Offseason Rumors

[illiniguy]

I'd take Raul Adalberto Mondesi in a trade with the Royals.

Better be willing to include Baez of Bryant then. They are really high on Mondesi.

[Guest]

I'd take Raul Adalberto Mondesi in a trade with the Royals.

Better be willing to include Baez of Bryant then. They are really high on Mondesi.

 

They might be but Baez and Bryant are both better prospects than Mondesi.

[illiniguy]

I'd take Raul Adalberto Mondesi in a trade with the Royals.

Better be willing to include Baez of Bryant then. They are really high on Mondesi.

 

They might be but Baez and Bryant are both better prospects than Mondesi.

Absolutely, but they'd have to get blown away to deal him.

[Guest]

I'd take Raul Adalberto Mondesi in a trade with the Royals.

Better be willing to include Baez of Bryant then. They are really high on Mondesi.

 

They might be but Baez and Bryant are both better prospects than Mondesi.

Absolutely, but they'd have to get blown away to deal him.

They were even higher on Wil Myers.

[illiniguy]

I'd take Raul Adalberto Mondesi in a trade with the Royals.

Better be willing to include Baez of Bryant then. They are really high on Mondesi.

 

They might be but Baez and Bryant are both better prospects than Mondesi.

Absolutely, but they'd have to get blown away to deal him.

They were even higher on Wil Myers.

I'm not so sure they were. I think they kept him at AAA in 2012 because they were afraid he might get exposed. Maybe not though.

[rawaction]

Isn't Mondesi like 14? Naw I know he's 18 (barely), but he's so far away. The Cubs would have to be pretty desperate to get rid of someone in order to take him as the main piece in a trade. And thr Royals would have to be stupid to give him up this early in his development.

[Clem Fandango]

He's 18, but he's also already in A ball and wasn't completely useless there. That said, I wouldn't want to trade a major contributing piece of the major league roster for an 18 year old who still has yet to prove his age isn't going to slow him down in the minors.

[HoopsCubs]

Many scouts seem to be impressed with East Carolina pitcher, Jeff Hoffman. Could he fall to #4? The other college pitcher, who has intrigued many is Tyler Beede from Vanderbilt (former first round pick). But he seems to be experiencing control issues these days - maybe he sorts those out by Spring.

 

I think there is some merit in trading Castillo for pitching and signing Salty. I'd prefer if the Cubs not overpay for McCann.

[davell]

Both Hoffman and Beede have the talent to pull a "Jonathan Gray" and put themselves in legit contention to go 1-1. As do other players, with this being a very deep draft. Too early to really speculate, because the only thing we actually know is that the draft board next June will look a ton different than it does currently.

 

Personally, if I had to guess, I'll say that Kolek excites the hell out of scouts in the spring to where he's considered a Dylan Bundy type talent and that Alex Jackson shows he can stick behind the plate, amping his stock up even more. I'll say Hoffman pulls the Sean Manaea of the draft and doesn't prove himself enough. Leaving us a choice of Beede(shows better command), Luke Weaver(extremely solid all around), Grant Holmes(best available but HS pitcher) and Braxton Davidson(because he flat out mashes) as the group we're choosing from at 4, if the top 3 go according to talent.

[Guest]

What do you guys think of Cameron Maybin as a trade target this offseason? He put up 6.5 fWAR between 2011-12, and then missed basically all of 2013 with a knee injury and had wrist surgery in September. He's got an extension that pays him 5/7/8 over the next 3 years plus a 9M option, so it's big enough that the Padres may not want to pay it with their overloaded outfield(Venable, Quentin, Denorfia, Blanks, Decker, Fuentes). I can't seem to find much online about the Padres intentions for that OF, but what do you think is a reasonable deal that lands him?

[imb]

they would give us maybin for free, but i dont want to give anyone coming off wrist surgery any money

[davell]

Maybe something like Szczur and Cabrera. Not a lot.

