2010-2011 Chicago Bulls Thread

[apete6]

President Barack Obama hyped the Bulls while trying to trash-talk the Lakers during their community service appearance in Washington on Monday, but Kobe Bryant -- a five-time NBA champion -- wasn't about to back down.

 

In referencing the Bulls' 88-84 win over the Lakers last Friday, Obama said, "My Bulls are showing some signs of life," and told Bryant that "Derrick Rose may have your number."

 

"I said, 'If he calls that number, I'll be sure to pick up after the fifth ring,'" Bryant replied.

 

That's a great comeback.

It is. I wonder who wrote it for him.

 

He only connects on that joke in the clutch 6 out of every 24 times...

[UMFan83]

lol thanks Bill Simmons

[BigSlick]

it seems like we have the worst reverse home court advantage ever. i dont know if the reffs do it to make a point or something but we get the least amount of calls at home than any team i've ever seen.

[Cubbies622]

ESPN has posted in their rumors section that the Bulls and Nuggets are discussing the Bulls trading Bogans and Brewer for J.R. Smith. I'd be all for getting rid of Bogans, and although I do like Brewer it would be a great trade for the Bulls.

[Keener98]

JR Smith is a chucker who doesn't know what the word defense even means, why would you want to trade Brewer for him?

[David]

I'd rather do something like Bogans, JJ, and Watson (if that works salary wise)...

[rawaction]

I agree. I would rather not trade Brewer if I'm getting a player with no clue defensively in return. Not that anyone will ever stop Wade, Lebron, Pierce, etc. but JR Smith could give up 50 to anyone on any given night.

[davell]

There's a chance Noah could have some ligament damage in his right hand. If he does, he could miss up to 8 weeks. :banghead:

[UMFan83]

it seems like we have the worst reverse home court advantage ever. i dont know if the reffs do it to make a point or something but we get the least amount of calls at home than any team i've ever seen.

 

If we had the worst reverse home court advantage, wouldnt that mean that we have the best home court advantage? lol

[UMFan83]

JR Smith is a chucker who doesn't know what the word defense even means, why would you want to trade Brewer for him?

 

I hate JR Smith. I am not willing to give up Brewer for him. Bogans? Sure. Bogans, Thomas and a 2nd rounder? Maybe. Bogans and Brewer? No. I like Brewer and what he brings to the team.

[17 Seconds]

noah has been playing with an injured thumb and may have ligament damage

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5922071

 

it's been mentioned in here a couple times recently, but he hasn't been the same recently. i guess now we know why

 

If an examination reveals the need for surgery, he would most likely be out a minimum of eight weeks.

 

you knew something was gonna happen. things are going too well for us right now. one of rose/noah/boozer was gonna go down. it was inevitable

[David]

It's been obvious that he has a hand injury for a while

 

That said, he's been playing with this for a while without having the examination done that would reveal ligament damage? Huh?

[SpongeWorthy]

Smith would murder playing off of Rose.

[rawaction]

Smith would murder playing off of Rose.

 

I can't see him doing any better than he's done playing off of Melo and alongside Billups, in an offense that allows him to shoot nearly 500 3s a year.

[SpongeWorthy]

A high volume, high percentage three point shooter at SG would help a lot. He is a chucker and a head case which is why someone with his talent is even available at such a low reported price in returning players.

 

Plus he's a 6 million dollar expiring contract.

[UMFan83]

A high volume, high percentage three point shooter at SG would help a lot. He is a chucker and a head case which is why someone with his talent is even available at such a low reported price in returning players.

 

Plus he's a 6 million dollar expiring contract.

 

I dunno I guess I'd just prefer a defensive oriented guard at the 2 with the starting lineup we have. We already have supposedly below average defenders in Rose and Boozer in the lineup, and as awesome as Noah is he struggles in certain situations against bigger matchups. Adding a 3rd bad defender could really cause the starting lineup to struggle.

 

I mean I guess he would be ok. He only shot 33% from 3 last year though, and 6 attempts per game. Is that even beneficial? I am asking seriously because I didn't think 33% was all that good.

