Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[UMFan83]

but has he ever been first to report an acquisition? ever? i'm trying to remember, and i can't recall one.

 

Seriously, why would that even matter? The grading scale between a good beat writer and a bad one has absolutely nothing to do with who can break a story first.

cause i constantly see the "bruce what do you know about this" or "bruce has hendry said this" type of posts. when in reality, there's nothing to suggest that hendry tells him anything.

 

i just dont get it.

 

If you've followed Hendry's career as a GM, you'll see that Hendry doesn't really share the kind of information most of us are looking for (offseason moves, for example) with anyone. And if he were to share some of his inner most secrets, he would probably share them with Chicago Tribune writers, since the organization is/was owned by the Tribune.

exactly my point. hence the not understanding of "bruce tell me what you know" that i see everywhere.

 

He's more of an insider than anyone else here, and the only inside source that can directly answer our questions if he so chooses, so if people want to ask him questions, and he chooses to answer them, what does it hurt?

[BigbadB]

but has he ever been first to report an acquisition? ever? i'm trying to remember, and i can't recall one.

 

Seriously, why would that even matter? The grading scale between a good beat writer and a bad one has absolutely nothing to do with who can break a story first.

cause i constantly see the "bruce what do you know about this" or "bruce has hendry said this" type of posts. when in reality, there's nothing to suggest that hendry tells him anything.

 

i just dont get it.

 

If you've followed Hendry's career as a GM, you'll see that Hendry doesn't really share the kind of information most of us are looking for (offseason moves, for example) with anyone. And if he were to share some of his inner most secrets, he would probably share them with Chicago Tribune writers, since the organization is/was owned by the Tribune.

exactly my point. hence the not understanding of "bruce tell me what you know" that i see everywhere.

 

Bruce was at the winter meetings. He basically had as much access to Cubs brass as anyone else that was there. Hence, the "Bruce, tell us what you know" posts. If you read his responses, they were as insightful or even more insightful than anything anyone else had to offer.

 

He's the best beat writer in the Chicagoland area, and arguably one of the best within an extremely large radius of the Chicago area. I don't understand why you would question him or the people who like to ask him a question. And that's ignoring the fact he's one of the few people who work for a Chicagoland newspaper that actually posts here.

[CUBZ99]

exactly my point. hence the not understanding of "bruce tell me what you know" that i see everywhere.

 

Bruce has direct access to Jim Hendry and the Cubs organization. I'm pretty sure that over his years covering the Cubs he has built up trust with Hendry, etc. and doesn't go around spreading rumors in attempt to be the first guy to break the story. Besides the fact that he is a genuinely good poster, he has dispelled many rumors in the past, and been upfront about the info he has. He doesn't sensationalize to get attention, and I have yet to see him post information that was false.

 

Many of us on this board see great value in that information, and appreciate the fact that he stops by every once and awhile to share our like for the Cubs.

[cubbinalltheway]

i dont disagree with you guys at all. i'm not trying to discredit the guy. its great to read his thoughts on a more personal setting. i just question whether he's going to tell us something that we dont already know.

[Little Slide Rooter]

This is like the ADD thread. I understand the concept of the conversation progressing, but lately, its been going every which way.

[fiver]

i just question whether he's going to tell us something that we dont already know.

 

Yes, I believe he does occassionaly "tell us something we don't already know." He's been very good about dispelling trade rumors when they are nothing more than rumors, and he's also good about providing confirmation when Hendry has indeed had discussions with X about Y.

 

As mentioned, he's not a sensationalist. He's trusted.

[cubbinalltheway]

fair enough. i haven't seen it yet, that's why i brought it up.

[Electron Blue]

You know who could clear all this up for us? Our knowledgeable insider, BRUCE MILES!

 

someone, light up the Bruce signal! ;)

[cubswin2009]

You know who could clear all this up for us? Our knowledgeable insider, BRUCE MILES!

 

someone, light up the Bruce signal! ;)

Anyone see him on Comcast yesterday morning?

[A New Era]

You know who could clear all this up for us? Our knowledgeable insider, BRUCE MILES!

 

someone, light up the Bruce signal! ;)

Anyone see him on Comcast yesterday morning?

