Re: College Football - Week of 11/29

[RedFlash]

I'm ok with this move. I wanted Mike Leach, but Kiffin is intriguing because of his upside. Apparently, he's bringing Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron (for recruiting) along with him.

 

No offense dew, but Leach would have been horrible for Tennessee. Tennessee doesn't have the talent and a yearly basis to run Leach's type offense and the rumor is Leach isn't a strong recruiter. Leach, imo, would have been run out of the SEC in less then 4 years.

 

The only reason I think it's realistic that Monte would follow Lane is because the dad wants to see the son succeed - and what better way than having a great D-coordinator from day 1? I agree that he's the least likely piece of the coaching staff to follow, though.

 

I can understand that reasoning, but the word around the grapevine is that Monte is likely to stay with Tampa Bay. Would it surprise me if Monte does head to Tennessee with his son? No, but at this point he is more likely to stay with TB then go to Tennessee.

 

And even if these reports are true that the job has been offered, you're right that an official announcement won't come until after Saturday. Monday's the earliest I think anything would come out officially.

 

Personally I think it would be stupid to wait till Monday to announce Kiffin as HC as that week should be dedicated to the UA/Fla SECCG. If I had my way Tennessee would have to wait till AFTER the SECCG before they could announce the decision. Barring that, having them announced on Saturday is prolly in the best interests of both the school and the conference.

 

Definitely a big risk. I wanted Mike Leach, no doubt about that, but Kiffin is an interesting hire. He's young, so he could be a longterm solution. But he's inexperienced, so he could be more hype than substance.

 

I actually paralleled the Kiffin signing to that of Alabama signing Mike Shula. The difference: Kiffin has slightly more experience then Shula. Otherwise this will be a tough sign given the lack of success Kiffin has had as a HC and about to take a job in arguably the toughest conference in America. So this is a tremendous risk. If he doesn't work it then he set the school/football program back four years.

 

I wouldn't hold much against him in Oakland. That was a situation where Al Davis was going to fire him, it was just a matter of when. Kiffin was in a no-win situation nearly from the time he took the job. Working for Al Davis cannot be compared to any other job out there.

 

Al Davis is old and senile but he wasn't the only problem in Oakland. Kiffin's professionalism was questioned regardless of his public persona. In some ways Kiffin stilled acted like an immature child when he was coach of an NFL team. Just look at Kiffin trying to get himself fired near the end of his tenure. You could tell those last few weeks he was daring Al Davis to fire him. I understand that Davis is hard to work for, but you still owed it to the franchise and the league to act llike a professional.

 

It is an extremely high risk, but I wish Tennessee would have landed a more experience and better coach.

[dew1679666265]

I'm ok with this move. I wanted Mike Leach, but Kiffin is intriguing because of his upside. Apparently, he's bringing Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron (for recruiting) along with him.

 

No offense dew, but Leach would have been horrible for Tennessee. Tennessee doesn't have the talent and a yearly basis to run Leach's type offense and the rumor is Leach isn't a strong recruiter. Leach, imo, would have been run out of the SEC in less then 4 years.

 

Sure we have the talent. We've had "down years" the past four years, according to popular perception, and still pulled in two recruiting classes in the top 10 and had the seventh-best class this year before Fulmer was fired. If Leach can contend off and on at Tech and occassionally beat OU and Texas, he can win at Tennessee at a high level.

 

The only reason I think it's realistic that Monte would follow Lane is because the dad wants to see the son succeed - and what better way than having a great D-coordinator from day 1? I agree that he's the least likely piece of the coaching staff to follow, though.

 

I can understand that reasoning, but the word around the grapevine is that Monte is likely to stay with Tampa Bay. Would it surprise me if Monte does head to Tennessee with his son? No, but at this point he is more likely to stay with TB then go to Tennessee.

 

I can definitely see that. I really hope Monte comes with Lane, but it'd be alot to ask of him to leave a cushy job in the NFL.

 

And even if these reports are true that the job has been offered, you're right that an official announcement won't come until after Saturday. Monday's the earliest I think anything would come out officially.

 

Personally I think it would be stupid to wait till Monday to announce Kiffin as HC as that week should be dedicated to the UA/Fla SECCG. If I had my way Tennessee would have to wait till AFTER the SECCG before they could announce the decision. Barring that, having them announced on Saturday is prolly in the best interests of both the school and the conference.