[UMFan83]

BTW it's crazy how similar Bogan's numbers are to last year's with SA.

 

19:18 minutes vs. 19:41 minutes

4.2 PPG vs. 4.4 PPG

0.1 BPG vs. 0.2 BPG

0.7 SPG vs. 0.6 SPG

0.7 TO/G vs. 0.7 TO/G

1.4 APG vs. 1.2 APG

2.2 RPG vs. 2.2 RPG

 

His shooting percentages are much better last year though on less shots.

[Flames24Rulz]

BTW it's crazy how similar Bogan's numbers are to last year's with SA.

 

19:18 minutes vs. 19:41 minutes

4.2 PPG vs. 4.4 PPG

0.1 BPG vs. 0.2 BPG

0.7 SPG vs. 0.6 SPG

0.7 TO/G vs. 0.7 TO/G

1.4 APG vs. 1.2 APG

2.2 RPG vs. 2.2 RPG

 

His shooting percentages are much better last year though on less shots.

 

Rose clearly is about the same as Tony Parker.

[rawaction]

A high volume, high percentage three point shooter at SG would help a lot. He is a chucker and a head case which is why someone with his talent is even available at such a low reported price in returning players.

 

Plus he's a 6 million dollar expiring contract.

 

I dunno I guess I'd just prefer a defensive oriented guard at the 2 with the starting lineup we have. We already have supposedly below average defenders in Rose and Boozer in the lineup, and as awesome as Noah is he struggles in certain situations against bigger matchups. Adding a 3rd bad defender could really cause the starting lineup to struggle.

 

I mean I guess he would be ok. He only shot 33% from 3 last year though, and 6 attempts per game. Is that even beneficial? I am asking seriously because I didn't think 33% was all that good.

 

I don't prefer a defensive oriented SG. I would like a guy that can shoot the 3 like JR, but can also at least serviceable on defense. Since Smith can't play D at all, I would like to keep Brewer around and play the matchups. Sometimes you use JR for offense, sometimes you use Brewer for D. Sometimes you use both when Deng disappears.

 

I will say though, that the 33% last year (closer to 34% actually) was an anomaly for JR. He's 37% for his career, and if you include this year so far he's had 4 of his last 5 years over 39%, which is wonderful.

 

My problem is JR doesn't have an off button. You're as likely to get a 1-8 from 3 from him as you are a 5 for 7. He shot 40% in 08-09, yet he still had 15 games where he shot under 35% with at least 6 shots. In 2 playoff losses to the Lakers that year he went a combined 3-20 from 3.

[SpongeWorthy]

A high volume, high percentage three point shooter at SG would help a lot. He is a chucker and a head case which is why someone with his talent is even available at such a low reported price in returning players.

 

Plus he's a 6 million dollar expiring contract.

 

I dunno I guess I'd just prefer a defensive oriented guard at the 2 with the starting lineup we have. We already have supposedly below average defenders in Rose and Boozer in the lineup, and as awesome as Noah is he struggles in certain situations against bigger matchups. Adding a 3rd bad defender could really cause the starting lineup to struggle.

 

I mean I guess he would be ok. He only shot 33% from 3 last year though, and 6 attempts per game. Is that even beneficial? I am asking seriously because I didn't think 33% was all that good.

 

We're 4th in defensive rating and 19th in offensive rating. Even with Korver, Rose, and Deng all hitting 3s, we could use some more shooting. I don't think giving Bogans and Brewer's minutes to JR Smith is going to cause our D to plummet but the shooting immediately improves.

 

Bogans is a decent defender (not great by any means), has terrible foot speed so he doesn't help in an up tempo game, and can't do anything offensively. So maybe you get him to guard pretty well but the other guy has to expend absolutely no energy at all in defending him.

[SpongeWorthy]

A high volume, high percentage three point shooter at SG would help a lot. He is a chucker and a head case which is why someone with his talent is even available at such a low reported price in returning players.

 

Plus he's a 6 million dollar expiring contract.