 

No, I'm sorry to say I didn't see the handsome and distiguished Gentleman, Bruce Miles, on Comcast yesterday morning.

[JGalt73]

Nickie (chicago): Do the Cubs have enough for a Peavy trade? if so, who would the padres want?

 

SportsNation Jim Callis: It would probably be some combination of Josh Vitters, Kevin Hart, Garrett Olson and Ronnie Cedeno.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Nickie (chicago): Do the Cubs have enough for a Peavy trade? if so, who would the padres want?

 

SportsNation Jim Callis: It would probably be some combination of Josh Vitters, Kevin Hart, Garrett Olson and Ronnie Cedeno.

 

Id do it. I know people want to hang on to Vitters, but the fact is that this team is inwin now mode, and Vitters doesnt fit in with that philosophy. We dont know what he will be down the road, but we know what Peavy is now, and we want it. Id be glad to accept Josh Vitters as a superstar for someone else 5 years down the road if it got us a championship now.

[erik316wttn]

Nickie (chicago): Do the Cubs have enough for a Peavy trade? if so, who would the padres want?

 

SportsNation Jim Callis: It would probably be some combination of Josh Vitters, Kevin Hart, Garrett Olson and Ronnie Cedeno.

 

Sold!

[Post Count Padder]

Nickie (chicago): Do the Cubs have enough for a Peavy trade? if so, who would the padres want?

 

SportsNation Jim Callis: It would probably be some combination of Josh Vitters, Kevin Hart, Garrett Olson and Ronnie Cedeno.

If that's all it takes, I'd do it yesterday. Losing Vitters sucks, but it's basically a given he'd have to go in a Peavy trade.

[Schwarber Fan]

Ronnie?

 

Who's Ronnie?

[mdwilla]

ESPN 1000 is reporting a winner will be announced today in the Cubs sale process. What is the time frame on winner being announced to Hendry speed dialing new owner about Peavy contactc?

[mdwilla]

Alderson can say with 95% finality that Peavy will start the season with the Padres. By the end of next week he'll be able to say for certain. He doesn't want to make a guarantee because something crazy might happen. The decision will definitely be made by February 1.

Alderson says it is possible that player prices may drop and the Padres may decide to pick them up. "We're pretty close to being where we are going to be". The Padres need to remain flexible.

There is no hard payroll number. "We don't have to be at $40 million." The only way to significantly affect the payroll would be to trade Peavy or Giles. Alderson sees both of those players starting the season with them. If the Padres play well the payroll issue becomes moot.

 

http://www.gaslampball.com/2009/1/21/730239/alderson-95-chance-peavy-s

[KingCubsFan]

Alderson can say with 95% finality that Peavy will start the season with the Padres. By the end of next week he'll be able to say for certain. He doesn't want to make a guarantee because something crazy might happen. The decision will definitely be made by February 1.

Alderson says it is possible that player prices may drop and the Padres may decide to pick them up. "We're pretty close to being where we are going to be". The Padres need to remain flexible.

There is no hard payroll number. "We don't have to be at $40 million." The only way to significantly affect the payroll would be to trade Peavy or Giles. Alderson sees both of those players starting the season with them. If the Padres play well the payroll issue becomes moot.

 

http://www.gaslampball.com/2009/1/21/730239/alderson-95-chance-peavy-s

My guess is that 5% is the Cubs sale. Don't know about the third group, but I bet Ricketts or Utay would give the go ahead

[shnsajax]

ESPN 1000 is reporting a winner will be announced today in the Cubs sale process. What is the time frame on winner being announced to Hendry speed dialing new owner about Peavy contactc?

 

Can Hendry have contact with a new owner even if he has not been approved by MLB.

[jersey cubs fan]

ESPN 1000 is reporting a winner will be announced today in the Cubs sale process. What is the time frame on winner being announced to Hendry speed dialing new owner about Peavy contactc?

 

Can Hendry have contact with a new owner even if he has not been approved by MLB.

 

I don't see why not.

[Banedon]

It's not exactly stepping out on a limb, but I'd wager this trade happens during the season, rather than before it.

[C.C.]

So is the Ricketts still in the lead?

