Cubs Trade For Beleagured Starter Aaron Civale

He's breathing and has an arm. Just the way Jed likes it. 

this is the next guy who will start a game of a DH and then get DFA'd again

He was really really good for us last September in long relief by simply spamming cutters way more than he ever had before or since.  Hopefully it's just that simple to get him back there.

Glancing at Moffett's stat line to write this piece, and literally LOLed at that walk number.

Sounds like he's already pre-injured and almost gives up 2 HRs/9 so he'll fit right in.

11 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

He's breathing and has an arm. Just the way Jed likes it. 

He's breathing, has an arm, and IS CHEAP.  Just the way Jed likes it. 

6 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Glancing at Moffett's stat line to write this piece, and literally LOLed at that walk number.

94 walks in 80 innings if you combine his amateur and pro career. there must be something there if teams are even allowing him to pitch at this point

Just now, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

94 walks in 80 innings if you combine his amateur and pro career. there must be something there if teams are even allowing him to pitch at this point

Yeah, the stuff has to be dynamic if teams are still letting him go all Ricky Vaughn every few nights.

They looking to have him start or for the bullpen,  maybe he'll be ok if it just for the bullpen.

With Taillon back against Detroit,  theyre in no desperate need for a SP now. 

Imanaga,  Boyd, Peterson,  Assad , and Rea are the other SP 

Jed Hoyer is such a bum 

33 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

Jed Hoyer is such a bum 

I get it, but I just don't think much is available right now. Have you looked at the AL? It's a bunch of middling teams all bunched together. Everybody is a "contender" right now.

10 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I get it, but I just don't think much is available right now. Have you looked at the AL? It's a bunch of middling teams all bunched together. Everybody is a "contender" right now.

Yea, hes just trying to get whatever available arms he can grab now to get through July.

getting Taillon back will free up Assad or Rea for the bullpen next week, my guess Pomeranz will definitely and maybe Thielbar could get the boot.

20 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I get it, but I just don't think much is available right now. Have you looked at the AL? It's a bunch of middling teams all bunched together. Everybody is a "contender" right now.

Detmers would be such a great get, and I don't see why this FO can't swing a trade like that after all these years.  When was the last time they made a big trade deadline move as buyers?  Quintana?  We deserve more as fans than one or two of those moves every decade.   

46 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

Detmers would be such a great get, and I don't see why this FO can't swing a trade like that after all these years.  When was the last time they made a big trade deadline move as buyers?  Quintana?  We deserve more as fans than one or two of those moves every decade.   

Guaranteed you complained about the Quintana trade for years.

49 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

Detmers would be such a great get, and I don't see why this FO can't swing a trade like that after all these years.  When was the last time they made a big trade deadline move as buyers?  Quintana?  We deserve more as fans than one or two of those moves every decade.   

Isaac Paredes was a much bigger get than Reid Detmers would be

6 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Isaac Paredes was a much bigger get than Reid Detmers would be

But Detmers would have a bigger impact on a playoff run than Paredes did. 

Wake me up when Jed trades for someone NOT on the scrap heap.

History of serving gopherballs.

3 hours ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

Detmers would be such a great get, and I don't see why this FO can't swing a trade like that after all these years.  When was the last time they made a big trade deadline move as buyers?  Quintana?  We deserve more as fans than one or two of those moves every decade.   

Because if Detmers was available at a remotely reasonable price, roughly a dozen teams would be in on it. He's not exactly a well-kept secret only the Cubs know about, plus Angels ownership is likely dumb enough to think they'll be competitive in a year or two.

It might happen, but let's not pretend he's an easy get.

I love this time of year when nobody of significance has been traded yet and still people want to crucify the GM for sitting on their hands 

8 hours ago, Outshined_One said:

Because if Detmers was available at a remotely reasonable price, roughly a dozen teams would be in on it. He's not exactly a well-kept secret only the Cubs know about, plus Angels ownership is likely dumb enough to think they'll be competitive in a year or two.

It might happen, but let's not pretend he's an easy get.

Exactly. Teams with assets to trade aren't just going to cough them up on the first offer. They want bidding wars since there aren't many teams looking to sell at the moment. 

Two things can be true at once:
1. Aaron Civale is a pretty boring acquisition. He's...whatever. He is familiar to the staff and organization, he's a human with a heartbeat and two arms attached and he probably won't be very impactful.
2. Jed Hoyer isn't a bad VP of Ops for grabbing him on July19th. 

If someone like Reid Detmers was readily available today for a price you'd be okay with paying, he'd have been traded by now. More likely the Angels are holding to a very valuable position as they hold the power; there are very few clear sellers currently and have little reason to lower their price. 

We don't need to throw a fit every time the Cubs acquire someone less than Tarik Skubal or claim Hoyer is just sleepwalking through the deadline. There's 16 days between today and the deadline; strap in because it won't really heat up for two weeks.

12 hours ago, ILMindState said:

Guaranteed you complained about the Quintana trade for years.

I was a huge fan of the rich Harden trade at the time until Josh Donaldson won league MVP. Now I tell everyone I hated the trade the moment it happened. 

I’ll give him a month before he’s DFAd, only to be signed to a second contract 2 days later when Mathew Boyd has his left arm amputated from a staph infection.

3 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

Two things can be true at once:
1. Aaron Civale is a pretty boring acquisition. He's...whatever. He is familiar to the staff and organization, he's a human with a heartbeat and two arms attached and he probably won't be very impactful.
2. Jed Hoyer isn't a bad VP of Ops for grabbing him on July19th. 

If someone like Reid Detmers was readily available today for a price you'd be okay with paying, he'd have been traded by now. More likely the Angels are holding to a very valuable position as they hold the power; there are very few clear sellers currently and have little reason to lower their price. 

We don't need to throw a fit every time the Cubs acquire someone less than Tarik Skubal or claim Hoyer is just sleepwalking through the deadline. There's 16 days between today and the deadline; strap in because it won't really heat up for two weeks.

This is exactly the point. Sure Civale might not be anything. But trading for him does not warrant a response like Jed is a bum. If this is all we get, then I will not be happy. But thrbCubs FO is just trying to plug holes now keeping the Cubs in contention until teams decide if they will be dumping or not. It certainly doesn’t help that almost the entire AL has a chance. Hopefully some drop in the next 10-12 days. Cubs could help that along by winning the rest of this homestand.