Bears game 6: Sunday Oct. 17 vs SEA on FOX

[Mark Priors Calves]

Terribly disappointing to see Williams at guard. I wonder if this is a way to ease him back in from the injury or this is going to be for the long term.

[jersey cubs fan]

Terribly disappointing to see Williams at guard. I wonder if this is a way to ease him back in from the injury or this is going to be for the long term.

 

I guess that's possible but I'm not sure what benefit there would be. If he's got a sore hammy, he can either play or not. Obviously there's a difference stepping back as a LT pass blocking, but you're still relying heavily on your legs.

[Banedon]

It could also be that Garza's been battling injury, and they feel better about Williams at guard than Omiyale, who has played a lot better at LT than he ever did at guard. Maybe once you get Garza healthy, you bench Omiyale, and move Williams back to LT?

[jersey cubs fan]

It could also be that Garza's been battling injury, and they feel better about Williams at guard than Omiyale, who has played a lot better at LT than he ever did at guard. Maybe once you get Garza healthy, you bench Omiyale, and move Williams back to LT?

 

Whatever it is, I really hope he has a future at LT.

[Soul]

It could also be that Garza's been battling injury, and they feel better about Williams at guard than Omiyale, who has played a lot better at LT than he ever did at guard. Maybe once you get Garza healthy, you bench Omiyale, and move Williams back to LT?

 

Whatever it is, I really hope he has a future at LT.

 

I agree with you that it's a bad sign in terms of his future as LT, but I'd like to see them salvage him as an NFL player.

 

I also like the idea of possibly easing him back in after the injury, maybe move him back to LT later on. Although -- I don't know if that's part of the plan or not.

 

I'd mostly just like to see him succeed at something on this football team since we spent a high pick on him. G is generally considered a less demanding position, so maybe he can stick there.

 

Yeah -- we'll need to spend more on LT now, which sucks.

[rawaction]

Williams did play some LG at Vandy. Started 9 games there as a Sophomore (was Cutler at QB then?).

 

My biggest issue is the Bears talked all this BS about needing the same 5 guys out there in order to get better. I understand injuries happened, but the Bears have started 8 different guys on the line. Webb and Williams were brought in (and both played left and right side) in the middle of games when other people were struggling.

 

My guess is this is a "best 5 linemen" on the field move. And we already know Omiyale can't play OG.

[dew1679666265]

Williams did play some LG at Vandy. Started 9 games there as a Sophomore (was Cutler at QB then?).

 

Cutler was a senior that year (2005). That was also the year Vandy beat Tennessee and was easily one of their best teams in recent memory.

[jersey cubs fan]

My biggest issue is the Bears talked all this BS about needing the same 5 guys out there in order to get better.

 

I think that was a bunch of talk anyway. It's ideal to have the same 5 every game, assuming they are all good. But it's not necessary and probably isn't all that common.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Garza is undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery

[Banedon]

Garza is undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery

 

Yep...which explains the Williams move.

[rawaction]

Garza is undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery

 

Yep...which explains the Williams move.

 

Some ways yes. In other ways, they still moved the supposed franchise LT to LG, and he's almost halfway thru his 3rd year with 5 full games at his drafted position.

[jersey cubs fan]

Garza is undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery

 

Yep...which explains the Williams move.

 

Some ways yes. In other ways, they still moved the supposed franchise LT to LG, and he's almost halfway thru his 3rd year with 5 full games at his drafted position.

 

Yeah, Williams isn't the obvious choice to move to guard. There are other guys whose specific role is to fill into guard positions. It's still odd to me that they would move the supposed franchise LT to guard for any reason.

[minnesotacubsfan]

yowza

 

Isn't this how the Raiders ended up getting something out of Robert Gallery?

 

yes, but its still completely stupid.

[BigSlick]

the bears o-line situation is a complete comedy of errors. no where else in the league would Garza have a starting job locked down solid for like 6 years now, but maybe we've finally ousted him from his comfy spot by putting our supposed franchise LT at guard =D>

 

honestly if this makeshift new-starter-every-week o-line can just buy my [expletive] team 3-4 seconds of protection we'll be fine, if Cutler doesn't start playing deers-in-the-headlights like he did all concussed in New York

 

also don't run sweeps or even attempt to run the ball in short yardage situations

[David]

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[Flames24Rulz]

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The best part about that is how nobody stops to see what happened to him as he's on the ground. If that really happened yesterday, that's amazing.

[Banedon]

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The best part about that is how nobody stops to see what happened to him as he's on the ground. If that really happened yesterday, that's amazing.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Brett-Favre-suffers-a-very-unfortunate-mishap-in?urn=nfl-276794

[jersey cubs fan]

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The best part about that is how nobody stops to see what happened to him as he's on the ground. If that really happened yesterday, that's amazing.

 

You can see what look to me like coaches laughing at him. I'm pretty sure they knew what happened.

[Soul]

yowza

 

Isn't this how the Raiders ended up getting something out of Robert Gallery?

 

yes, but its still completely stupid.

