Hypothetical Castro trades that'll never happen

[Guest]

I think before people make too much out of this, Castro is likely available in the same fashion that Garza was in the summer. I guarantee it will cost 2 top shelf prospects plus a few low level/high ceiling guys. Otherwise, there's no reason that they'd trade a player like that at his age and price. Unless of course the don't plan on contendong for the next 5 years, in which case Samrdjzia wouldn't be off limits.

 

Do you live in Australia?

[Little Slide Rooter]

When black Friday rolls along, you often hear about these insane blockbuster deals like a 52 inch flat screen for $250. In reality, a very small amount of those $250 flat screens are available, and more customers than not are going to visit that store to find that the $250 flat screen is sold out. However, many of them figure that once they're in the store anyway, they'll do some browsing, and the salesmen show them some other bargains that they might not have wanted at first, such as an I Pod dock, some video games, a 24 boxed set, Carlos Marmol, or a lap top. Hopefully in our case, nobody walks home with Starlin Castro, but they do some bargain shopping anyway.

 

Nailed it.

 

You know he was sitting there, thinking he had to somehow comment on this, and when all was said and done that's what he came up with. Even da Bum would be shaking his head.

 

You might not like the way it's written, but what it comes down to is teams will call about Castro and be blown away by the price at which point Theo or Jed could sell them on one or more of 23 other guys.

[Guest]

When black Friday rolls along, you often hear about these insane blockbuster deals like a 52 inch flat screen for $250. In reality, a very small amount of those $250 flat screens are available, and more customers than not are going to visit that store to find that the $250 flat screen is sold out. However, many of them figure that once they're in the store anyway, they'll do some browsing, and the salesmen show them some other bargains that they might not have wanted at first, such as an I Pod dock, some video games, a 24 boxed set, Carlos Marmol, or a lap top. Hopefully in our case, nobody walks home with Starlin Castro, but they do some bargain shopping anyway.

 

Nailed it.

 

You know he was sitting there, thinking he had to somehow comment on this, and when all was said and done that's what he came up with. Even da Bum would be shaking his head.

 

You might not like the way it's written, but what it comes down to is teams will call about Castro and be blown away by the price at which point Theo or Jed could sell them on one or more of 23 other guys.

 

Because that's exactly how trades happen.

 

That's how we ended up signing Rodrigo Lopez, BTW. Because we called about Pujols.

 

 

Also, are the people who show up for the $250 TV only to find out they are sold out also blown away by the price? Or are all the Castros sold out when those guys call?

[SouthSideRyan]

I think before people make too much out of this, Castro is likely available in the same fashion that Garza was in the summer. I guarantee it will cost 2 top shelf prospects plus a few low level/high ceiling guys. Otherwise, there's no reason that they'd trade a player like that at his age and price. Unless of course the don't plan on contendong for the next 5 years, in which case Samrdjzia wouldn't be off limits.

 

Do you live in Australia?

 

I think you're thinking of Truffle.

[Guest]

I think before people make too much out of this, Castro is likely available in the same fashion that Garza was in the summer. I guarantee it will cost 2 top shelf prospects plus a few low level/high ceiling guys. Otherwise, there's no reason that they'd trade a player like that at his age and price. Unless of course the don't plan on contendong for the next 5 years, in which case Samrdjzia wouldn't be off limits.

 

Do you live in Australia?

 

I think you're thinking of Truffle.

 

This [expletive] guy.

[imb]

When black Friday rolls along, you often hear about these insane blockbuster deals like a 52 inch flat screen for $250. In reality, a very small amount of those $250 flat screens are available, and more customers than not are going to visit that store to find that the $250 flat screen is sold out. However, many of them figure that once they're in the store anyway, they'll do some browsing, and the salesmen show them some other bargains that they might not have wanted at first, such as an I Pod dock, some video games, a 24 boxed set, Carlos Marmol, or a lap top. Hopefully in our case, nobody walks home with Starlin Castro, but they do some bargain shopping anyway.

 

for the record, i think this is a fantastic post

[WrigleyField 22]

When black Friday rolls along, you often hear about these insane blockbuster deals like a 52 inch flat screen for $250. In reality, a very small amount of those $250 flat screens are available, and more customers than not are going to visit that store to find that the $250 flat screen is sold out. However, many of them figure that once they're in the store anyway, they'll do some browsing, and the salesmen show them some other bargains that they might not have wanted at first, such as an I Pod dock, some video games, a 24 boxed set, Carlos Marmol, or a lap top. Hopefully in our case, nobody walks home with Starlin Castro, but they do some bargain shopping anyway.

 

for the record, i think this is a fantastic post

pretty good point. Analogy misses a bit for my taste though.

 

 

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[Tryptamine]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

[Fast Freddie Bynum]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

ESPN did their little 10 years draft, drafting a player based on how they will do over the next 10 years. They had 30 experts and 30 fans pick their top 30. Castro went 9th for the experts and didn't get picked by the fans. It was hilarious.

