Offseason Rumors

[davell]

For Castro? From the Mets, give me Wheeler AND Syndergaard. If Rafael Montero is the going rate for Starlin, there's no way in hell we trade him.

[Guest]

For Castro? From the Mets, give me Wheeler AND Syndergaard. If Rafael Montero is the going rate for Starlin, there's no way in hell we trade him.

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[HoopsCubs]

For Castro? From the Mets, give me Wheeler AND Syndergaard. If Rafael Montero is the going rate for Starlin, there's no way in hell we trade him.

 

Evidently, Sandy was trying to buy low. Can't fault him. Every fan base tends to over-rate their players and prospects, in general. From what I have heard, many GMs don't think Castro has a lot of value to warrant 2 pitching prospects. His low OBP and erratic defense weigh him down.

 

Still, I expect Starlin will have a bounce-back year.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't know anything about Montero's scouting report, but his minor league numbers *are* pretty sick.

[Guest]

I don't know anything about Montero's scouting report, but his minor league numbers *are* pretty sick.

He scouts well, but not as well as his numbers would indicate.

[Guest]

I don't know anything about Montero's scouting report, but his minor league numbers *are* pretty sick.

 

Projects as a #3 starter according to BA's top 10 list for the Mets that came out today.

 

Pass.

[Guest]

For Castro? From the Mets, give me Wheeler AND Syndergaard. If Rafael Montero is the going rate for Starlin, there's no way in hell we trade him.

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[HoopsCubs]

For Castro? From the Mets, give me Wheeler AND Syndergaard. If Rafael Montero is the going rate for Starlin, there's no way in hell we trade him.

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Classic.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 2m

When I suggested STL as a possible destination to non-Cubs scouts/front office execs, ALL felt asking for both Miller & Martinez was crazy

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 1m

Most seem to suggest that getting just one would be a good baseball trade and even possibly tilted in the Cubs favor.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 2m

When I suggested STL as a possible destination to non-Cubs scouts/front office execs, ALL felt asking for both Miller & Martinez was crazy

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 1m

Most seem to suggest that getting just one would be a good baseball trade and even possibly tilted in the Cubs favor.

Doesn't surprise me at all. Same with respect to the Mets; no effing way are you getting Syndergaard AND Wheeler (or Montero or whoever) for Castro. I'd be surprised if we got either/or.

[HoopsCubs]

Since I have been away from this board for a long time, can someone bring me up to speed on what the conventional wisdom would have been on Castro's trade value if his 2013 campaign had been similar to 2012 & 2011 seasons? Just like many of your networks, my network has suggested that this Front Office wants to move him ASAP.

[jersey cubs fan]

Since I have been away from this board for a long time, can someone bring me up to speed on what the conventional wisdom would have been on Castro's trade value if his 2013 campaign had been similar to 2012 & 2011 seasons? Just like many of your networks, my network has suggested that this Front Office wants to move him ASAP.

 

Uh, the value would have been incredibly high.

[Guest]

convince another team that Castro was just working on things he'd been asked to work on this season, and don't accept anything less than what his value was at last offseason. if you don't get it, you don't trade him. look at next season.

[SouthSideRyan]

Since I have been away from this board for a long time, can someone bring me up to speed on what the conventional wisdom would have been on Castro's trade value if his 2013 campaign had been similar to 2012 & 2011 seasons? Just like many of your networks, my network has suggested that this Front Office wants to move him ASAP.

 

Then our front office is stupid.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

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I wouldn't be surprised if they're just dangling him out there to see if they can get an overpay.

 

But I also wouldn't be surprised if they genuinely wanted to move him. They've got a history of trading high-profile SS's. Castro's defense and approach stick out like sore thumbs against our organizational philosophy.

 

The MLB trade market isn't perfectly efficient, but surely it's efficient enough to accurately price in Castro's projection so that the whole "sell low" issue isn't really a problem.

[ConstableRabbit]

Damnit -- don't they know that I invested $24.99 in a STARLIN KNOWS shirt?

[imb]

[expletive] it, move him for something cool, i dont care what. if he bounces back ill just chalk it up to needing a change of scenery or whatever

[Guest]

Castro's defense and approach stick out like sore thumbs against our organizational philosophy.

 

/Trades Castro to make room for Baez

[SouthSideRyan]

I might feel better about this if it was just a salary dump. At least we'd only have a problem with ownership rather than a broke owner and a suddenly stupid front office.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Castro's defense and approach stick out like sore thumbs against our organizational philosophy.

 

/Trades Castro to make room for Baez

 

Maybe. Or maybe Baez moves to third and we cycle through scrapheap SS's like Boston always seemed to after Nomar.

[davell]

Of course the Mets won't give us a Wheeler/Syndergaard type package, nor would anyone else. The point I'm trying to make is you might as well keep him. I'll gamble he bounces back now that they're going to leave him alone and quit trying to turn him into something he's not. Is that a longterm 3 WAR type? Better ? No idea, but I expect him to be a very solid player and I'm not jumping the gun on trading him, even if he's got some stats that may indicate true regression. He's young enough and talented enough to fix them.

[Guest]

I might feel better about this if it was just a salary dump. At least we'd only have a problem with ownership rather than a broke owner and a suddenly stupid front office.

lol

[SouthSideRyan]

Since we have no money again and aren't going to try again, why would you trade Castro at his absolute nadir rather than let him go out and hit for an empty average and then trade him for the 2015 run?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Since we have no money again and aren't going to try again, why would you trade Castro at his absolute nadir rather than let him go out and hit for an empty average and then trade him for the 2015 run?

 

Your certainty that it's his nadir is odd.

[HoopsCubs]

Since I have been away from this board for a long time, can someone bring me up to speed on what the conventional wisdom would have been on Castro's trade value if his 2013 campaign had been similar to 2012 & 2011 seasons? Just like many of your networks, my network has suggested that this Front Office wants to move him ASAP.

 

Then our front office is stupid.

 

That's a bit harsh I think. A career .322 OBP is not impressive. But since he plays a deluxe position, I think they feel they can still move him for something compelling.