 

I hope you're joking, because UT not being allowed to announce a hiring before a championship game they're not involved in is pretty silly. That said, I'll be surprised if a hire is not announced next week - whoever it is.

 

Definitely a big risk. I wanted Mike Leach, no doubt about that, but Kiffin is an interesting hire. He's young, so he could be a longterm solution. But he's inexperienced, so he could be more hype than substance.

 

I actually paralleled the Kiffin signing to that of Alabama signing Mike Shula. The difference: Kiffin has slightly more experience then Shula. Otherwise this will be a tough sign given the lack of success Kiffin has had as a HC and about to take a job in arguably the toughest conference in America. So this is a tremendous risk. If he doesn't work it then he set the school/football program back four years.

 

I can see the comparison, but think Kiffin is coming in a bit more prepared. Kiffin has had experience as a head coach in the NFL and learned under Pete Carroll - overrated, but still a pretty darn good coach.

 

I wouldn't hold much against him in Oakland. That was a situation where Al Davis was going to fire him, it was just a matter of when. Kiffin was in a no-win situation nearly from the time he took the job. Working for Al Davis cannot be compared to any other job out there.

Al Davis is old and senile but he wasn't the only problem in Oakland. Kiffin's professionalism was questioned regardless of his public persona. In some ways Kiffin stilled acted like an immature child when he was coach of an NFL team. Just look at Kiffin trying to get himself fired near the end of his tenure. You could tell those last few weeks he was daring Al Davis to fire him. I understand that Davis is hard to work for, but you still owed it to the franchise and the league to act llike a professional.

 

It is an extremely high risk, but I wish Tennessee would have landed a more experience and better coach.

 

A Bama fan rooting for Tennessee to hire a good coach? Interesting. :D

 

I followed that saga pretty closely when Kiffin left. Davis had already mistreated him so badly I don't blame him for wanting out - I would have too. And of course he was daring Davis to fire him, Al was threatening to for months before that. Al Davis sent him a form resignation letter for him to sign, I believe, what would you have done?

[dew1679666265]

Raisin, as a west coaster, I suspect you've seen quite a bit of Kiffin while USC was beating up on UCLA ( :wink: ). I know you think this is too big of a risk for UT, but what do you think about Kiffin in general?

 

And if soccer10k is out there, what are your feelings from Kiffin's short tenure in Oakland. I know you hate Al Davis, but how much can be laid upon Kiffin in that situation?

[Guest]

Raisin, as a west coaster, I suspect you've seen quite a bit of Kiffin while USC was beating up on UCLA ( :wink: ). I know you think this is too big of a risk for UT, but what do you think about Kiffin in general?

 

And if soccer10k is out there, what are your feelings from Kiffin's short tenure in Oakland. I know you hate Al Davis, but how much can be laid upon Kiffin in that situation?

 

I don't think he's that qualified, I wasn't very impressed of him when he was at USC (ask SpongeWorthy but I feel like a lot of USC fans haven't liked the OCs who followed Norm Chow).

 

I also think RedFlash is off in blaming Kiffin so much for the Oakland mess...I'm judging this based on what I've read from Raiders beat writers in LA and the Bay area.

[shnsajax]

If Leach can surround himself with good recruiters he will be ok, plus he has to sell Lubbock on top of playing at Tech which is a near impossible mission. Seriously Lubbock is the worst college city in all of Texas.

 

Everything he has done is without great recruiting classes which also says something. Look at a school like Texas A&M that still pulls in top 20 classes, but the end result is horrible. He is also getting 4th pickings behind UT, OU, and LSU.

 

People know Mike Leach now, and I think we will start to see better classes. I think he would do much better at Tennessee.

[RedFlash]

I also think RedFlash is off in blaming Kiffin so much for the Oakland mess...I'm judging this based on what I've read from Raiders beat writers in LA and the Bay area.

 

I'm only going by what I've heard from people. But can you deny that the last two weeks or so Kiffin was practicially daring Davis to fire him? Having Sabastian kick a 70 yard field goal, releasing DeAngelo Hall, not being including in the I believe the defensively side of the ball. I'm not saying it's all Kiffin's fault, but Lane didn't necessarily handle it the best way.

[RedFlash]

If Leach can surround himself with good recruiters he will be ok, plus he has to sell Lubbock on top of playing at Tech which is a near impossible mission. Seriously Lubbock is the worst college city in all of Texas.