[Guest]

they would give us maybin for free, but i dont want to give anyone coming off wrist surgery any money

 

IMO, that's a way they could get some disproportionate benefit, especially with the volume of guys who might be available coming off wrist issues. Maybin, Bourjos, and potentially Reddick would be good additions, especially Bourjos and Maybin, who can still provide a good deal of value even if the recovery from surgery saps them of some power. Sign me up for Maybin for free or Maybin for table scraps like Szczur/Cabrera.

[HoopsCubs]

What do you guys think of Cameron Maybin as a trade target this offseason? He put up 6.5 fWAR between 2011-12, and then missed basically all of 2013 with a knee injury and had wrist surgery in September. He's got an extension that pays him 5/7/8 over the next 3 years plus a 9M option, so it's big enough that the Padres may not want to pay it with their overloaded outfield(Venable, Quentin, Denorfia, Blanks, Decker, Fuentes). I can't seem to find much online about the Padres intentions for that OF, but what do you think is a reasonable deal that lands him?

 

TT: I would stay away if it was my call. He has a career OBP of less than .315 and a career OPS of less than .690, and as you pointed out has $20M coming his way over the next 3 years. I'll take Junior Lake at less than $2M over the next 3 seasons, who I believe has a decent shot of keeping his OPS above .720.

[davell]

Yeah, I almost threw Lake out as a 1 for 1 swap, but thought better of it. That said, I kind of suspect Junior gets dealt this offseason.

 

Are we thinking Sweeney enters the year as a starter or at least the strong half of a platoon? I think I am. But we've got 3 lefty hitting OFers, none of whom are everyday players. I can see Schierholtz getting dealt, but don't know what we'll do with Bogusevic? Platoon him with Lake, if he's still here maybe? Or does Junior get a full time gig?

 

I'd kind of like to sign either Corey Hart or Chris Young to use as a platoon partner along with Lake, if he's here. Then get one full time player to pair with the two platoons.

[Guest]

Lake and Maybin aren't mutually exclusive, the entire outfield is in a very fluid state. I personally don't think Lake is a permanent CF, which makes them even further separated.

 

Maybin's value is derived quite a bit from his defense, but he's also had his offense suppressed by parks, and he's now in his prime and has the pedigree to think he can be an asset with the bat. If Maybin being a 2+ win CF is the downside, then I'll sign up for that for 3/20 or even 4/29 with his option, especially if the cost is next to nothing in players.

[HoopsCubs]

Yeah, I almost threw Lake out as a 1 for 1 swap, but thought better of it. That said, I kind of suspect Junior gets dealt this offseason.

 

Are we thinking Sweeney enters the year as a starter or at least the strong half of a platoon? I think I am. But we've got 3 lefty hitting OFers, none of whom are everyday players. I can see Schierholtz getting dealt, but don't know what we'll do with Bogusevic? Platoon him with Lake, if he's still here maybe? Or does Junior get a full time gig?

 

I'd kind of like to sign either Corey Hart or Chris Young to use as a platoon partner along with Lake, if he's here. Then get one full time player to pair with the two platoons.

 

 

Davell: if 2014 is just another year for the kids to get seasoned for the big run starting in 2015, then I think the Cubs should move Schierholtz this offseason. He might net them someone useful 2 years down the line.

[HoopsCubs]

Lake and Maybin aren't mutually exclusive, the entire outfield is in a very fluid state. I personally don't think Lake is a permanent CF, which makes them even further separated.

 

Maybin's value is derived quite a bit from his defense, but he's also had his offense suppressed by parks, and he's now in his prime and has the pedigree to think he can be an asset with the bat. If Maybin being a 2+ win CF is the downside, then I'll sign up for that for 3/20 or even 4/29 with his option, especially if the cost is next to nothing in players.

 

TT: Can't argue with your numbers. Just feel there is a better way to spend $20M. What do they with the rotation will be most intriguing. I think they have convinced themselves that they will have enough hitting in 2015.

