08/20 CUBS (Gorzelanny) @ Los Angeles (Weaver) 9:10 CDT, WGN

[Fred Hornkohl]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/mlb/452733.jpg Tom Gorzelanny (5-2) ERA = 5.24, WHIP = 1.16

 

 

vs.

 

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/mlb/213711.jpg Jeff Weaver (5-4) ERA = 3.77, WHIP = 1.44

 

 

 

This winning thing never gets old !!!!

 

 

Go CUBS !!

 

 

 

Kudo to AramisFan for the great recaps !!!!

[Little Slide Rooter]

The Dodgers have been very beatable as of late. Their once 300 game divison lead has been whittled down to 3.5 by Jason Marquis and the Rockies. Maybe Im juts being over optimistic, but I think we can take 3 from these guys. At least a 2-2 split. Unfortunately, I cant see the Padres giving the Cards any trouble, so were playing to tread water here.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Is it me, or does a 5.24 ERA with a 1.16 WHIP look like a strange stat line? Looks like he doesnt let a lot of guys on base, but the ones that get one tend to score more often than not.

[J.R.]

Here's to seeing the Cincinnati Gorzelanny instead of the Denver Gorzelanny.

 

I'm not sure what will get me first - the standings or this run of five straight late night games. I'm getting too old for this west coast [expletive].

[Prizefight]

Here's to seeing the Cincinnati Gorzelanny instead of the Denver Gorzelanny.

 

I'm not sure what will get me first - the standings or this run of five straight late night games. I'm getting too old for this west coast [expletive].

 

Ditto. I hope Gorz turns out to be more than just a bum slayer, but I don't have my hopes up.

[gflore34]

The Dodgers have been very beatable as of late. Their once 300 game divison lead has been whittled down to 3.5 by Jason Marquis and the Rockies. Maybe Im juts being over optimistic, but I think we can take 3 from these guys. At least a 2-2 split. Unfortunately, I cant see the Padres giving the Cards any trouble, so were playing to tread water here.

 

Marquis, I hope the Rockies aren't foolish to count on him in playoffs.

[Schwarber Fan]

Kudo to AramisFan for the great recaps !!!!

 

Thanks Fred!

 

Also, if Gorz has a terrible start, I could see him being pulled from the rotation with Z on his way back.

 

Only 2 more late games...

[Little Slide Rooter]

Kudo to AramisFan for the great recaps !!!!

 

Thanks Fred!

 

Also, if Gorz has a terrible start, I could see him being pulled from the rotation with Z on his way back.

 

Only 2 more late games...

 

I cant see Gorz staying in the rotation even if he has a good start unless someone else ends up on the DL which really wouldnt shock me. Wells has earned his keep, and unless they decide to go with a 6 man rotation, Gorz is the odd man out.

[RedFlash]

The Dodgers have been very beatable as of late. Their once 300 game divison lead has been whittled down to 3.5 by Jason Marquis and the Rockies. Maybe Im juts being over optimistic, but I think we can take 3 from these guys. At least a 2-2 split. Unfortunately, I cant see the Padres giving the Cards any trouble, so were playing to tread water here.

 

That kinda happens when you go 7-11 in August to date, like the Dodgers (Rockies are 11-6 in August). And I agree with you, when looking at the posible pitching matchups, the Cubs SHOULD win 3 of 4 (Weaver/Gorzy/, Wolf/Wells/, Haeger/Lilly, Billingsley/Dempster), plus if you pitch carefully around the ONLY three legit hitters in that lineup (ManRam/Kemp/Either, the Dodger's lineup isn't that impressive. With that said, I would be estatic if the Cubs could managed to get a split.

[Prizefight]

That kinda happens when you go 7-11 in August to date, like the Dodgers (Rockies are 11-6 in August). And I agree with you, when looking at the posible pitching matchups, the Cubs SHOULD win 3 of 4 (Weaver/Gorzy/, Wolf/Wells/, Haeger/Lilly, Billingsley/Dempster), plus if you pitch carefully around the ONLY three legit hitters in that lineup (ManRam/Kemp/Either, the Dodger's lineup isn't that impressive. With that said, I would be estatic if the Cubs could managed to get a split.

 

 

I think it's a little ambitious saying we've got the edge in 3 of those matchups...they are even in my eyes

[dew1679666265]

That kinda happens when you go 7-11 in August to date, like the Dodgers (Rockies are 11-6 in August). And I agree with you, when looking at the posible pitching matchups, the Cubs SHOULD win 3 of 4 (Weaver/Gorzy/, Wolf/Wells/, Haeger/Lilly, Billingsley/Dempster), plus if you pitch carefully around the ONLY three legit hitters in that lineup (ManRam/Kemp/Either, the Dodger's lineup isn't that impressive. With that said, I would be estatic if the Cubs could managed to get a split.