 

I dunno I guess I'd just prefer a defensive oriented guard at the 2 with the starting lineup we have. We already have supposedly below average defenders in Rose and Boozer in the lineup, and as awesome as Noah is he struggles in certain situations against bigger matchups. Adding a 3rd bad defender could really cause the starting lineup to struggle.

 

I mean I guess he would be ok. He only shot 33% from 3 last year though, and 6 attempts per game. Is that even beneficial? I am asking seriously because I didn't think 33% was all that good.

 

I don't prefer a defensive oriented SG. I would like a guy that can shoot the 3 like JR, but can also at least serviceable on defense. Since Smith can't play D at all, I would like to keep Brewer around and play the matchups. Sometimes you use JR for offense, sometimes you use Brewer for D. Sometimes you use both when Deng disappears.

 

I will say though, that the 33% last year (closer to 34% actually) was an anomaly for JR. He's 37% for his career, and if you include this year so far he's had 4 of his last 5 years over 39%, which is wonderful.

 

My problem is JR doesn't have an off button. You're as likely to get a 1-8 from 3 from him as you are a 5 for 7. He shot 40% in 08-09, yet he still had 15 games where he shot under 35% with at least 6 shots. In 2 playoff losses to the Lakers that year he went a combined 3-20 from 3.

 

Yeah, he has his flaws. That's why you're looking at a rumored swap centered around Brewer/Bogans types. The defense would suffer but you're still putting Deng on the best offensive wing player anyway.

 

I do think Rose would be able to generate cleaner looks for Smith than Billups does. Billups doesn't collapse defenses like Rose does and while Melo can, he's not a PG. Imagine all the WIDE open corner 3s going from Bogans to Smith.

[rawaction]

Eh, now that I think about it. The Bulls aren't going to do much better than JR Smith. This is probably a move they have to make, defense be damned. It's going to have to be a player making 6Mil or less. Smith is probably the best on the list (I thought OJ Mayo was better, but he kinda sucks).

[SouthSideRyan]

it seems like we have the worst reverse home court advantage ever. i dont know if the reffs do it to make a point or something but we get the least amount of calls at home than any team i've ever seen.

 

Your home/road records are a similar split to the rest of the NBA

[SouthSideRyan]

A high volume, high percentage three point shooter at SG would help a lot. He is a chucker and a head case which is why someone with his talent is even available at such a low reported price in returning players.

 

Plus he's a 6 million dollar expiring contract.

 

I dunno I guess I'd just prefer a defensive oriented guard at the 2 with the starting lineup we have. We already have supposedly below average defenders in Rose and Boozer in the lineup, and as awesome as Noah is he struggles in certain situations against bigger matchups. Adding a 3rd bad defender could really cause the starting lineup to struggle.

 

I mean I guess he would be ok. He only shot 33% from 3 last year though, and 6 attempts per game. Is that even beneficial? I am asking seriously because I didn't think 33% was all that good.

 

We're 4th in defensive rating and 19th in offensive rating. Even with Korver, Rose, and Deng all hitting 3s, we could use some more shooting. I don't think giving Bogans and Brewer's minutes to JR Smith is going to cause our D to plummet but the shooting immediately improves.

 

Bogans is a decent defender (not great by any means), has terrible foot speed so he doesn't help in an up tempo game, and can't do anything offensively. So maybe you get him to guard pretty well but the other guy has to expend absolutely no energy at all in defending him.

 

You're 19th in offensive rating with little impact from your 2nd best offensive player. I think Brewer alone is worth more to the Bulls than Smith. (Not like adding Bogans to the trade does anything one way or another, the guy's damn near worthless.)

 

Brewer was recovering from injury to begin the year, and has improved with health. Do you really want Rose chasing one of the opponent's better guards all around the court and then coming back and running the show on offense? Kid's gonna be dead by the playoffs.

[bukie]

While I think the Bulls' most glaring need is a 2-guard who can shoot 3's reliably while still providing a hint of defensive ability, the only way they make a move is if they trade Brewer, or somebody really wants Deng (who, imo, is far more valuable playing for the Bulls than the return he'd likely get from another team).

 

If only Orlando hadn't matched on Redick.