 

Why? At least the Raiders salvaged something from Gallery. It was either that or run him out of town and eat the pick + salary.

[Banedon]

Bears offensive line coach Mike Tice said Wednesday that in his opinion, Williams is a great knee bender who is a better run blocker now than a pass protector.

 

Tice said it's about getting the best five players on the field with the least amount of turmoil. Putting Williams back at left tackle against the Seahawks likely would entail moving Omiyale to right tackle, so the Bears would have three players displaced from the last game as opposed to one.

 

"That's the age-old question," offensive coordinator Mike Martz said. "Do you … affect one position or … two? Coaches are always reluctant to do that. We know he can play anywhere. We like him and we know how effective he is. We're just happy he's healthy and (able) to help us right now."

[jersey cubs fan]

Dan Pompei compared writing off Chris Williams right now would be akin to writing off Peyton Manning after his 7th game in his rookie season. That is a terrible comparison on many levels. This isn't baseball where guys come up to the majors at various ages and have to be given some leeway at the start. Both of these players came out after finishing college. Only one played right away and started to improve from the start. Williams has been hurt on multiple occasions, has been unable to play the position he was drafted to play at an acceptable level for a variety of reasons and there is no other way to describe the first 2.5 seasons of his career as a disappointment. He doesn't get credit for not playing.

 

He also tries to sell the coaches' story that the reason to play him at guard is to provide the least amount of disruption to the line as possible. That's a bunch of bunk. Moving your starting left tackle back to left tackle isn't disruptive. The line has hardly been humming along as is. Changes have been made mid-game in every game. This isn't about stability and it never was. It seems very obvious the coaches are moving Williams to guard because they are not comfortable with his play at tackle, and that is, without question, very disappointing.

[Soul]

I guess it comes down to whether or not we agree with the coaches' assessment of Williams. If I agree he's not going to work out at LT, then I'd want to salvage him in some way and if moving him to OG will do that, then I'm for it.

 

Right now I'm thinking that's probably where Williams' career is heading. So I think the move is a good idea.

 

If he was going to work out at LT, I believe we would have seen more by now.

[jersey cubs fan]

I guess it comes down to whether or not we agree with the coaches' assessment of Williams. If I agree he's not going to work out at LT, then I'd want to salvage him in some way and if moving him to OG will do that, then I'm for it.

 

Right now I'm thinking that's probably where Williams' career is heading. So I think the move is a good idea.

 

If he was going to work out at LT, I believe we would have seen more by now.

 

I'm not really talking about whether I agree with the assessment. If they feel they can only salvage his career by moving him to guard, then by all means do it. The point is that is disappointing regardless. Also, the story about not disrupting the line by moving him back to tackle does not hold up to any analysis. You would not be breaking up a steady line, you'd be moving a guy back to where he was supposed to play in the first place. And if there is any thought of moving him back to LT eventually then you are just pre-planning future "disruption".

[Banedon]

I guess it comes down to whether or not we agree with the coaches' assessment of Williams. If I agree he's not going to work out at LT, then I'd want to salvage him in some way and if moving him to OG will do that, then I'm for it.

 

Right now I'm thinking that's probably where Williams' career is heading. So I think the move is a good idea.

 

If he was going to work out at LT, I believe we would have seen more by now.

 

I'm not really talking about whether I agree with the assessment. If they feel they can only salvage his career by moving him to guard, then by all means do it. The point is that is disappointing regardless. Also, the story about not disrupting the line by moving him back to tackle does not hold up to any analysis. You would not be breaking up a steady line, you'd be moving a guy back to where he was supposed to play in the first place. And if there is any thought of moving him back to LT eventually then you are just pre-planning future "disruption".

 

Yeah...if you believe Chris Williams is a better LT than Omiyale, I think you have to do it. Clearly, they don't believe that at this point.

[Soul]

I guess it comes down to whether or not we agree with the coaches' assessment of Williams. If I agree he's not going to work out at LT, then I'd want to salvage him in some way and if moving him to OG will do that, then I'm for it.

 

Right now I'm thinking that's probably where Williams' career is heading. So I think the move is a good idea.

 

If he was going to work out at LT, I believe we would have seen more by now.

 

I'm not really talking about whether I agree with the assessment. If they feel they can only salvage his career by moving him to guard, then by all means do it. The point is that is disappointing regardless. Also, the story about not disrupting the line by moving him back to tackle does not hold up to any analysis. You would not be breaking up a steady line, you'd be moving a guy back to where he was supposed to play in the first place. And if there is any thought of moving him back to LT eventually then you are just pre-planning future "disruption".

 

Yeah...if you believe Chris Williams is a better LT than Omiyale, I think you have to do it. Clearly, they don't believe that at this point.

 

It's disappointing, but I'm not going to dwell on it. The line sucks anyway, it's all smoke & mirrors and I expected it to be that way since the Spring.

 

I've accepted that they aren't solving the OLine until Angelo is gone. He'll never pull that area of the team together. He thoroughly sucks at it and he's not going to suddenly get better.