 

Everything he has done is without great recruiting classes which also says something. Look at a school like Texas A&M that still pulls in top 20 classes, but the end result is horrible. He is also getting 4th pickings behind UT, OU, and LSU.

 

People know Mike Leach now, and I think we will start to see better classes. I think he would do much better at Tennessee.

 

Tennessee isn't a hodgepodge of talent every yr. In fact Tennessee has to build their teams with outside the state talent. So, if Leach had gone to Tennessee he would have to go into other SEC states to acquire talent. And it's unlikely he would acquire any elite talent from any state in the SEC. So again, I doubt Leach could survive in the SEC. I didn't say he couldn't, I said I doubt it.

[CubColtPacer]

I also think RedFlash is off in blaming Kiffin so much for the Oakland mess...I'm judging this based on what I've read from Raiders beat writers in LA and the Bay area.

 

I'm only going by what I've heard from people. But can you deny that the last two weeks or so Kiffin was practicially daring Davis to fire him? Having Sabastian kick a 70 yard field goal, releasing DeAngelo Hall, not being including in the I believe the defensively side of the ball. I'm not saying it's all Kiffin's fault, but Lane didn't necessarily handle it the best way.

 

Kiffin wasn't involved with the release of Hall. That happened a couple weeks after he was fired.

 

As for the field goal, it wasn't the best clock management to bleed it down to 1 second before half. Janikowski has kicked kicks that have been long enough to make it from even 76 though occasionally (I seem to remember him hitting the upright near the top of it from 60). It was likely a bad decision, but not one so bad to just think he was begging to get fired.

[Guest]

And given the circumstances (no one from the organization would talk to him, etc.), I don't think any of his actions were out of the ordinary.

[Hosak8]

If Leach can surround himself with good recruiters he will be ok, plus he has to sell Lubbock on top of playing at Tech which is a near impossible mission. Seriously Lubbock is the worst college city in all of Texas.

 

Everything he has done is without great recruiting classes which also says something. Look at a school like Texas A&M that still pulls in top 20 classes, but the end result is horrible. He is also getting 4th pickings behind UT, OU, and LSU.

 

People know Mike Leach now, and I think we will start to see better classes. I think he would do much better at Tennessee.

 

Tennessee isn't a hodgepodge of talent every yr. In fact Tennessee has to build their teams with outside the state talent. So, if Leach had gone to Tennessee he would have to go into other SEC states to acquire talent. And it's unlikely he would acquire any elite talent from any state in the SEC. So again, I doubt Leach could survive in the SEC. I didn't say he couldn't, I said I doubt it.

 

Pretty uninformed opinion. If Tennessee had the border locked down, they would have Patrick Turner at WR, Graig Cooper at RB, Michael Oher at LT, Mike Barry on the OL, Jeremy Jarmon and Greg Hardy on the DL, Donta Hightower in the mix at LB, Curt Phillips and Randall Cobb on the roster (albeit, both went elsewhere because UT didn't want them at QB..) and on and on and on.

 

Now, do not misunderstand me... TN is no Fla, Tex, or Cali. It's not even close. But, if you put much stock into recruiting services, TN ranks ahead of talent rich states such as Alabama, Virginia, and Pennsylvania- and right behind Ohio- in the Rivals 2010 250 to Watch list.

 

I'd say there's plenty of talent in TN. What the next coach needs to do is lock down the borders and then rely on out of state talent for teh balance of 15 players a year, instead of Fulmer's rule of taking 5 from Tennessee and supplementing the other 20 from outside.

[RedFlash]

Srre we have the talent. We've had "down years" the past four years, according to popular perception, and still pulled in two recruiting classes in the top 10 and had the seventh-best class this year before Fulmer was fired. If Leach can contend off and on at Tech and occassionally beat OU and Texas, he can win at Tennessee at a high level.

 

Last few yrs Tennessee, or should I say Phil Fulmer constantly lost some of it best talent to conference rivals. Need proof look at Alabama. One of their stud LBers, Don'ta Hightower and two other top 10 prospects in the state for 2008 ended up at Alabama. Hightower, Jordan, and Barrett Jones would have tremendously help Tenn this yr. Last yr Tennessee signed 4 of the state's Top 20 prospects. That's bad. Not to mention Tenn only has 2 of the Top 25 state prospects commited to them this yr. So yeah Tenn does have talent, they just can't keep them in state. Which will be Lane Kiffin's #1 job.