 

 

I think it's a little ambitious saying we've got the edge in 3 of those matchups...they are even in my eyes

 

Weaver: 5.56 ERA/1.44 WHIP/47:27 K:BB

Gorz: 5.24 ERA/1.16 WHIP/22:8 K:BB

 

Wolf: 3.43 ERA/1.14 WHIP/123:43 K:BB

Wells: 3.01 ERA/1.19 WHIP/71:27 K:BB

 

Haeger: 3.86 ERA/0.71 WHIP/2:0 K:BB (one start, 7 IP) - career minors: 3.87/1.41/673:429

Lilly: 3.42 ERA/1.14 WHIP/111:27 K:BB

 

Billingsley: 3.70 ERA/1.24 WHIP/144:66 K:BB

Dempster: 4.28 ERA/1.39 WHIP/117:53 K:BB

 

I'd give the Cubs an advantage in games 1 and 3 (Gorz and Lilly) and the Dodgers an advantage in game 4 (Billingsley). Game 2 (Wolf/Wells) is tough to call - I hadn't realized Wolf had been that good this year.

[Prizefight]

That kinda happens when you go 7-11 in August to date, like the Dodgers (Rockies are 11-6 in August). And I agree with you, when looking at the posible pitching matchups, the Cubs SHOULD win 3 of 4 (Weaver/Gorzy/, Wolf/Wells/, Haeger/Lilly, Billingsley/Dempster), plus if you pitch carefully around the ONLY three legit hitters in that lineup (ManRam/Kemp/Either, the Dodger's lineup isn't that impressive. With that said, I would be estatic if the Cubs could managed to get a split.

 

 

I think it's a little ambitious saying we've got the edge in 3 of those matchups...they are even in my eyes

 

Weaver: 5.56 ERA/1.44 WHIP/47:27 K:BB

Gorz: 5.24 ERA/1.16 WHIP/22:8 K:BB

 

Wolf: 3.43 ERA/1.14 WHIP/123:43 K:BB

Wells: 3.01 ERA/1.19 WHIP/71:27 K:BB

 

Haeger: 3.86 ERA/0.71 WHIP/2:0 K:BB (one start, 7 IP) - career minors: 3.87/1.41/673:429

Lilly: 3.42 ERA/1.14 WHIP/111:27 K:BB

 

Billingsley: 3.70 ERA/1.24 WHIP/144:66 K:BB

Dempster: 4.28 ERA/1.39 WHIP/117:53 K:BB

 

I'd give the Cubs an advantage in games 1 and 3 (Gorz and Lilly) and the Dodgers an advantage in game 4 (Billingsley). Game 2 (Wolf/Wells) is tough to call - I hadn't realized Wolf had been that good this year.

 

Thanks for doing the research :D Red's point is still valid that it is very feasible to win 3 out of 4 here. But, the whole Cobs thing...

 

:Insert Broom Graphic Here:

[Terp]

same as yesterday:

 

Theriot

Bradley

Lee

Ramirez

Fukudome

Soriano

Baker

Hill

Gorzelanny

[genbar]

Win plz

[SouthSideRyan]

same as yesterday:

 

Theriot

Bradley

Lee

Ramirez

Fukudome

Soriano

Baker

Hill

Gorzelanny

 

This Koyie Hill [expletive] is starting to piss me off.

[Guest]

Big Z rehabbing in Peoria: 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K, 3-2 GO-FO, 46-33 pitches-strikes.

 

Geovany Soto better be in the starting lineup tomorrow and Saturday while I'm at the games.

[illiniguy]

Why are we playing Koyie Hill on the regular?

[Magdal]

That kinda happens when you go 7-11 in August to date, like the Dodgers (Rockies are 11-6 in August). And I agree with you, when looking at the posible pitching matchups, the Cubs SHOULD win 3 of 4 (Weaver/Gorzy/, Wolf/Wells/, Haeger/Lilly, Billingsley/Dempster), plus if you pitch carefully around the ONLY three legit hitters in that lineup (ManRam/Kemp/Either, the Dodger's lineup isn't that impressive. With that said, I would be estatic if the Cubs could managed to get a split.