[Guest]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the good people at GRB were not very receptive to my requirement of Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras, and David Freese for Castro.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the good people at GRB were not very receptive to my requirement of Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras, and David Freese for Castro.

 

Pass.

[gocubs2118]

Someone shut Kaplan up.

[pitchcs]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the good people at GRB were not very receptive to my requirement of Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras, and David Freese for Castro.

 

Pass.

 

 

Miller/Carlos Martinez/Taveras. Eh, screw you Cardinals, throw in Wong too.

 

God, trading him to the Cardinals would suck and would never happen.

[RammyFanny]

Theo lays the smack down on this.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7994641/theo-epstein-chicago-cubs-not-considering-trading-starlin-castro

[Little Slide Rooter]

Teheran or Vizcaino, Beachy or Minor, and Heyward for Castro and 2-3 months of Dempster. Raise your hand if you'd say no. Maybe even replace Beachy or Minor with Hanson and Dempster with Garza?

[UMFan83]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

ESPN did their little 10 years draft, drafting a player based on how they will do over the next 10 years. They had 30 experts and 30 fans pick their top 30. Castro went 9th for the experts and didn't get picked by the fans. It was hilarious.

 

Castro probably doesn't look sexy to the common fan. They see the 10 HR and 66 RBI mid to high .700's OPS and supposedly terrible defense and ignore his age, position and hitting ability. Not to mention to expected increase in power.

[Tryptamine]

Teheran or Vizcaino, Beachy or Minor, and Heyward for Castro and 2-3 months of Dempster. Raise your hand if you'd say no. Maybe even replace Beachy or Minor with Hanson and Dempster with Garza?

 

I'll pass on either deal. Teheran's stock is falling. He was pretty bad in his brief MLB stint last year, he was god awful in spring training and he's giving up a hit an inning this year to go along with 7 long balls in 45IP at AAA. His walk rate is also up this year. Isn't Vizcaino hurt? Even if he was healthy, he's a guy who was more than likely going to end up a pen arm. Heyward has been a disaster since his big rookie season. Even when he's not hurt, which isn't often, he's been underwhelming. I like Beachy quite a bit, but he's the only piece in there that excites me at all for a guy like Castro.

[Guest]

Today, ESPN did a "franchise player" draft, where they selected 30 "GMs" to draft a franchise player each. Castro was drafted 9th.

 

Over the next 10 years, Castro is projected to have the 10th best WAR among all players. The nine ahead of him: Longoria, Kemp, Trout, Kershaw, Tulo, Verlander, Harper, Stanton, and McCutchen.

 

If one of those 9 players isn't coming back, I'm not really interested in trading Castro.

 

Source on that? I'm just curious where the info/projection is from.

[ConstableRabbit]

When black Friday rolls along, you often hear about these insane blockbuster deals like a 52 inch flat screen for $250. In reality, a very small amount of those $250 flat screens are available, and more customers than not are going to visit that store to find that the $250 flat screen is sold out. However, many of them figure that once they're in the store anyway, they'll do some browsing, and the salesmen show them some other bargains that they might not have wanted at first, such as an I Pod dock, some video games, a 24 boxed set, Carlos Marmol, or a lap top. Hopefully in our case, nobody walks home with Starlin Castro, but they do some bargain shopping anyway.

"Loss leader" would've been a more efficient post :D

[illiniguy]

Oh god, Evan Longoria. Ok I would trade Starlin straight up for him.

[Guest]

It's really easy to come up with packages for which I'd trade Starlin. None of them are going to ever happen, though.

[bukie]

Today, ESPN did a "franchise player" draft, where they selected 30 "GMs" to draft a franchise player each. Castro was drafted 9th.

 

Over the next 10 years, Castro is projected to have the 10th best WAR among all players. The nine ahead of him: Longoria, Kemp, Trout, Kershaw, Tulo, Verlander, Harper, Stanton, and McCutchen.

 

If one of those 9 players isn't coming back, I'm not really interested in trading Castro.

 

Source on that? I'm just curious where the info/projection is from.

ZiPS projection via an ESPN insider article here

[bukie]

It's really easy to come up with packages for which I'd trade Starlin. None of them are going to ever happen, though.

I'd probably trade Castro for Ryan Zimmerman and Stephen Strasburg.

[pitchcs]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

ESPN did their little 10 years draft, drafting a player based on how they will do over the next 10 years. They had 30 experts and 30 fans pick their top 30. Castro went 9th for the experts and didn't get picked by the fans. It was hilarious.

 

Castro probably doesn't look sexy to the common fan. They see the 10 HR and 66 RBI mid to high .700's OPS and supposedly terrible defense and ignore his age, position and hitting ability. Not to mention to expected increase in power.

 

And he was never in the minors long enough to be a top 5 prospect on lists, etc. therefore limiting his exposure. And all the major league teams he's been on have sucked once again therefore limiting his exposure.

[17 Seconds]

Theo lays the smack down on this.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7994641/theo-epstein-chicago-cubs-not-considering-trading-starlin-castro

 

can we change the thread title?