2011 College Football Offseason

[SpongeWorthy]

ND fans should be grateful that their rogue outfit isn't getting the death penalty.

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ND fans should be grateful that their rogue outfit isn't getting the death penalty.

 

you're back from dayton already? why the quick trip?

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good lord, at least we're all homers, not just me. "It was a beautiful day" is what people are taking issue with. I'm sure they were just having a normal practice until they killed the dude.

 

have you ever been to south bend in the fall/early winter? it's gray and often windy, rainy, snowy, crappy. that's why Kelly wants to practice outside all the time. any day between October and May that doesn't rain/snow/sleet and also gives you actual, real deal sunlight, is [expletive] gorgeous.

 

they don't call it 'permacloud' for nothing.

 

 

C'mon. It's South Bend, not Siberia. Nobody thinks a day with wind gusts up to 60mph is "beautiful."

 

you're right. siberians can at least buy vokda on sundays.

 

my point is haugh has had it out for ND for seemingly ever. he picked 1-2 sentences that fit his narrative. those aren't the only words Kelly has spoken on the subject and getting hung up on calling a sunny october day in south bend "beautiful" seems pointless and dumb. Was it the greatest choice of words? Maybe not. Out of context, you can certainly cast a poor light on Kelly by quoting them in your article suggesting that ND hasn't taken responsibility.

 

practice had been going on, what, 30-40 minutes when the tragedy happened? it's so far beyond belief that the wind was strong but not remarkably so for a fall day in SB for the time that Kelly was out before the gust knocked over the lift? none of us know exactly what the day was like during that relatively short time frame. Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal until he felt a very strong gust and heard the crash. Seems plausible.

 

All of which is quite the tangent from the larger issue that someone should have better known the safety precautions to take or policies should have been in place to prevent the use of the lifts when the weather makes it dangerous. Kelly's view on whether the day was pleasant or not is so minor in the scheme of things, isn't it?

[imb]

Was it the greatest choice of words? Maybe not.

 

lol give me a break.

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Was it the greatest choice of words? Maybe not.

 

lol give me a break.

 

do you even know the context? me neither.

[imb]

"That day that kid died? Oh yeah, I remember that, beautiful day."

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"not as nice as the day when i heard about that kid that fell of of the hotel balcony on spring break."

[Jon]

A source told the Columbus Dispatch that Tressel asked for and received the same 5 game suspension as the players.

[shnsajax]

A source told the Columbus Dispatch that Tressel asked for and received the same 5 game suspension as the players.

 

Dear NCAA please don't punish me any more, see I am extending my suspension to hopes for your forgiveness.

[E.J.]

Still not enough. I'm excited to see what the NCAA will do to him.

[shnsajax]

Still not enough. I'm excited to see what the NCAA will do to him.

 

Hopefully we will have a ruling on Bruce Pearl pretty soon, and that should be a good indicator as to what they will do with Tressel.

[dew1679666265]

Blaine Sumner, from the perennial powerhouse Colorado School of Mines, completed 52 reps on the bench recently.

 

He can also squat 900+ pounds and is a DT.

[dew1679666265]

Still not enough. I'm excited to see what the NCAA will do to him.

 

Hopefully we will have a ruling on Bruce Pearl pretty soon, and that should be a good indicator as to what they will do with Tressel.

 

Probably won't be anything on Pearl until June or July I'm thinking. Tennessee just got the letter of allegations within the past few weeks and they have 90 days (I believe) to respond to that letter. The NCAA - or someone - will then have to adjust the allegations as much as necessary and make a decision from there.

 

Most opinions I've heard on the subject don't expect anything until well into the summer.

[Careless]

practice had been going on, what, 30-40 minutes when the tragedy happened? it's so far beyond belief that the wind was strong but not remarkably so for a fall day in SB for the time that Kelly was out before the gust knocked over the lift? none of us know exactly what the day was like during that relatively short time frame. Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal until he felt a very strong gust and heard the crash. Seems plausible.

Are you kidding? The weather was the biggest regional news story of the day before the guy died. How ignorant do you think the meteorological community is?

[E.J.]

practice had been going on, what, 30-40 minutes when the tragedy happened? it's so far beyond belief that the wind was strong but not remarkably so for a fall day in SB for the time that Kelly was out before the gust knocked over the lift? none of us know exactly what the day was like during that relatively short time frame. Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal until he felt a very strong gust and heard the crash. Seems plausible.

Are you kidding? The weather was the biggest regional news story of the day before the guy died. How ignorant do you think the meteorological community is?

 

It was a huge story all over the midwest with many coaches contemplating practicing inside. It's laughable to say that Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal.

[snoodmonger]

practice had been going on, what, 30-40 minutes when the tragedy happened? it's so far beyond belief that the wind was strong but not remarkably so for a fall day in SB for the time that Kelly was out before the gust knocked over the lift? none of us know exactly what the day was like during that relatively short time frame. Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal until he felt a very strong gust and heard the crash. Seems plausible.