[sneakypower]

What do you guys think of Cameron Maybin as a trade target this offseason? He put up 6.5 fWAR between 2011-12, and then missed basically all of 2013 with a knee injury and had wrist surgery in September. He's got an extension that pays him 5/7/8 over the next 3 years plus a 9M option, so it's big enough that the Padres may not want to pay it with their overloaded outfield(Venable, Quentin, Denorfia, Blanks, Decker, Fuentes). I can't seem to find much online about the Padres intentions for that OF, but what do you think is a reasonable deal that lands him?

i thought about this for a while like a month back, but he's probably owed more ($20M) than we're likely willing to pay him and i don't know if i see SD picking up much

 

i always prefer to gamble on upside though, so i'm game

[Guest]

What do you guys think of Cameron Maybin as a trade target this offseason? He put up 6.5 fWAR between 2011-12, and then missed basically all of 2013 with a knee injury and had wrist surgery in September. He's got an extension that pays him 5/7/8 over the next 3 years plus a 9M option, so it's big enough that the Padres may not want to pay it with their overloaded outfield(Venable, Quentin, Denorfia, Blanks, Decker, Fuentes). I can't seem to find much online about the Padres intentions for that OF, but what do you think is a reasonable deal that lands him?

i thought about this for a while like a month back, but he's probably owed more ($20M) than we're likely willing to pay him and i don't know if i see SD picking up much

 

i always prefer to gamble on upside though, so i'm game

 

You think the Cubs would balk at the contract? 2014 is the only season I can see it really being an issue, and if it's that big a worry they can sell off Schierholtz and commit the same amount to the OF as if they hadn't acquired Maybin.

[sneakypower]

i guess that involves speculating as to what available funds the FO has to work with

 

but another way of looking at it, is would you rather give up a decent piece for Maybin and his 3/20 commitments, or take a chance on Chris B. Young for just money?

 

fWAR, last 4 years

 

Young (age 29):

2010 - 4.1

2011 - 4.5

2012 - 2.5 (363 PA)

2013 - 0.5 (375 PA)

 

Maybin (age 26):

2010 - 0.5 (322 PA)

2011 - 4.2

2012 - 2.3

2013 - N/A, inj.

 

sure, you have to like Maybin being nearer to his prime, but FG crowdsource believes Young will get 2Y/$13.6M which seems like it could be a better allocation of resources

 

but what the hell, get both and trade Schierholtz; Sweeney & Bogusevic aren't the worst contingencies

[Guest]

Young isn't a bad target, but the 3.5 year age difference is the kicker for me(plus the likely extra year of team control). I've also never been a huge fan of Young himself, and he doesn't strike me as a guy who will age terribly well, but that's secondary to Maybin being a guy I like as much for his age as his skillset in terms of why I prefer one over the other.

[mul21]

Young isn't a bad target, but the 3.5 year age difference is the kicker for me(plus the likely extra year of team control). I've also never been a huge fan of Young himself, and he doesn't strike me as a guy who will age terribly well, but that's secondary to Maybin being a guy I like as much for his age as his skillset in terms of why I prefer one over the other.

 

I'm always unsure of what to think of guys who play in SD because of that park and all the other NL West parks. How much mental effect is there on their performance due to the sheer size of those stadiums and a change in approach because of it?

[HoopsCubs]

Lake and Maybin aren't mutually exclusive, the entire outfield is in a very fluid state. I personally don't think Lake is a permanent CF, which makes them even further separated.

 

Maybin's value is derived quite a bit from his defense, but he's also had his offense suppressed by parks, and he's now in his prime and has the pedigree to think he can be an asset with the bat. If Maybin being a 2+ win CF is the downside, then I'll sign up for that for 3/20 or even 4/29 with his option, especially if the cost is next to nothing in players.

 

Some additional data I observed on Maybin's home/away splits in 2011 and 2012, his 2 most active seasons courtesy of baseball-reference.com:

 

2011 (average/OBP/SLG/OPS)

 

Home: .231 / .294 / .324 / .618

Away: .294 / .349 / .457 / .806

 

 

2012 (average/OBP/SLG/OPS)

 

Home: .268 / .346 / .389 / .735

Away: .216 / .264 / .308 / .572

 

 

His OPS was 188 points lower at home in 2011, but it was 163 points higher at home in 2012.

 

I still contend he's too inconsistent for a $20M investment.

[Clem Fandango]

If we're targeting someone from San Diego for offense, I'd love for it to be Jedd Gyorko, though they have no real reason to move him.