 

I hope you're joking, because UT not being allowed to announce a hiring before a championship game they're not involved in is pretty silly. That said, I'll be surprised if a hire is not announced next week - whoever it is.

 

No I am not joking. The SECCG should not split the headlines with Tennessee's HC search. So either announce it immediately after the game on Saturday, or wait till after the SECCG.

 

A Bama fan rooting for Tennessee to hire a good coach? Interesting. :D

 

First: Unlike alot of Bammers, I do not "hate" Tennessee, I "hate" Phillip Fulmer. Alabama was going to get caught with those violations, Fulmer didn't have to be a snitch. Not to mention I didn't like how he backstabbed Johnny Majors for the UT job.

 

Second: As anyone who have read my posts in the college football threads already know, I am a Alabama first, then a SEC diehard. I want the best in the conference. I don't see how Lane Kiffin is considered a "great" option. Besides I want Tennessee/Alabama game to matter, which means better coaching from Tennessee would be appreciated.

 

I followed that saga pretty closely when Kiffin left. Davis had already mistreated him so badly I don't blame him for wanting out - I would have too. And of course he was daring Davis to fire him, Al was threatening to for months before that. Al Davis sent him a form resignation letter for him to sign, I believe, what would you have done?

 

I agree with that, but Kiffin wasn't exactly "Mr. Mature" as HC of the Raiders. I don't blame him for wanting out of Oakland, but there is something to be said about conducting yourself as a professional and not get yourself into a peeing contest with your boss/owner. I know pissing off a young HC is nothing new for Davis (Shanahan), but Davis can be blame being senile as a reason, what can Kiffin blame his portion on the story on?

[Guest]

Srre we have the talent. We've had "down years" the past four years, according to popular perception, and still pulled in two recruiting classes in the top 10 and had the seventh-best class this year before Fulmer was fired. If Leach can contend off and on at Tech and occassionally beat OU and Texas, he can win at Tennessee at a high level.

 

Last few yrs Tennessee, or should I say Phil Fulmer constantly lost some of it best talent to conference rivals. Need proof look at Alabama. One of their stud LBers, Don'ta Hightower and two other top 10 prospects in the state for 2008 ended up at Alabama. Hightower, Jordan, and Barrett Jones would have tremendously help Tenn this yr. Last yr Tennessee signed 4 of the state's Top 20 prospects. That's bad. Not to mention Tenn only has 2 of the Top 25 state prospects commited to them this yr. So yeah Tenn does have talent, they just can't keep them in state. Which will be Lane Kiffin's #1 job.

 

I hope you're joking, because UT not being allowed to announce a hiring before a championship game they're not involved in is pretty silly. That said, I'll be surprised if a hire is not announced next week - whoever it is.

 

No I am not joking. The SECCG should not split the headlines with Tennessee's HC search. So either announce it immediately after the game on Saturday, or wait till after the SECCG.

 

A Bama fan rooting for Tennessee to hire a good coach? Interesting. :D

 

First: Unlike alot of Bammers, I do not "hate" Tennessee, I "hate" Phillip Fulmer. Alabama was going to get caught with those violations, Fulmer didn't have to be a snitch. Not to mention I didn't like how he backstabbed Johnny Majors for the UT job.

 

Second: As anyone who have read my posts in the college football threads already know, I am a Alabama first, then a SEC diehard. I want the best in the conference. I don't see how Lane Kiffin is considered a "great" option. Besides I want Tennessee/Alabama game to matter, which means better coaching from Tennessee would be appreciated.

 

I followed that saga pretty closely when Kiffin left. Davis had already mistreated him so badly I don't blame him for wanting out - I would have too. And of course he was daring Davis to fire him, Al was threatening to for months before that. Al Davis sent him a form resignation letter for him to sign, I believe, what would you have done?

 

I agree with that, but Kiffin wasn't exactly "Mr. Mature" as HC of the Raiders. I don't blame him for wanting out of Oakland, but there is something to be said about conducting yourself as a professional and not get yourself into a peeing contest with your boss/owner. I know pissing off a young HC is nothing new for Davis (Shanahan), but Davis can be blame being senile as a reason, what can Kiffin blame his portion on the story on?

 

Being mistreated by his employer?

[Hosak8]

Local radio and writers are reporting that Lane Kiffin has been offered the Tennessee head coaching job.

 

I'm ok with this move. I wanted Mike Leach, but Kiffin is intriguing because of his upside. Apparently, he's bringing Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron (for recruiting) along with him.