Are you kidding? The weather was the biggest regional news story of the day before the guy died. How ignorant do you think the meteorological community is?

 

It was a huge story all over the midwest with many coaches contemplating practicing inside. It's laughable to say that Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal.

 

It was a gorgeous day. The sun was shining. The birds were chirping. Semi tractor trailers were being blown across the highway like tumbleweeds.

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practice had been going on, what, 30-40 minutes when the tragedy happened? it's so far beyond belief that the wind was strong but not remarkably so for a fall day in SB for the time that Kelly was out before the gust knocked over the lift? none of us know exactly what the day was like during that relatively short time frame. Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal until he felt a very strong gust and heard the crash. Seems plausible.

Are you kidding? The weather was the biggest regional news story of the day before the guy died. How ignorant do you think the meteorological community is?

 

It was a huge story all over the midwest with many coaches contemplating practicing inside. It's laughable to say that Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal.

 

It was a gorgeous day. The sun was shining. The birds were chirping. Semi tractor trailers were being blown across the highway like tumbleweeds.

 

Kelly practices outside when many other coaches go inside due to weather. It's one of his toughness things. Who knows if it makes any difference with the team, but saying other coaches practiced inside doesn't really distinguish this day from many others.

 

how much time do you suppose the hc of a cfb program sits outside or watches the weather channel during the season?

 

Again, though, what's the point? The school screwed up, they've admitted it. But they're not going to fire Kelly nor should they.

[E.J.]

practice had been going on, what, 30-40 minutes when the tragedy happened? it's so far beyond belief that the wind was strong but not remarkably so for a fall day in SB for the time that Kelly was out before the gust knocked over the lift? none of us know exactly what the day was like during that relatively short time frame. Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal until he felt a very strong gust and heard the crash. Seems plausible.

Are you kidding? The weather was the biggest regional news story of the day before the guy died. How ignorant do you think the meteorological community is?

 

It was a huge story all over the midwest with many coaches contemplating practicing inside. It's laughable to say that Kelly may have thought the weather seemed fairly normal.

 

It was a gorgeous day. The sun was shining. The birds were chirping. Semi tractor trailers were being blown across the highway like tumbleweeds.

 

Kelly practices outside when many other coaches go inside due to weather. It's one of his toughness things. Who knows if it makes any difference with the team, but saying other coaches practiced inside doesn't really distinguish this day from many others.

 

how much time do you suppose the hc of a cfb program sits outside or watches the weather channel during the season?

 

Again, though, what's the point? The school screwed up, they've admitted it. But they're not going to fire Kelly nor should they.

 

It's hilarious watching you try to rationalize this situation. I wonder what you'd be saying if this happened to Michigan and I was the one saying that it was a perfectly nice day outside that day.

[hawkeyecub]

You realize that Tressell and Ferentz (and others I'm sure) both publicly said they practiced inside because they were afraid to put video crew up in the towers right? They would probably like to preach toughness and stay outside for the team to practice in it also, but they weren't completely negligent.

[Jon]

I'm not sure what the point of practicing in that weather would be. It's not a toughness factor. If you can't simulate game conditions with the passing game, it's rather useless. It would be one thing if they were expecting that kind of wind on the following Saturday, but you don't really want QBs trying to complete passes into the wind when you're not going to experience it during the game.

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You realize that Tressell and Ferentz (and others I'm sure) both publicly said they practiced inside because they were afraid to put video crew up in the towers right? They would probably like to preach toughness and stay outside for the team to practice in it also, but they weren't completely negligent.

 

the standard by which all coaches are measured, tressell and ferentz (and I say that as a life long Iowa fan). I'd say Tressell has been significantly more than negligent recently and Ferentz has more felons on his team than all but 1 other team in CFB. Though discussing whether other coaches practiced outside isn't really relevant to anything.

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again, i'll ask: what's the point you're all after? What is it that a public apology, fine, and whatever settlement they reached with the family isn't satisfying for you, the masses with such strong concern for ND and the well being of its student film crew?

 

you don't think ND should have practiced outside? well, they did and they'll continue doing so as long as Kelly thinks the weather won't interfere with practice. they installed a new system to allow them to film practices without students being as high up in the air and without using scissor lifts as often or as high as they were needed before. the fact that other coaches did or didn't practice outside isn't really relevant.

 

they shouldn't have had Sullivan in the scissor lift that day. No one's arguing that. So what's the point?

[E.J.]

We're trying to figure out why you keep saying it was a perfectly normal day outside when it clearly wasn't.

[Guest]

The point is that it's a bit shocking and upsetting that (even without considering the full context) Kelly would try to rationalize the decision by using phrasing like "it was a beautiful day".

[imb]

no one "wants" anything, we're just seeing how far you'll stick your head in the sand