[Sever82]

11:41 [Comment From Mike]

Do the padres still need to shed payroll? Is it possible that the padres have a deal done with the cubs but can't be finanlized because of the ownership situation with the cubs and peavy's salary? I just find it odd the cubs would trade away all those players and only get pitching in return which is what the padres want. Not to mention they got olsen which is someone the padres wanted.

 

11:43 Bill Center: I don't think there is a deal finalized with the Cubs, but I believe there is still interest on both sides. I do believe the Padres still have to shed salary to meet their target. Right now, they would have to pay below the major league minimum of $400,000 to the remaining unsigned players to hit their target -- and that can't happen.

 

11:11 [Comment From Mike]

Hi Bill, do you still see the padres shopping Peavy? Is there anyword of whether peavy is mad about the treament he received? The Cubs seemed to be making moves that smell like a trade is in the works but that ownership situation needs to be resolved first.

 

11:12 Bill Center: I think Peavy can be had by any team willing to meet the Padres price and get Peavy's approval for a trade. And given the Padres situation, I suspect Peavy would listen to opportunities beyond the club's on his original okay list. I don't think the Peavy question is over.

 

 

11:13 [Comment From Matt]

Do you think the Padres and Cubs will revisit the trade talks for Peavy? I would imagine that if it happens, it has to happen pretty soon. Doesn't something have to give given the 40 mil budget?

 

11:14 Bill Center: We don't know if they're not talking now. The way the last round ended, I don't think either side was happy to have it aired in the public the way it was. Certainly the Cubs have opened up some salary space on their roster and have acquired at least one more pitcher the Padres like

 

 

NOthing too special this is Bill Center from the SanDiego Union Tribune today on a chat

[Blue W]

Alderson can say with 95% finality that Peavy will start the season with the Padres. By the end of next week he'll be able to say for certain. He doesn't want to make a guarantee because something crazy might happen. The decision will definitely be made by February 1.

Alderson says it is possible that player prices may drop and the Padres may decide to pick them up. "We're pretty close to being where we are going to be". The Padres need to remain flexible.

There is no hard payroll number. "We don't have to be at $40 million." The only way to significantly affect the payroll would be to trade Peavy or Giles. Alderson sees both of those players starting the season with them. If the Padres play well the payroll issue becomes moot.

 

http://www.gaslampball.com/2009/1/21/730239/alderson-95-chance-peavy-s

My guess is that 5% is the Cubs sale. Don't know about the third group, but I bet Ricketts or Utay would give the go ahead

 

I imagine I'm reading too much into it, but it seems like the closer the Cubs get to finalizing a sale, the more sure the Padres are that they aren't going to trade Peavy. Could this just be posturing for leverage? I'm willing to believe it.

[doschi]

I know I'm a n00b here, but here's something I found from someone I've come to respect greatly as a long-time lurker. I hope this doesn't break any protocol I'm not aware of by posting this in his stead:

 

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1292

 

So does this mean the Cubs get Peavy?

 

Posted by Bruce on Thu, 01/22/2009 - 21:36

 

It looks now like the Ricketts family has won, at least at this early stage, the bidding to buy the Cubs from the Tribune Co. Neither my pal Crane Kenney, the Cubs’ chairman, nor a Tribco guy, has returned my messages tonight. The Ricketts family, if we may presume they are the winners, must clear a few hurdles before being given the keys to Wrigley Field.

 

The family must reach agreement with the Trib, which has filed for bankruptcy protection. The creditors’ committee also must give its approval. The final hurdle is Major League Baseball. My old pal Crane said last weekend that Commish Bud Selig is very familiar with all three finalists in the bidding and that the process can be expedited through MLB. Crane said he hoped the new owners could be in place by Opening Day.

 

The Ricketts bid is reported to be around $900 million. When the dust finally settles, Cubs fans will want to know if this means GM Jim Hendry can finally move ahead in his efforts to obtain pitcher Jake Peavy from the Padres. The new owners may want to make a splash, and if they give Hendry the OK, he’ll no doubt move forward on trying to revive the talks, which “died” at the winter meetings.

 

Some in the Cubs’ front office seem to like the idea of the Ricketts family owning the Cubs, so things may bode well for the Peavy pursuit.

 

We’ll talk later about the Trib’s history of owning the Cubs, which began with “Building a New Tradition” for the 1982 season.