 

Okay, here is what I am hearing. Kiffin is a done deal. Monte is believed to be on his staff (this is HUGE). Orgeron is rumored to be on the staff, as well, though there are rumors that O is being considered for the expected opening at DC for LSU (as is John Chavis, who is also rumored to be in the mix at Arkansas). David Reaves (current QB coach at South Carolina and Lane's brother in law) is on the offensive staff (presumably as QB coach), and I'm hearing that maybe two current coaches (Scott and Drayton) are being retained. TIFWIW. We'll know Tuesday at the latest. The source has been dead-on accurate regarding player dismissals and coaching moves in the past, and has strong ties to Trooper Taylor, who *might* be in the mix on this staff as well.

 

What I like about this staff is that it keeps the recruiting class mostly intact. Oku will recommit, as will Giles. I think Marlon Brown signs at UT with that staff in place, and I like our chances at keeping Boyd. Defensively, you'd have to be out of your mind to not want to play for Monte Kiffin, so I think that a couple of guys who've been wavering, and have even decommitted might reconsider.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It won't be as big a deal in the SEC, but I'd be interested to see how Monte would approach the more varied college offenses.

[Hosak8]

It won't be as big a deal in the SEC, but I'd be interested to see how Monte would approach the more varied college offenses.

 

Much the same way Saban has, is my guess. Kiffin will outscheme nearly every OC in the conference. His issue won't be x's and o's.. it will be the Jimmy's and Joe's. He needs pocket collapsing DT's for his Tampa 2, and I'm not sure that Tennessee has them right now. Best DB's in the conference, by far, but not much in the front 7.

[Guest]

And given the circumstances (no one from the organization would talk to him, etc.), I don't think any of his actions were out of the ordinary.

 

Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if Kiffin was trying to get fired his last couple weeks, but that's only because he knew he was going to be fired at some point anyway, with the end of the season being the latest. Al Davis wanted Kiffin to quit so Davis wouldn't have to pay the rest of the contract but Kiffin refused to quit. That whole situation is all on Davis because he's completely crazy and I don't blame Kiffin at all for what he supposedly did. He was a lame duck coach who wasn't going to be there next year regardless of how the team performed because Davis hated him.

 

As far as his coaching ability, it's tough to tell because he only had a year and a half and he was stuck with such a pathetic offense. Last year he was stuck with Daunte Culpepper and Josh McCown as his QB's because Davis refused to pay Russell so Russell missed all of camp. The receivers have sucked for the past couple years. The O-Line is amazingly bad as well. No coach could possibly turn that group into even a decent offense.

[hawkeyecub]

Go Oregon

[dew1679666265]

Raisin, as a west coaster, I suspect you've seen quite a bit of Kiffin while USC was beating up on UCLA ( :wink: ). I know you think this is too big of a risk for UT, but what do you think about Kiffin in general?

 

And if soccer10k is out there, what are your feelings from Kiffin's short tenure in Oakland. I know you hate Al Davis, but how much can be laid upon Kiffin in that situation?

 

I don't think he's that qualified, I wasn't very impressed of him when he was at USC (ask SpongeWorthy but I feel like a lot of USC fans haven't liked the OCs who followed Norm Chow).

 

I also think RedFlash is off in blaming Kiffin so much for the Oakland mess...I'm judging this based on what I've read from Raiders beat writers in LA and the Bay area.

 

I've heard alot that he's unqualified, and considering Hamilton had Leach "very interested" in the job and Brian Kelly on the list as well, I kinda wonder why he settled on Kiffin.

 

I'm hoping, much like the Bruce Pearl pick, he knows what he's doing.

[dew1679666265]

If Leach can surround himself with good recruiters he will be ok, plus he has to sell Lubbock on top of playing at Tech which is a near impossible mission. Seriously Lubbock is the worst college city in all of Texas.

 

Everything he has done is without great recruiting classes which also says something. Look at a school like Texas A&M that still pulls in top 20 classes, but the end result is horrible. He is also getting 4th pickings behind UT, OU, and LSU.

 

People know Mike Leach now, and I think we will start to see better classes. I think he would do much better at Tennessee.

 

Pretty much my take on Leach. He's a great coach who had a built-in ceiling on his recruiting upside. The best any coach could do there is take the castoffs from Texas, OU, LSU and, to some extent, TAMU.