 

 

I think it's a little ambitious saying we've got the edge in 3 of those matchups...they are even in my eyes

 

Weaver: 5.56 ERA/1.44 WHIP/47:27 K:BB

Gorz: 5.24 ERA/1.16 WHIP/22:8 K:BB

 

Wolf: 3.43 ERA/1.14 WHIP/123:43 K:BB

Wells: 3.01 ERA/1.19 WHIP/71:27 K:BB

 

Haeger: 3.86 ERA/0.71 WHIP/2:0 K:BB (one start, 7 IP) - career minors: 3.87/1.41/673:429

Lilly: 3.42 ERA/1.14 WHIP/111:27 K:BB

 

Billingsley: 3.70 ERA/1.24 WHIP/144:66 K:BB

Dempster: 4.28 ERA/1.39 WHIP/117:53 K:BB

 

I'd give the Cubs an advantage in games 1 and 3 (Gorz and Lilly) and the Dodgers an advantage in game 4 (Billingsley). Game 2 (Wolf/Wells) is tough to call - I hadn't realized Wolf had been that good this year.

 

Thanks for doing the research :D Red's point is still valid that it is very feasible to win 3 out of 4 here. But, the whole Cobs thing...

 

:Insert Broom Graphic Here:

Totally agree...LA is reeling, lost that big lead and Manny is swinging at balls like mad. 3 out of 4 is likely.

 

The Cards are already getting complacent. Put in a real bad lineup card 2 nites ago and lost, putting Ankiel in tonite and benching Ludwick. Of course, they ARE playing the Pads. But again, Holliday has zoomed back to Earth....like 1 for 11 w/1rbi. Pujols has been hacking, scoring more runs on steals than homers.

 

Win this opener and LA will funk even deeper...lose it and I don't know!

[gflore34]

That kinda happens when you go 7-11 in August to date, like the Dodgers (Rockies are 11-6 in August). And I agree with you, when looking at the posible pitching matchups, the Cubs SHOULD win 3 of 4 (Weaver/Gorzy/, Wolf/Wells/, Haeger/Lilly, Billingsley/Dempster), plus if you pitch carefully around the ONLY three legit hitters in that lineup (ManRam/Kemp/Either, the Dodger's lineup isn't that impressive. With that said, I would be estatic if the Cubs could managed to get a split.

 

 

I think it's a little ambitious saying we've got the edge in 3 of those matchups...they are even in my eyes

 

Weaver: 5.56 ERA/1.44 WHIP/47:27 K:BB

Gorz: 5.24 ERA/1.16 WHIP/22:8 K:BB

 

Wolf: 3.43 ERA/1.14 WHIP/123:43 K:BB

Wells: 3.01 ERA/1.19 WHIP/71:27 K:BB

 

Haeger: 3.86 ERA/0.71 WHIP/2:0 K:BB (one start, 7 IP) - career minors: 3.87/1.41/673:429

Lilly: 3.42 ERA/1.14 WHIP/111:27 K:BB

 

Billingsley: 3.70 ERA/1.24 WHIP/144:66 K:BB

Dempster: 4.28 ERA/1.39 WHIP/117:53 K:BB

 

I'd give the Cubs an advantage in games 1 and 3 (Gorz and Lilly) and the Dodgers an advantage in game 4 (Billingsley). Game 2 (Wolf/Wells) is tough to call - I hadn't realized Wolf had been that good this year.

 

Thanks for doing the research :D Red's point is still valid that it is very feasible to win 3 out of 4 here. But, the whole Cobs thing...

 

:Insert Broom Graphic Here:

Totally agree...LA is reeling, lost that big lead and Manny is swinging at balls like mad. 3 out of 4 is likely.

 

The Cards are already getting complacent. Put in a real bad lineup card 2 nites ago and lost, putting Ankiel in tonite and benching Ludwick. Of course, they ARE playing the Pads. But again, Holliday has zoomed back to Earth....like 1 for 11 w/1rbi. Pujols has been hacking, scoring more runs on steals than homers.

 

Win this opener and LA will funk even deeper...lose it and I don't know!

 

Tonight' the key Cubs beat LA and they got a real good chance to take at least 1 of the remaining 3 for a split. Got to keep the struggling team from getting up off the ground however, the Cubs have shown a real knack for letting struggling teams wake up.

[hardcorecubfan]

Let's see the cubs or Seabiscuit on TNT???? Well I see it on later so I'll settle for my Cubbies. don't let me down

[Prizefight]

LET'S DO THIS CUBS!!!!!!!

[Garwilly]

Gametime attendance 10,000

 

LA sucks

[Andy]

Looks like a WTP kind of night.

[Prizefight]

Lou: "It's these GD big ballparks. We don't have the team built for it...prickly pear margarita..grumble grumble"

 

 

Theriot first pitch ground out, Bradley and Lee both fly out to the warning track.

[Sammys Boombox]

What a dead thread. Going with the late-arriving LA tradition.