Offseason Rumors

[imb]

we should get khalil greene

[Clem Fandango]

we should get khalil greene

 

His fly ball rates are off the charts!

[seanimal]

we should get khalil greene

 

coincidentally, i think we were having this discussion the last time hoops was a poster

[dcvalpo]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

[MSG T]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

 

 

Brilliant!!!

 

Hey, we thought about doing something, then made a decision not to do it.

[USSoccer]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

 

Please tell me that's a satire and I just didn't bother to read the last page of the thread or something, because that's the least insightful observation ever.

[Cubswin11]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

Did Heyman hack ABTY's account and make a post on PSD?

[SABR Gamer]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

 

Please tell me that's a satire and I just didn't bother to read the last page of the thread or something, because that's the least insightful observation ever.

 

Evaluate the situation.

[Guest]

smh

[dcvalpo]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

 

Please tell me that's a satire and I just didn't bother to read the last page of the thread or something, because that's the least insightful observation ever.

 

-.-

[jersey cubs fan]

so this is dcvalpo making funnies?

[Guest]

Making is such a strong word.

[Tyrant]

The Cubs will be active in some way this winter, whether it be by making a trade, signing a free agent, bringing up a minor leaguer, or simply just thinking about doing one of these things. My sources---because I am close to major league people---say that one of the above options is inevitable. It will all just depend on money, interest, logistics, and organizational philosophy.

 

Has to be a joke

[sneakypower]

Sorry, I'm taking the under for 9 million being the new cost of a win based on this one deal. I don't doubt salary inflation, but I do doubt this deal as the new norm.

 

The worst part of this deal is that it probably pushes the Indians closer to giving Ubaldo the qualifying offer, if they were on the fence before.

how did i miss that he was basically the best pitcher in baseball, post-ASB??

 

Indians are sounding sure to give him the QO, FG crowd thinks he goes 4/49; that'd be tempting if we miss on Tanaka

[Clem Fandango]

ESPN's Buster Olney reports that the Angels could be willing to deal Mark Trumbo and/or Peter Bourjos for pitching.

Bourjos was limited to 55 games this season due to a wrist injury, but his defense in center field could make him popular in trade talks. With 95 homers over the last three seasons, Trumbo figures to be the more attractive chip, but he's not a strong defender and his on-base percentage leaves a lot to be desired.

 

I don't really care about Trumbo, but Bourjos is an appealing target for the outfield, IMO. I can't imagine he'd cost a whole lot, and he's just barely entered his prime. He might be my favorite buy low option if he's truly available. At the very least he'd be a stellar defensive stopgap if the Cubs don't target Choo or Ellsbury this winter

[davell]

Sorry, I'm taking the under for 9 million being the new cost of a win based on this one deal. I don't doubt salary inflation, but I do doubt this deal as the new norm.

 

The worst part of this deal is that it probably pushes the Indians closer to giving Ubaldo the qualifying offer, if they were on the fence before.

how did i miss that he was basically the best pitcher in baseball, post-ASB??

 

Indians are sounding sure to give him the QO, FG crowd thinks he goes 4/49; that'd be tempting if we miss on Tanaka

I'm thinking Ubaldo gets 5/75 or so in this market.

[treebird]

Sorry, I'm taking the under for 9 million being the new cost of a win based on this one deal. I don't doubt salary inflation, but I do doubt this deal as the new norm.

 

The worst part of this deal is that it probably pushes the Indians closer to giving Ubaldo the qualifying offer, if they were on the fence before.

how did i miss that he was basically the best pitcher in baseball, post-ASB??

 

Indians are sounding sure to give him the QO, FG crowd thinks he goes 4/49; that'd be tempting if we miss on Tanaka

I'm thinking Ubaldo gets 5/75 or so in this market.

 

i am way too lazy to confirm this, but i seem to remember the fg crowdsource contract thing routinely underselling what people would eventually get. obviously, this is a year-to-year thing and they can all see their past results, so maybe this is the year they correct that and start nailing things, but i'm inclined to think ubaldo will do better than 4/49.

[Guest]

Sorry, I'm taking the under for 9 million being the new cost of a win based on this one deal. I don't doubt salary inflation, but I do doubt this deal as the new norm.

 

The worst part of this deal is that it probably pushes the Indians closer to giving Ubaldo the qualifying offer, if they were on the fence before.

how did i miss that he was basically the best pitcher in baseball, post-ASB??

 

Indians are sounding sure to give him the QO, FG crowd thinks he goes 4/49; that'd be tempting if we miss on Tanaka

I'm thinking Ubaldo gets 5/75 or so in this market.

 

i am way too lazy to confirm this, but i seem to remember the fg crowdsource contract thing routinely underselling what people would eventually get. obviously, this is a year-to-year thing and they can all see their past results, so maybe this is the year they correct that and start nailing things, but i'm inclined to think ubaldo will do better than 4/49.

 

Last year's biggest SP deals:

 

Player     Prediction   Actual
Greinke      6/114       6/147
Sanchez      4/52        5/80
Lohse        4/52        3/33
Haren        3/36        1/13
Jackson      3/36        4/52
Dempster     3/36        2/27

 

So if the accuracy is similar to last year, if the crowdsource is predicting 4/49, 5/75 isn't a terrible guess. Fangraphs did add more to the crowdsource this year, with options for predictions and what they think they *should* get, so maybe this year will be a little closer to reality. How many of those people feel he'll get the qualifying offer is also a big factor.

[davell]

Definite QO- McCann, Kendrys Morales(only because they've already said so), Cano, Ellsbury, Choo, Jimenez, Kuroda, Ervin Santana

 

Likely QO- Napoli, Drew, Granderson, Beltran

 

Possible QO- Nelson Cruz

 

I've seen stranger things if they were offered the QO- Saltalamacchia, Omar Infante, Juan Uribe, Bronson Arroyo, AJ Burnett, Haren

[rawaction]

Definite QO- McCann, Kendrys Morales(only because they've already said so), Cano, Ellsbury, Choo, Jimenez, Kuroda, Ervin Santana

 

Likely QO- Napoli, Drew, Granderson, Beltran

 

Possible QO- Nelson Cruz

 

I've seen stranger things if they were offered the QO- Saltalamacchia, Omar Infante, Juan Uribe, Bronson Arroyo, AJ Burnett, Haren

Pirates fans really want Burnett back. They won't offer for that type of money, but they love him.

[SouthSideRyan]

Haven't there been rumors that Burnett is basically Pittsburgh or nothing?

[davell]

Haven't there been rumors that Burnett is basically Pittsburgh or nothing?

Yeah.

[Sammy Sofa]

we should get khalil greene

 

coincidentally, i think we were having this discussion the last time hoops was a poster

 

Man, I loved the Greene theory after 2007, but I had no idea that he was a psycho (that works with both him and Meph).

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I'm pretty sure he had an anxiety disorder, not psychosis.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm pretty sure he had an anxiety disorder, not psychosis.

 

But what was wrong with Greene?