 

The fact that he took those castoffs and beat the big guys every once in a while, had an extremely successful offense and had such a great year this season tells me he's a heck of a great coach.

[dew1679666265]

Srre we have the talent. We've had "down years" the past four years, according to popular perception, and still pulled in two recruiting classes in the top 10 and had the seventh-best class this year before Fulmer was fired. If Leach can contend off and on at Tech and occassionally beat OU and Texas, he can win at Tennessee at a high level.

 

Last few yrs Tennessee, or should I say Phil Fulmer constantly lost some of it best talent to conference rivals. Need proof look at Alabama. One of their stud LBers, Don'ta Hightower and two other top 10 prospects in the state for 2008 ended up at Alabama. Hightower, Jordan, and Barrett Jones would have tremendously help Tenn this yr. Last yr Tennessee signed 4 of the state's Top 20 prospects. That's bad. Not to mention Tenn only has 2 of the Top 25 state prospects commited to them this yr. So yeah Tenn does have talent, they just can't keep them in state. Which will be Lane Kiffin's #1 job.

 

And even when Fulmer struggled to pull in top-end instate talent, he still managed top 5-10 recruiting classes fairly consistently.

 

It can be done at Tennessee, it's just much more difficult than a Fla, Georgia or Bama.

 

I hope you're joking, because UT not being allowed to announce a hiring before a championship game they're not involved in is pretty silly. That said, I'll be surprised if a hire is not announced next week - whoever it is.

 

No I am not joking. The SECCG should not split the headlines with Tennessee's HC search. So either announce it immediately after the game on Saturday, or wait till after the SECCG.

 

The world will not, and should not, stop turning during SEC Championship week. Tennessee was in it last year and I couldn't have cared less that Michigan was trying to pull in Les Miles from LSU.

 

Teams should do what's in their best interest, not the best interest of CBS.

 

A Bama fan rooting for Tennessee to hire a good coach? Interesting. :D

 

First: Unlike alot of Bammers, I do not "hate" Tennessee, I "hate" Phillip Fulmer. Alabama was going to get caught with those violations, Fulmer didn't have to be a snitch. Not to mention I didn't like how he backstabbed Johnny Majors for the UT job.

 

Second: As anyone who have read my posts in the college football threads already know, I am a Alabama first, then a SEC diehard. I want the best in the conference. I don't see how Lane Kiffin is considered a "great" option. Besides I want Tennessee/Alabama game to matter, which means better coaching from Tennessee would be appreciated.

 

I know, I was just messing with you.

[dew1679666265]

Local radio and writers are reporting that Lane Kiffin has been offered the Tennessee head coaching job.

 

I'm ok with this move. I wanted Mike Leach, but Kiffin is intriguing because of his upside. Apparently, he's bringing Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron (for recruiting) along with him.

 

Okay, here is what I am hearing. Kiffin is a done deal. Monte is believed to be on his staff (this is HUGE). Orgeron is rumored to be on the staff, as well, though there are rumors that O is being considered for the expected opening at DC for LSU (as is John Chavis, who is also rumored to be in the mix at Arkansas). David Reaves (current QB coach at South Carolina and Lane's brother in law) is on the offensive staff (presumably as QB coach), and I'm hearing that maybe two current coaches (Scott and Drayton) are being retained. TIFWIW. We'll know Tuesday at the latest. The source has been dead-on accurate regarding player dismissals and coaching moves in the past, and has strong ties to Trooper Taylor, who *might* be in the mix on this staff as well.

 

What I like about this staff is that it keeps the recruiting class mostly intact. Oku will recommit, as will Giles. I think Marlon Brown signs at UT with that staff in place, and I like our chances at keeping Boyd. Defensively, you'd have to be out of your mind to not want to play for Monte Kiffin, so I think that a couple of guys who've been wavering, and have even decommitted might reconsider.

 

Interesting, thanks. Any idea who the offensive coordinator is? And what role would Orgeron play? I would assume recruiting coordinator, but would he leave the NFL for that and perhaps a D-line position?

 

And keeping the recruits here is the lone positive Kiffin brings over Leach, in my opinion. Had we hired Leach, Oku would be gone, Giles would likely be gone and Boyd would be highly in doubt. That said, I keep thinking we're hiring Kiffin for the staff and recruits when we should be hiring a coach for the merits of the coach directly (which makes me go back to Leach).

