the time Morrow was unlikely to come back.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, even best case scenario Kintzler was just gonna be Just a Dude. Shoot for the Bullpen of Doom, dammit.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The process included being really bad at developing pitching internally, forcing them to take high risk moves.

[Banedon]

The process included being really bad at developing pitching internally, forcing them to take high risk moves.

 

That's been an organizational philosophy though. Draft and develop badass position players, which are more predictable. Trade for and sign pitching in free agency because of the unpredictability. They weren't forced to make high risk moves...it was a strategic choice.

[ConstableRabbit]

 

The offseason moves were not great, but not because of the Morrow signing.

 

It's because of the Darvish + Chatwood signings and how little we've gotten from them.

 

Letting Wade Davis leave and signing Morrow was the right thing to do. I guess we could've traded for another Closer, but then we'd be losing prospects/players.

 

Not so much of “Theo did bad” as it is “Everything turned out bad”. The Cubs spent more money than any other team in FA last year and due to injury or ineffective play, it’s likely that we will not see a single one of them in a playoff game

Yeah process > results. Still fine with the process of the offseason, the results have sucked. Wish we would’ve aimed higher than Kintzler at the deadline if they knew at the time Morrow was unlikely to come back.

*Unless the result is that Cubs win the World Series, Per NSBB standards.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's a guarantee that if you find a Braves fan (first of all, that's impressive) who says they're perfectly satisfied with how the 90's Braves' run played out, then that person is a stone cold dork.

[UMFan83]

Dumb question, but would you consider shifting around the bullpen roles with it looking less likely Morrow will be back? Strop is fine as a fill in closer, but I think he works better as a setup guy who can come in mid-inning and get out of a jam, or face down the heart of an order in the later innings.

 

I guess I'm not really too sure who should replace him though, maybe Cishek?

[Banedon]

Dumb question, but would you consider shifting around the bullpen roles with it looking less likely Morrow will be back? Strop is fine as a fill in closer, but I think he works better as a setup guy who can come in mid-inning and get out of a jam, or face down the heart of an order in the later innings.

 

I guess I'm not really too sure who should replace him though, maybe Cishek?

 

If you're not gonna use Strop to close, I'd say Chavez...the homer last night not withstanding.

 

But Strop really is probably the best candidate.

[squally1313]

Dumb question, but would you consider shifting around the bullpen roles with it looking less likely Morrow will be back? Strop is fine as a fill in closer, but I think he works better as a setup guy who can come in mid-inning and get out of a jam, or face down the heart of an order in the later innings.

 

I guess I'm not really too sure who should replace him though, maybe Cishek?

 

If you're not gonna use Strop to close, I'd say Chavez...the homer last night not withstanding.

 

But Strop really is probably the best candidate.

 

Yeah, doing that with Chavez eliminates one of his unique qualities, which is that he can throw multiple innings effectively out the pen. Now, in October that may be Monty's job, but given the...fragile nature of our starting pitching, I think you keep both of them in the middle innings role to put out fires.

[Sammy Sofa]

I really don't see it being someone besides Strop or Cishek.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Yeah, I think Strop closing is correct. It can’t be Carl because when he doesn’t have it, you’re screwed. I think Cishek is the best bet to put out fires, because he can get double plays and seems to have a rubber arm. Chavez needs to be able to go multiple innings if a starter fucks up. Strop seems like the most old-school type closer we have — 1 inning, gets whiffs, might make it interesting but can get out of jams.

[UMFan83]

Yeah, I think Strop closing is correct. It can’t be Carl because when he doesn’t have it, you’re screwed. I think Cishek is the best bet to put out fires, because he can get double plays and seems to have a rubber arm. Chavez needs to be able to go multiple innings if a starter horsefeathers up. Strop seems like the most old-school type closer we have — 1 inning, gets whiffs, might make it interesting but can get out of jams.

 

Strop has had his blowups too though and occasionally struggles with control. Maybe not as frequently or as bad as Carl but Carl has better overall stuff when he's on, and when he's off its mostly a control thing, he still doesnt usually get hit hard. I dunno I guess there is no ideal answer, and Strop has been mostly fine as closer and certainly has paid his dues in the Cubs pen.

[Andy]

I think the way it is now is the way it should be handled. Strop is the nominal closer but Joe has shown he's not wedded to it if he needs to go another direction on a given day. It's not ideal but it's probably the best we can do.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The process included being really bad at developing pitching internally, forcing them to take high risk moves.

 

That's been an organizational philosophy though. Draft and develop badass position players, which are more predictable. Trade for and sign pitching in free agency because of the unpredictability. They weren't forced to make high risk moves...it was a strategic choice.

 

Originally that plan was to draft hitters with the high pick but still get pitchers by drafting them in bulk with supplemental picks and later rounds. That approach netted pretty much nothing.

[Banedon]

Yeah, I think Strop closing is correct. It can’t be Carl because when he doesn’t have it, you’re screwed. I think Cishek is the best bet to put out fires, because he can get double plays and seems to have a rubber arm. Chavez needs to be able to go multiple innings if a starter horsefeathers up. Strop seems like the most old-school type closer we have — 1 inning, gets whiffs, might make it interesting but can get out of jams.

 

Strop has had his blowups too though and occasionally struggles with control. Maybe not as frequently or as bad as Carl but Carl has better overall stuff when he's on, and when he's off its mostly a control thing, he still doesnt usually get hit hard. I dunno I guess there is no ideal answer, and Strop has been mostly fine as closer and certainly has paid his dues in the Cubs pen.

 

I don't think Strop's blowups or control issues are as significant as you fear. He blew the save the day after Morrow went on the DL, and he blew one a couple weeks ago against Cincy, but he's been pretty nails otherwise as a closer.