[dew1679666265]

And given the circumstances (no one from the organization would talk to him, etc.), I don't think any of his actions were out of the ordinary.

 

Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if Kiffin was trying to get fired his last couple weeks, but that's only because he knew he was going to be fired at some point anyway, with the end of the season being the latest. Al Davis wanted Kiffin to quit so Davis wouldn't have to pay the rest of the contract but Kiffin refused to quit. That whole situation is all on Davis because he's completely crazy and I don't blame Kiffin at all for what he supposedly did. He was a lame duck coach who wasn't going to be there next year regardless of how the team performed because Davis hated him.

 

As far as his coaching ability, it's tough to tell because he only had a year and a half and he was stuck with such a pathetic offense. Last year he was stuck with Daunte Culpepper and Josh McCown as his QB's because Davis refused to pay Russell so Russell missed all of camp. The receivers have sucked for the past couple years. The O-Line is amazingly bad as well. No coach could possibly turn that group into even a decent offense.

 

Basically what I figured, thanks.

[OleMissCub]

If Tennessee had the border locked down, they would have Patrick Turner at WR, Graig Cooper at RB, Michael Oher at LT, Mike Barry on the OL, Jeremy Jarmon and Greg Hardy on the DL.

 

To be fair, it is kinda hard for Tennessee to get guys like Oher, Jarmon, and Hardy who are from around the Memphis area. Memphis is about an hour away from Ole Miss, so we get oodles of their talent in football and baseball.

 

What always surprises me is the fact that the state of Mississippi is able to continually field somewhat competitive teams given the number of schools draining players from an already small state population. Only Arkansas has a smaller population among SEC states and yet Mississippi has Ole Miss, Miss State, Southern Miss, and several SWAC schools that often take away good talent. Add onto that the fact that many programs from other states get Mississippi talent.

[OleMissCub]

http://www.twincities.com/ci_11075245?source=most_viewed

 

A couple of University of Iowa fans took a break from Saturday's game at the Metrodome against the University of Minnesota to have some illicit sex in a Dome restroom, police said.

 

The duo — a 38-year-old woman and a 26-year-old man from Carroll and Linden, Iowa, respectively — turned a handicapped toilet stall into their love nest about 8:30 p.m., late in the Hawkeyes' 55-0 trouncing of the Gophers.

 

A crowd of intoxicated fans gathered in the restroom to laugh and cheer the off-the-field action, until an Avalon Security guard tipped off University of Minnesota police to the ruckus.

 

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20081126/NEWS/81126006

 

A Carroll woman who was caught having sex in the men's room at an Iowa Hawkeye football game in Minneapolis last weekend says she’d had so much wine before kickoff that she doesn’t remember walking into the restroom, the man she had sex with in a stall, or when the police opened the door. What Lois Feldman, 38, will remember is the humiliation afterward.

 

“It’s ruined my life,” she said through tears today. “Not just the incident but the press.”

 

Feldman, a married mother of three, has been the target of Internet jokes and prank telephone calls today. She was fired this morning from an assisted living center, where she had been an administrator.

 

Ouch

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Local radio and writers are reporting that Lane Kiffin has been offered the Tennessee head coaching job.

 

I'm ok with this move. I wanted Mike Leach, but Kiffin is intriguing because of his upside. Apparently, he's bringing Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron (for recruiting) along with him.

 

Okay, here is what I am hearing. Kiffin is a done deal. Monte is believed to be on his staff (this is HUGE). Orgeron is rumored to be on the staff, as well, though there are rumors that O is being considered for the expected opening at DC for LSU (as is John Chavis, who is also rumored to be in the mix at Arkansas). David Reaves (current QB coach at South Carolina and Lane's brother in law) is on the offensive staff (presumably as QB coach), and I'm hearing that maybe two current coaches (Scott and Drayton) are being retained. TIFWIW. We'll know Tuesday at the latest. The source has been dead-on accurate regarding player dismissals and coaching moves in the past, and has strong ties to Trooper Taylor, who *might* be in the mix on this staff as well.

 

What I like about this staff is that it keeps the recruiting class mostly intact. Oku will recommit, as will Giles. I think Marlon Brown signs at UT with that staff in place, and I like our chances at keeping Boyd. Defensively, you'd have to be out of your mind to not want to play for Monte Kiffin, so I think that a couple of guys who've been wavering, and have even decommitted might reconsider.

 

Have you heard the rumors of Kevin Steele going to UT as well?